I don't keep track of individual posters as much as some of y'all - did we already know Tesla lacked a moral compass?

FrioAg 00 said:

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I don't keep track of individual posters as much as some of y'all - did we already know Tesla lacked a moral compass?

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Yes, but he's making it more widely known that ethics are optional for them. This is exactly why we can't have nice things.

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Earning is serving under the terms of your agreed upon contract and then getting the benefits in return as spelled out in that contract. I used my post 9/11 gi bill for grad school. Then the army said "here have another $40k for loans".


So I took out loans and used it.

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You should tout this financial and legal acumen whenver you apply for a job. It is very good information for a potential employer to have.

I work for the Corps of Engineers. I'll have a job for life.

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Earning is serving under the terms of your agreed upon contract and then getting the benefits in return as spelled out in that contract. I used my post 9/11 gi bill for grad school. Then the army said "here have another $40k for loans".


So I took out loans and used it.

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You don't understand what service means. I'm at 13 years in, and of those I've been away from family whether at training or overseas for 25 months. The military has some amazing benefits as it is, and we do earn them, but there is no reason to commit a crime to get yourself a free 40k. Wrong is wrong and you should know that.

The language in the contract assumes a good faith effort on your part. In no way were those enlistment contracts written to be a 40k down payment on a truck.

In many ways this is the issue right here, people think loans are free money. The idea of paying them back doesn't really seem to click with them.

Perhaps we need a return of debtors prison in order to remind folks that there are real consequences for not being responsible. Even this whole "declare" bankruptcy thing has become an escape valve for irresponsible people.

Would rather .gov give Teslag $40k than send another crate of artillery shells to Ukraine.

Teslag said:

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I work for the Corps of Engineers. I'll have a job for life.

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A governmental agency, then.

Good fit!

AggieEP said:

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Teslag said:

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Earning is serving under the terms of your agreed upon contract and then getting the benefits in return as spelled out in that contract. I used my post 9/11 gi bill for grad school. Then the army said "here have another $40k for loans".


So I took out loans and used it.

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You don't understand what service means. I'm at 13 years in, and of those I've been away from family whether at training or overseas for 25 months. The military has some amazing benefits as it is, and we do earn them, but there is no reason to commit a crime to get yourself a free 40k. Wrong is wrong and you should know that.

The language in the contract assumes a good faith effort on your part. In no way were those enlistment contracts written to be a 40k down payment on a truck.

In many ways this is the issue right here, people think loans are free money. The idea of paying them back doesn't really seem to click with them.

Perhaps we need a return of debtors prison in order to remind folks that there are real consequences for not being responsible. Even this whole "declare" bankruptcy thing has become an escape valve for irresponsible people.

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I was once a duty appointed retention NCO. Crime? GTFO. The language in the contract assumes nothing. It's brief and clear regarding SLRP.

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Teslag said:

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I work for the Corps of Engineers. I'll have a job for life.

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A governmental agency, then.

Good fit!

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Person who commits fraud working for the FedGov....I'm shocked

What you did was a crime. According to your own account, you took out loans for education under false pretenses in order to take on phony debt that the government would then pay back via a clause in your contract. Then you used those fraudulently acquired funds to buy a truck.

Is it a crime that will put you in jail, likely not, but I've had to give my own troops Article 15s for misusing their GTCs before on amounts less than $500.00. What you've done here is at a minimum article 15 territory, and perhaps rising to administrative discharge based on your callous disregard for the moral questions surrounding your use of the fraudulently acquired loan monies.

Completely laughable. Crimes involve real laws. There is an SLRP addendum that outlines the procedures and qualifications. It's black and white. There are no criteria for the loans. None. And I'm not the only one that's done it. Many do if they have full GI Bill, hazel wood, or a parent paying. Take the loans, even if they don't need them, and the army pays back per contract.

Sorry it wasn't in your contract. And stay in your lane because you obviously know jack **** about retention contracts.

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Teslag said:

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Earning is serving under the terms of your agreed upon contract and then getting the benefits in return as spelled out in that contract. I used my post 9/11 gi bill for grad school. Then the army said "here have another $40k for loans".


So I took out loans and used it.

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You don't understand what service means. I'm at 13 years in, and of those I've been away from family whether at training or overseas for 25 months. The military has some amazing benefits as it is, and we do earn them, but there is no reason to commit a crime to get yourself a free 40k. Wrong is wrong and you should know that.

The language in the contract assumes a good faith effort on your part. In no way were those enlistment contracts written to be a 40k down payment on a truck.

In many ways this is the issue right here, people think loans are free money. The idea of paying them back doesn't really seem to click with them.

Perhaps we need a return of debtors prison in order to remind folks that there are real consequences for not being responsible. Even this whole "declare" bankruptcy thing has become an escape valve for irresponsible people.

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I was once a duty appointed retention NCO. Crime? GTFO. The language in the contract assumes nothing. It's brief and clear regarding SLRP.

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You don't think that the College Student Loan Repayment Program that the army has, assumes that the army is repaying loans taken out by college students? It's.... ummm the name of the program. I think it's safe to assume that the Army thinks you used those funds to pay for college.

I know you are trolling, but even as a troll, your words are a disservice to all of us in uniform that proudly serve, and do try to properly manage and use government funds.

I'm off this thread now, but you need to do some serious soul searching if this story is true. You are a net negative for our armed services, a leech taking what you feel is yours with no regard for honor and integrity. A dishonor to the uniform and to those who sacrifice every day to compensate for your worthless and trivial contributions.

The SLRP is defined by the contract. What you think is irrelav2oent. And at the time took it out i was an enrolled student.

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I work for the Corps of Engineers. I'll have a job for life.

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Pride comes before the fall.

You aren't nearly as impressive as you think you are.

Yeah I'm out on this thread too. Good grief you make me more embarrassed than seeing a fatty in uniform.

Nope, but I'm $40k richer

Teslag said:

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Nope, but I'm $40k richer

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Because $40k is enough to justify being an unethical delta bravo?

Sounds pretty cheap to me. Maybe you should have stolen more.

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Yeah I'm out on this thread too. Good grief you make me more embarrassed than seeing a fatty in uniform.

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You can say whatever you want and I don't care. The army will run right over you and your family without thinking twice. I take whatever flesh I'm owed. And I share what I do with those I serve with and help them do the same. I never break regulation and always do what I'm asked. But if the army holds me to BS regs, I'll do the same in return.

This business of taking out $750k in loans for education setting you up for a very nice life and income and declaring bankruptcy to get out of it, this doesn't bother you at all ?

It's not as if you won't have the means to repay.

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Ezra Brooks said:

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My car note represents about the same headwind on my budget - but I don't see anyone wanting to forgive me on that payment.

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Give it time

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Imagine what the price of a vehicle would jump to.

They are already stupid expensive now, but a fuggin base model Corolla would be $100k if this happened.

Teslag said:

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Nope, but I'm $40k richer

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Yeah I'm out on this thread too. Good grief you make me more embarrassed than seeing a fatty in uniform.

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You can say whatever you want and I don't care. The army will run right over you and your family without thinking twice. I take whatever flesh I'm owed. And I share what I do with those I serve with and help them do the same. I never break regulation and always do what I'm asked. But if the army holds me to BS regs, I'll do the same in return.

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You should be a comedian, you'd make more.

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Yeah I'm out on this thread too. Good grief you make me more embarrassed than seeing a fatty in uniform.

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You can say whatever you want and I don't care. The army will run right over you and your family without thinking twice. I take whatever flesh I'm owed. And I share what I do with those I serve with and help them do the same. I never break regulation and always do what I'm asked. But if the army holds me to BS regs, I'll do the same in return.

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All of those people in know I mentioned earlier in this thread that think like you also have one other common trait; a sense of entitlement to justify wrongdoing. Not surprised I am seeing it in some of these statements as well.

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This business of taking out $750k in loans for education setting you up for a very nice life and income and declaring bankruptcy to get out of it, this doesn't bother you at all ?

It's not as if you won't have the means to repay.

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I am fine with his scenario as long as we take away the government backing for the loans. That puts the lender in position to lose $750k if they are dumb enough to lend it, and will make them a very interested party in contesting the bankruptcy. You don't just get to go to the court and claim bankruptcy and poof the loans are gone. You have to prove that you are in no position to pay off the loans and have no ability to get them restructured so that you can. I am willing to bet that a court is going to take a dim view of somebody making $300k per year claiming they can't pay off their loan, especially when the lender agrees to give them an extra 10 years to do it (with interest of course).

I didn't think I could dislike electric vehicles more

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Teslag said:

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Yeah I'm out on this thread too. Good grief you make me more embarrassed than seeing a fatty in uniform.

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You can say whatever you want and I don't care. The army will run right over you and your family without thinking twice. I take whatever flesh I'm owed. And I share what I do with those I serve with and help them do the same. I never break regulation and always do what I'm asked. But if the army holds me to BS regs, I'll do the same in return.

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All of those people in know I mentioned earlier in this thread that think like you also have one other common trait; a sense of entitlement to justify wrongdoing. Not surprised I am seeing it in some of these statements as well.

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It's an entitlement if it's part of an employee contract

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Yeah I'm out on this thread too. Good grief you make me more embarrassed than seeing a fatty in uniform.

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You can say whatever you want and I don't care. The army will run right over you and your family without thinking twice. I take whatever flesh I'm owed. And I share what I do with those I serve with and help them do the same. I never break regulation and always do what I'm asked. But if the army holds me to BS regs, I'll do the same in return.

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All of those people in know I mentioned earlier in this thread that think like you also have one other common trait; a sense of entitlement to justify wrongdoing. Not surprised I am seeing it in some of these statements as well.

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It's an entitlement if it's part of an employee contract

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Dude, just take the L and move on. You were proud to announce how you took $40k worth of taxpayer money that was intended to help with education and spent it to buy a truck. Nobody here thinks you are clever and witty for doing it and nobody admires you for pulling one over on uncle sam with our money. What you did may not have been illegal, but it is sleazy and unethical and we all think worse of you for it. No need to keep trumpeting how sleazy and unethical you are. We get it. You have no moral compass and think you did nothing wrong. You aren't convincing anybody of anything else at this point.

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Yeah I'm out on this thread too. Good grief you make me more embarrassed than seeing a fatty in uniform.

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You can say whatever you want and I don't care. The army will run right over you and your family without thinking twice. I take whatever flesh I'm owed. And I share what I do with those I serve with and help them do the same. I never break regulation and always do what I'm asked. But if the army holds me to BS regs, I'll do the same in return.

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All of those people in know I mentioned earlier in this thread that think like you also have one other common trait; a sense of entitlement to justify wrongdoing. Not surprised I am seeing it in some of these statements as well.

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It's an entitlement if it's part of an employee contract

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Dude, just take the L and move on. You were proud to announce how you took $40k worth of taxpayer money that was intended to help with education and spent it to buy a truck. Nobody here thinks you are clever and witty for doing it and nobody admires you for pulling one over on uncle sam with our money. What you did may not have been illegal, but it is sleazy and unethical and we all think worse of you for it. No need to keep trumpeting how sleazy and unethical you are. We get it. You have no moral compass and think you did nothing wrong. You aren't convincing anybody of anything else at this point.

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His hypocrisy knows no bounds. It's the same guy that gleefully reported subordinates for not taking the jab.

After today, he's going to need a new sock. What little credibility he may have had is shot to pieces.

Teslag said:

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Nope, but I'm $40k richer

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Not really. You invested in a depreciating asset

But good for you dawg

FrioAg 00 said:

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I don't keep track of individual posters as much as some of y'all - did we already know Tesla lacked a moral compass?

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He'd put a bullet in the back of a dog's head if he had to waste some money on getting a minor procedure done.

Teslag said:

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Nope, but I'm $40k richer

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"Why Richard, it profit a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world... but for Wales a truck!"

I agree with you totally with regard to private loans vs public. My question was more about how he feels about the ethics of planning and executing a plan like that.

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My car note represents about the same headwind on my budget - but I don't see anyone wanting to forgive me on that payment.

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And when you can't pay it, it can be discharged in a bankruptcy as well. Make student loans the same as every other investment related loan, and the comparison is valid.

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Can a car note be discharged in bankruptcy? I thought they would repo it as soon as you are behind two or three payments.

FrioAg 00 said:

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I don't keep track of individual posters as much as some of y'all - did we already know Tesla lacked a moral compass?

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He (she? He might share an account with his wife, I don't remember) enjoys trolling/posting awful stuff for shock value from time to time. He described a hookup with a German hooker while married, said that targeting was ruining college football not because it's nebulous and unequally applied but because the real fun of watching football is seeing people suffer major injuries, advocated for forced vaccines and vaccine snitching during covid... so this is par for the course. I'd just ignore him/her/them (maybe it's their foreplay?) when he's on one of these kicks.

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Teslag said:

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Nope, but I'm $40k richer

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Not really. You invested in a depreciating asset

But good for you dawg

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Except I was buying it anyway. Except this way the army did.