HollywoodBQ said:

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Ten grams

What is that in American?

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Diddly-squat.

A few things:

1. I'm sure they will be encouraged to increase their consumption of vegetable oil, processed grains and sugar.

2. I'm sure there are exceptions for the more noble religions like Islam and Judaism.

CanyonAg77 said:

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HollywoodBQ said:

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Ten grams

What is that in American?

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Diddly-squat.

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I was hoping somebody would tell me it's the same as a tangram

as usual we have a thread full of lemming commentary on memes without anyone bothering to see if it's true or not

https://www.bmel.de/EN/topics/food-and-nutrition/food-nutrition-strategy.html#:~:text=Healthy%20food%20and%20nutrition%3A%20good,to%20be%20drafted%20by%202023.

there's the paper. a shift to a majority plant based is one of the objectives (of which there are many other good rational ones) but i see nothing here about percentages or quantities. if anyone bothers to find an actual article where this number comes from i'd love to see it because i found nichts

in the absence of that, this is otherwise much ado about nothing as are most other nutritional recommendations provided by governments

Much ado about nothing? Do you realize how many deaths the food pyramid caused? All to support big sugar and big grain.

The Green Dragon said:

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Much ado about nothing? Do you realize how many deaths the food pyramid caused? All to support big sugar and big grain.

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feel free to be outraged if you like, but at least do it based on reality

sts7049 said:

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as usual we have a thread full of lemming commentary on memes without anyone bothering to see if it's true or not

https://www.bmel.de/EN/topics/food-and-nutrition/food-nutrition-strategy.html#:~:text=Healthy%20food%20and%20nutrition%3A%20good,to%20be%20drafted%20by%202023.

there's the paper. a shift to a majority plant based is one of the objectives (of which there are many other good rational ones) but i see nothing here about percentages or quantities. if anyone bothers to find an actual article where this number comes from i'd love to see it because i found nichts

in the absence of that, this is otherwise much ado about nothing as are most other nutritional recommendations provided by governments

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Closest I can find.

https://www.dge.de/english/10-guidelines-of-the-german-nutrition-society-dge-for-a-wholesome-diet/

#4: "If you eat meat, you should not consume more than 300 to 600g per week"

That's about 50-100g per day, which isn't much (2-4oz). I eat at least that per meal.

300 to 600g is also well below the 1.5kg (~3 pounds) per week that is consumed by the average German.

sts7049 said:

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The Green Dragon said:

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Much ado about nothing? Do you realize how many deaths the food pyramid caused? All to support big sugar and big grain.

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feel free to be outraged if you like, but at least do it based on reality

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Where am I outraged? I never followed the food pyramid. I'm just offering a retort to "a little government food advice never hurt no one"

goatchze said:

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sts7049 said:

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as usual we have a thread full of lemming commentary on memes without anyone bothering to see if it's true or not

https://www.bmel.de/EN/topics/food-and-nutrition/food-nutrition-strategy.html#:~:text=Healthy%20food%20and%20nutrition%3A%20good,to%20be%20drafted%20by%202023.

there's the paper. a shift to a majority plant based is one of the objectives (of which there are many other good rational ones) but i see nothing here about percentages or quantities. if anyone bothers to find an actual article where this number comes from i'd love to see it because i found nichts

in the absence of that, this is otherwise much ado about nothing as are most other nutritional recommendations provided by governments

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Closest I can find.

https://www.dge.de/english/10-guidelines-of-the-german-nutrition-society-dge-for-a-wholesome-diet/

#4: "If you eat meat, you should not consume more than 300 to 600g per week"

That's about 50-100g per day, which isn't much (2-4oz). I eat at least that per meal.

300 to 600g is also well below the 1.5kg (~3 pounds) per week that is consumed by the average German.

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interesting, although that group appears to be a different body than the govt body.

sts7049 said:

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as usual we have a thread full of lemming commentary on memes without anyone bothering to see if it's true or not

https://www.bmel.de/EN/topics/food-and-nutrition/food-nutrition-strategy.html#:~:text=Healthy%20food%20and%20nutrition%3A%20good,to%20be%20drafted%20by%202023.

there's the paper. a shift to a majority plant based is one of the objectives (of which there are many other good rational ones) but i see nothing here about percentages or quantities. if anyone bothers to find an actual article where this number comes from i'd love to see it because i found nichts

in the absence of that, this is otherwise much ado about nothing as are most other nutritional recommendations provided by governments

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Glad someone else mentioned this. I guess the "screenshot of an article with no link" is the message board version of grandpa's "FW: FW: FW: FW:" emails.

MEEN Ag 05 said:

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Not the first time Germany has implemented this type of eating program

sts7049 said:

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goatchze said:

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sts7049 said:

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as usual we have a thread full of lemming commentary on memes without anyone bothering to see if it's true or not

https://www.bmel.de/EN/topics/food-and-nutrition/food-nutrition-strategy.html#:~:text=Healthy%20food%20and%20nutrition%3A%20good,to%20be%20drafted%20by%202023.

there's the paper. a shift to a majority plant based is one of the objectives (of which there are many other good rational ones) but i see nothing here about percentages or quantities. if anyone bothers to find an actual article where this number comes from i'd love to see it because i found nichts

in the absence of that, this is otherwise much ado about nothing as are most other nutritional recommendations provided by governments

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Closest I can find.

https://www.dge.de/english/10-guidelines-of-the-german-nutrition-society-dge-for-a-wholesome-diet/

#4: "If you eat meat, you should not consume more than 300 to 600g per week"

That's about 50-100g per day, which isn't much (2-4oz). I eat at least that per meal.

300 to 600g is also well below the 1.5kg (~3 pounds) per week that is consumed by the average German.

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interesting, although that group appears to be a different body than the govt body.

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It's the one mentioned in the Reddit picture that was posted in the OP. It's not government, but it is a nutritional research society that makes recommendations to policy makers. Policy makers then use these "experts" to drive agendas. It's sort of like the global warming research people, but for food.

If you look at Table 1 on page 149 of their Position Paper, you can see where the approximate "10g per day" may have originated.

https://www.dge.de//fileadmin/Dokumente/WISSENSCHAFT/Positionspapiere/Positionspapier_EU07_2021_M406_M416_neu.pdf

There are three columns in the table. The first two are "recommendations", one by whatever "Planetary Health Diet, EAT Lancet Commission" is, one by DGE themselves (the 300 to 600g per week numbers). The third column is a national survey of what Germans are actually consuming.

Bottom row is meat. You can sea the "Planetary Health Diet" calls for 14-29g of meat per day. That's 1/2 to 1 ounce. The DGE column calls for 43-86g per day, and the Germans are actually eating 120g per day (quarter pound).

For comparison's sake, we eat double that on average in the US (1/2 pound).

And DGE's own website says they are 75% publicly funded. That means the government.

jrdaustin said:

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HollywoodBQ said:

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Ten grams

What is that in American?

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0.35 of an ounce. Or ~1/48 of a pound.

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This is hilarious. I eat roughly 0.8 - 1lb of fatty red meat 3 times a week.

Western white liberals are the most pathetic group on the planet.

Edit: I see maybe this wasn't entirely factual to begin with. Still doesn't change my statement on libs.

Heyyyy
At 10oz TBone


Say you are old and confused grams with Onces.

It feels good to be a carnivore!

sts7049 said:

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goatchze said:

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sts7049 said:

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as usual we have a thread full of lemming commentary on memes without anyone bothering to see if it's true or not

https://www.bmel.de/EN/topics/food-and-nutrition/food-nutrition-strategy.html#:~:text=Healthy%20food%20and%20nutrition%3A%20good,to%20be%20drafted%20by%202023.

there's the paper. a shift to a majority plant based is one of the objectives (of which there are many other good rational ones) but i see nothing here about percentages or quantities. if anyone bothers to find an actual article where this number comes from i'd love to see it because i found nichts

in the absence of that, this is otherwise much ado about nothing as are most other nutritional recommendations provided by governments

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Closest I can find.

https://www.dge.de/english/10-guidelines-of-the-german-nutrition-society-dge-for-a-wholesome-diet/

#4: "If you eat meat, you should not consume more than 300 to 600g per week"

That's about 50-100g per day, which isn't much (2-4oz). I eat at least that per meal.

300 to 600g is also well below the 1.5kg (~3 pounds) per week that is consumed by the average German.

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interesting, although that group appears to be a different body than the govt body.

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I found this:

Quote:

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10 grams of meat per day: This should be the new upper limit when it comes to the German Society for Nutrition (DGE). The "Bild" has excerpts from an internal document on the subject of the new food strategy. Although the information is only recommendations, these are actually implemented in various places.

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https://www.focus.de/gesundheit/ernaehrung/fliesst-in-regierungspapier-ein-neue-richtlinien-empfehlen-deutschen-nur-noch-10-gramm-fleisch-pro-tag-zu-essen_id_194928590.html

They are proposed guidelines, that's why you can't find them. Now, is the "Bild" making it up? I guess we'll see, but there is reporting about the new recommendation.

goatchze said:

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sts7049 said:

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goatchze said:

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sts7049 said:

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as usual we have a thread full of lemming commentary on memes without anyone bothering to see if it's true or not

https://www.bmel.de/EN/topics/food-and-nutrition/food-nutrition-strategy.html#:~:text=Healthy%20food%20and%20nutrition%3A%20good,to%20be%20drafted%20by%202023.

there's the paper. a shift to a majority plant based is one of the objectives (of which there are many other good rational ones) but i see nothing here about percentages or quantities. if anyone bothers to find an actual article where this number comes from i'd love to see it because i found nichts

in the absence of that, this is otherwise much ado about nothing as are most other nutritional recommendations provided by governments

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Closest I can find.

https://www.dge.de/english/10-guidelines-of-the-german-nutrition-society-dge-for-a-wholesome-diet/

#4: "If you eat meat, you should not consume more than 300 to 600g per week"

That's about 50-100g per day, which isn't much (2-4oz). I eat at least that per meal.

300 to 600g is also well below the 1.5kg (~3 pounds) per week that is consumed by the average German.

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interesting, although that group appears to be a different body than the govt body.

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It's the one mentioned in the Reddit picture that was posted in the OP. It's not government, but it is a nutritional research society that makes recommendations to policy makers. Policy makers then use these "experts" to drive agendas. It's sort of like the global warming research people, but for food.

If you look at Table 1 on page 149 of their Position Paper, you can see where the approximate "10g per day" may have originated.

https://www.dge.de//fileadmin/Dokumente/WISSENSCHAFT/Positionspapiere/Positionspapier_EU07_2021_M406_M416_neu.pdf

There are three columns in the table. The first two are "recommendations", one by whatever "Planetary Health Diet, EAT Lancet Commission" is, one by DGE themselves (the 300 to 600g per week numbers). The third column is a national survey of what Germans are actually consuming.

Bottom row is meat. You can sea the "Planetary Health Diet" calls for 14-29g of meat per day. That's 1/2 to 1 ounce. The DGE column calls for 43-86g per day, and the Germans are actually eating 120g per day (quarter pound).

For comparison's sake, we eat double that on average in the US (1/2 pound).

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appreciate the rational response.

from what i can tell briefly, this "planetary health diet" is a different thing coming from somewhere else, and the DGE may well be also part of the german govt but it doesn't look like (yet) that BMEL has proposed to adopt this particular diet.

in any case, i guess we will see what the final version looks like.

TxTarpon said:

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Heyyyy
At 10oz TBone


Say you are old and confused grams with Onces.

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I'd like to see disassociation from these global organizations become a platform for the right. We can't be world leaders if we're following.

I appreciate your enthusiasm for the finer points of German bureaucracy.

Screw that BS. I'm on a low carb diet that is working and I'm not starving hungry while losing weight. Lunch was a ribeye steak. I clean out the cheaper steaks at HEB when we go shopping. Just bought about 7 ribeyes and NY strips, along with a toddler sized tube of ground beef.

Squadron7 said:

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But you can eat all of the crickets you want!

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Sensible folks let their chickens eat crickets,
and then they eat the chickens.

sleepybeagle said:

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Squadron7 said:

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But you can eat all of the crickets you want!

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Sensible folks let their chickens eat crickets,
and then they eat the chickens.

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Just as I enjoy a plant based diet.

Cows eat grass

I eat cows

They can always Eat ze bugs.

ElKabong said:

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Nice Letterkenny reference.

HollywoodBQ said:

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Ten grams

What is that in American?

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About the mass of ten paperclips.

But it's being done in the name of.....yep......ye olde global warming. Hence, the liberal idiots over here will be all over it. Standing by for yet another zecutive order from Joey B.

What is the Over/Under on how many months before we see our first "Climate Shutdown"?

And which country will be first?

Canada under Prime Minister Zoolander looks like an early favorite.