That town/beach typically doesn't attract the urban thug types. It's way too far. Huntington Beach would be much closer, and still always feels safe when I go there.GAC06 said:captkirk said:
San Clemente is not generally a hotbed of thug activity. This is strange
At the beach, I'm assuming the "youths" are from elsewhere. Definitely surprising compared to when I lived there.
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Take the two best UFC fighters of all time. They would be no match for 40-50 HS aged males. It's silly to poke fun of these Marines for being on the ground covering their vitals.Durkin Nowitzki said:
Marines aren't always elite fighters. FYI. They can be outnumbered
That being said, i would have liked to hear the exchange that built up to this. Not that it excuses any violence whatsoever. But wonder if any harsh words were exchanged?
Yeah, I would have liked for that to happen, or for the Marines to break a couple of necks right off the bat.Scotty Appleton said:CDUB98 said:Fair point.usmcbrooks said:Surrounded...never outnumbered.CDUB98 said:At some point, even Marines are outnumbered.CanyonLakeAgbu said:
Marines in the fetal position is not a good look.
50 teenagers, but if each Marine had grabbed even 1 and slammed his head in the pavement until it exploded most of the others would have lost their nerve real quick and in San Clemente the Marines would have been no billed.
BG Knocc Out said:That town/beach typically doesn't attract the urban thug types. It's way too far. Huntington Beach would be much closer, and still always feels safe when I go there.GAC06 said:captkirk said:
San Clemente is not generally a hotbed of thug activity. This is strange
At the beach, I'm assuming the "youths" are from elsewhere. Definitely surprising compared to when I lived there.
Agreed. San Clemente always seemed more like where the middle class lived in the south OC.
aggiehawg said:"We're Airborne. We are always surrounded."-Dick Winters Band of BrothersTRD-Ferguson said:
"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us…they can't get away this time." - Chesty Puller
Wrong branch, ma'am
That was the line though. Just watched the entire series yesterday.
aggiehawg said:
That was the line though. Just watched the entire series yesterday.
Oh, it's amazing. Love watching that. Watch The Pacific next, about the Marines fighting Japan in WWII
Same producers (Hanks & Spielberg)
BG Knocc Out said:Take the two best UFC fighters of all time. They would be no match for 40-50 HS aged males. It's silly to poke fun of these Marines for being on the ground covering their vitals.Durkin Nowitzki said:
Marines aren't always elite fighters. FYI. They can be outnumbered
That being said, i would have liked to hear the exchange that built up to this. Not that it excuses any violence whatsoever. But wonder if any harsh words were exchanged?
Some of the attackers were shooting bottle rockets and fireworks off on the beach (illegal in CA, I should note).
One hit one of the marines in the face. He called them out.
Then the Marines left the beach and went onto the pier, where they were followed by the group and attacked.
Bob Lee said:
Who knows what happened before though? You could run a story probably weekly about a Marine who got his butt whipped in a fight at a bar in Oceanside because he can't handle his alcohol and didn't know when to shut his mouth. Usually it's by another Marine and so it's a non event. I don't know if that's what happened here, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were more confrontational than their portrayal of events.
Change it to two young black men and 50 white teenagers. Would it be the black guys' fault for mouthing off?
CanyonAg77 said:Bob Lee said:
Who knows what happened before though? You could run a story probably weekly about a Marine who got his butt whipped in a fight at a bar in Oceanside because he can't handle his alcohol and didn't know when to shut his mouth. Usually it's by another Marine and so it's a non event. I don't know if that's what happened here, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were more confrontational than their portrayal of events.
Change it to two young black men and 50 white teenagers. Would it be the black guys' fault for mouthing off?
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and solve the puzzle, Pat. Is it 'Feral American youth behavior'?
Love Gun said:aggiehawg said:"We're Airborne. We are always surrounded."-Dick Winters Band of BrothersTRD-Ferguson said:
"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us…they can't get away this time." - Chesty Puller
Wrong branch, ma'am
Dirty leg
And never call a female Marine a WAM. Wave, WAC, okay. WAM? Nope.CanyonAg77 said:Bob Lee said:
Who knows what happened before though? You could run a story probably weekly about a Marine who got his butt whipped in a fight at a bar in Oceanside because he can't handle his alcohol and didn't know when to shut his mouth. Usually it's by another Marine and so it's a non event. I don't know if that's what happened here, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were more confrontational than their portrayal of events.
Change it to two young black men and 50 white teenagers. Would it be the black guys' fault for mouthing off?
aggiehawg said:And never call a female Marine a WAM. Wave, WAC, okay. WAM? Nope.CanyonAg77 said:Bob Lee said:
Who knows what happened before though? You could run a story probably weekly about a Marine who got his butt whipped in a fight at a bar in Oceanside because he can't handle his alcohol and didn't know when to shut his mouth. Usually it's by another Marine and so it's a non event. I don't know if that's what happened here, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were more confrontational than their portrayal of events.
Change it to two young black men and 50 white teenagers. Would it be the black guys' fault for mouthing off?
When I joined in 1996, they were called WM's, as in Woman Marine. A few years after that, that went away and they were called Female Marines, but no FM acronym. After that, we just call them Marines. Why the adjective?
Of course, I've heard several slang, derogatory terms for them that some of them most definitely earned, in my opinion, but I digress. Same goes for male Marines, but we werent labeled with a nickname
TxTarpon said:
The more things change....the more they stay the same.
Zoot Suit Riots....throw back a bottle of beer....
I was just about to post about the zoot suit riots. California has always had teenage ghetto punks in need of ass whippings.
CanyonAg77 said:Bob Lee said:
Who knows what happened before though? You could run a story probably weekly about a Marine who got his butt whipped in a fight at a bar in Oceanside because he can't handle his alcohol and didn't know when to shut his mouth. Usually it's by another Marine and so it's a non event. I don't know if that's what happened here, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were more confrontational than their portrayal of events.
Change it to two young black men and 50 white teenagers. Would it be the black guys' fault for mouthing off?
Maybe? I'm just saying that when I hear 2 Marines got beat up and I'm just guessing alcohol was involved, my first instinct is not to jump to conclusions. I've had enough beers with Marines (and Sailors) that I don't have to stretch my imagination to see how it could have been provoked.
Exactly. I had an infantryman in my company in the Army that tried to take on a bunch of MPs coming through the Camp Casey gate guard shack piss drunk in Korea. He threw hands and went from E-5 to fuzzy pretty quick.
Color me shocked that every military man or women isn't a patron saint
Color me shocked that every military man or women isn't a patron saint
Ol' Dame here. WAM stood for "Wide Azz Marine," back in the day.Love Gun said:aggiehawg said:And never call a female Marine a WAM. Wave, WAC, okay. WAM? Nope.CanyonAg77 said:Bob Lee said:
Who knows what happened before though? You could run a story probably weekly about a Marine who got his butt whipped in a fight at a bar in Oceanside because he can't handle his alcohol and didn't know when to shut his mouth. Usually it's by another Marine and so it's a non event. I don't know if that's what happened here, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were more confrontational than their portrayal of events.
Change it to two young black men and 50 white teenagers. Would it be the black guys' fault for mouthing off?
When I joined in 1996, they were called WM's, as in Woman Marine. A few years after that, that went away and they were called Female Marines, but no FM acronym. After that, we just call them Marines. Why the adjective?
Of course, I've heard several slang, derogatory terms for them that some of them most definitely earned, in my opinion, but I digress. Same goes for male Marines, but we werent labeled with a nickname
aggiehawg said:Ol' Dame here. WAM stood for "Wide Azz Marine," back in the day.Love Gun said:aggiehawg said:And never call a female Marine a WAM. Wave, WAC, okay. WAM? Nope.CanyonAg77 said:Bob Lee said:
Who knows what happened before though? You could run a story probably weekly about a Marine who got his butt whipped in a fight at a bar in Oceanside because he can't handle his alcohol and didn't know when to shut his mouth. Usually it's by another Marine and so it's a non event. I don't know if that's what happened here, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were more confrontational than their portrayal of events.
Change it to two young black men and 50 white teenagers. Would it be the black guys' fault for mouthing off?
When I joined in 1996, they were called WM's, as in Woman Marine. A few years after that, that went away and they were called Female Marines, but no FM acronym. After that, we just call them Marines. Why the adjective?
Of course, I've heard several slang, derogatory terms for them that some of them most definitely earned, in my opinion, but I digress. Same goes for male Marines, but we werent labeled with a nickname
Lol. I have never heard this.
aggiehawg said:Ol' Dame here. WAM stood for "Wide Azz Marine," back in the day.Love Gun said:aggiehawg said:And never call a female Marine a WAM. Wave, WAC, okay. WAM? Nope.CanyonAg77 said:Bob Lee said:
Who knows what happened before though? You could run a story probably weekly about a Marine who got his butt whipped in a fight at a bar in Oceanside because he can't handle his alcohol and didn't know when to shut his mouth. Usually it's by another Marine and so it's a non event. I don't know if that's what happened here, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were more confrontational than their portrayal of events.
Change it to two young black men and 50 white teenagers. Would it be the black guys' fault for mouthing off?
When I joined in 1996, they were called WM's, as in Woman Marine. A few years after that, that went away and they were called Female Marines, but no FM acronym. After that, we just call them Marines. Why the adjective?
Of course, I've heard several slang, derogatory terms for them that some of them most definitely earned, in my opinion, but I digress. Same goes for male Marines, but we werent labeled with a nickname
That's a new one (for me). When I got out, the unofficial term the younger Marines had was "Wook", as in Wookie.
Middle class who can afford a super basic $1.5MM, 1,600 SF houseLove Gun said:BG Knocc Out said:That town/beach typically doesn't attract the urban thug types. It's way too far. Huntington Beach would be much closer, and still always feels safe when I go there.GAC06 said:captkirk said:
San Clemente is not generally a hotbed of thug activity. This is strange
At the beach, I'm assuming the "youths" are from elsewhere. Definitely surprising compared to when I lived there.
Agreed. San Clemente always seemed more like where the middle class lived in the south OC.
Yep, I heard the story. I am sure that's basically what happened. I just wonder how heated it really got building up to that. Nothing excuses it, but it's hard to believe a group of ordinary socal teens jumped a couple Marines without some sh** talking going back and forth.FTAG 2000 said:BG Knocc Out said:Take the two best UFC fighters of all time. They would be no match for 40-50 HS aged males. It's silly to poke fun of these Marines for being on the ground covering their vitals.Durkin Nowitzki said:
Marines aren't always elite fighters. FYI. They can be outnumbered
That being said, i would have liked to hear the exchange that built up to this. Not that it excuses any violence whatsoever. But wonder if any harsh words were exchanged?
Some of the attackers were shooting bottle rockets and fireworks off on the beach (illegal in CA, I should note).
One hit one of the marines in the face. He called them out.
Then the Marines left the beach and went onto the pier, where they were followed by the group and attacked.
aggiehawg said:Ol' Dame here. WAM stood for "Wide Azz Marine," back in the day.Love Gun said:aggiehawg said:And never call a female Marine a WAM. Wave, WAC, okay. WAM? Nope.CanyonAg77 said:Bob Lee said:
Who knows what happened before though? You could run a story probably weekly about a Marine who got his butt whipped in a fight at a bar in Oceanside because he can't handle his alcohol and didn't know when to shut his mouth. Usually it's by another Marine and so it's a non event. I don't know if that's what happened here, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were more confrontational than their portrayal of events.
Change it to two young black men and 50 white teenagers. Would it be the black guys' fault for mouthing off?
When I joined in 1996, they were called WM's, as in Woman Marine. A few years after that, that went away and they were called Female Marines, but no FM acronym. After that, we just call them Marines. Why the adjective?
Of course, I've heard several slang, derogatory terms for them that some of them most definitely earned, in my opinion, but I digress. Same goes for male Marines, but we werent labeled with a nickname
Wooks
BG Knocc Out said:Middle class who can afford a super basic $1.5MM, 1,600 SF houseLove Gun said:BG Knocc Out said:That town/beach typically doesn't attract the urban thug types. It's way too far. Huntington Beach would be much closer, and still always feels safe when I go there.GAC06 said:captkirk said:
San Clemente is not generally a hotbed of thug activity. This is strange
At the beach, I'm assuming the "youths" are from elsewhere. Definitely surprising compared to when I lived there.
Agreed. San Clemente always seemed more like where the middle class lived in the south OC.
That's a middle class house anywhere else in the world! I can't believe those prices.
I'm ready for a round 2 and the appearance of the unlubed dildo of consequences to be unleashed.
Are these the decedents of those that stormed Iwo Jima... One needs to wonder...CanyonLakeAgbu said:
Marines in the fetal position is not a good look.
doubledog said:Are these the decedents of those that stormed Iwo Jima... One needs to wonder...CanyonLakeAgbu said:
Marines in the fetal position is not a good look.
No doubt men were a different breed in 1945 than they are now. However, no three Marines ever in history can fight off 40+ youts while they're back up against a pier.
They jump in the water, though, their odds change tremendously - especially against those that try to follow
CanyonAg77 said:Bob Lee said:
Who knows what happened before though? You could run a story probably weekly about a Marine who got his butt whipped in a fight at a bar in Oceanside because he can't handle his alcohol and didn't know when to shut his mouth. Usually it's by another Marine and so it's a non event. I don't know if that's what happened here, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were more confrontational than their portrayal of events.
Change it to two young black men and 50 white teenagers. Would it be the black guys' fault for mouthing off?
Race doesn't seem to have been an issue at all here. Multiple races on both sides. Not sure why some insist on trying to make it one, except for those using the same racial lens people complain about others using.
Love Gun said:doubledog said:Are these the decedents of those that stormed Iwo Jima... One needs to wonder...CanyonLakeAgbu said:
Marines in the fetal position is not a good look.
No doubt men were a different breed in 1945 than they are now. However, no three Marines ever in history can fight off 40+ youts while they're back up against a pier.
They jump in the water, though, their odds change tremendously - especially against those that try to follow
This. I don't doubt the toughness of the Marines, but they were completely outflanked, outmaneuvered and backed into a difficult position by (checks notes)…youts. That seems embarrassing. I get that the defensive position once you have been beaten is to minimize damage, but this incident seems more like Simple Fi.
It's Marines, Marines is always capitalized.
Not trying to make it about race. Just using an extreme example to point out how absurd it was to blame the victims in a 25 to 1 beating
Cromagnum said:
Shouldn't be hard to pull cell phone data from that location and nab a handful of the ****heads.
I'm sure the carriers will be more than willing to assist just like w the Capitol rioters
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-05-30/marines-attacked-by-teenagers-san-clemente-memorial-day-weekend
Making some arrests. Good things happening.
Making some arrests. Good things happening.
CanyonAg77 said:
Not trying to make it about race. Just using an extreme example to point out how absurd it was to blame the victims in a 25 to 1 beating
You are clearly not a Marine being able to reduce ratios like that.
Bob Lee said:
Who knows what happened before though? You could run a story probably weekly about a Marine who got his butt whipped in a fight at a bar in Oceanside because he can't handle his alcohol and didn't know when to shut his mouth. Usually it's by another Marine and so it's a non event. I don't know if that's what happened here, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were more confrontational than their portrayal of events.
Bob Lee Swagger? Come on Gunny. No need to take pot shots at Marines.
Could you imagine the outcry if the races were switched of those involved? There would be endless bloviating about how this is "systematic" of white supremacy, our greatest threat... Blah blah blah... But no- as usual it's the other way around and hardly a peep in national media about it.
Our country is freaking stupid.
Our country is freaking stupid.
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