Don't let Team Trump rewrite history!

"We did the right thing. We closed the country down."pic.twitter.com/vH7f0xLSAZ

— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) May 25, 2023

I know most of my followers are probably voting NO on the poll above.

So WHY in the world did Trump award Fauci one of the highest presidential awards right BEFORE he left office?

He literally had nothing to lose at this point. pic.twitter.com/xYnHJmQY5s

— Courtney Holland 🇺🇸 (@hollandcourtney) May 24, 2023

We can never allow 'Warp Speed' to trump informed consent in this country ever again,

The idol worshipers will be here shortly to explain this away...

Is this the point voters flip flop and now republicans (at least the Trump ones) are for vaccines/masks/lockdowns and democrats will be against them?

In fairness, the effort to research and mass produce a vaccine that quickly was worthy of recognition.

The only problem was it didn't do what it was supposed to, but everyone proceeded to act like it did.

Edit: I also think it's a bit disingenuous to make this all about Fauci after the fact. He was part of it, but it's not like Trump singled him out for a Presidential Medal of Freedom or something.

javajaws said:

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Is this the point voters flip flop and now republicans (at least the Trump ones) are for vaccines/masks/lockdowns and democrats will be against them?

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Democrats were magnitudes worse than Trump or any republican was on Covid, lockdowns, etc. Trump is trying to white wash his past and act like a Desantis was the one who is bad on lockdowns.

The truth is not trumps friend versus DeSantis.

Yeah, Trump screwed the pooch on rona irregardless of if you want to vote for him in the primary.

javajaws said:

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Is this the point voters flip flop and now republicans (at least the Trump ones) are for vaccines/masks/lockdowns and democrats will be against them?

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If Trump says to be for the shots, masks, and lockdowns, then his followers will be as well.

They have sold their souls to Trump and will take whatever position he tells them to.

The TDF is now en route, prepare to get owned

96AgGrad said:

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In fairness, the effort to research and mass produce a vaccine that quickly was worthy of recognition.

The only problem was it didn't do what it was supposed to, but everyone proceeded to act like it did.

Edit: I also think it's a bit disingenuous to make this all about Fauci after the fact. He was part of it, but it's not like Trump singled him out for a Presidential Medal of Freedom or something.

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I would say the mandate to get the "vax" or lose your job was a bigger issue. I know that was Biden's handlers' deal, but Fraudci was on board with that and deserves to burn for it.

Lockdown Don

Is the implication that people that like Trump can't admit when he is wrong? Because I can easily say that Trump made a lot of mistakes on COVID and still recognize that he did a lot well during his presidency. The people that always complain about the "cult of personality" are the first to try and spin every little thing into orange man bad at every chance they get.

I'll gladly vote for Trump or Desantis. They're both miles better than what we have now. But let's not act like Trump was pimping vaccine mandates or arguing we should shut down for years on end. He wanted the country fully open by Easter and was lambasted for it. If I'm not mistaken, all mandates came after he left office.

ChemEAg08 said:

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Yeah, Trump screwed the pooch on rona irregardless of if you want to vote for him in the primary.

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True and should be a big deal to republican voters.

Well, his own words in the video above - "that's a president decision"

So if he wanted it, why weren't we?

I think you could make an alternative spot with both Trump and Biden saying the same things, and be very effective.

Hard truth here:

DeSantis: Trump “did great for three years. But when he turned the country over to Fauci … that destroyed millions of people's lives.” pic.twitter.com/9hwvSh2qzI

— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) May 25, 2023

My biggest issue is how Trump let Fauci and Brix run over him for months, even after if was obvious they had an agenda and wanted to screw him and most of country.

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Well, his own words in the video above - "that's a president decision"

So if he wanted it, why weren't we?

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Time frames matter. In the initial days when there was uncertainty about whether this was the flu or the plague, you can very easily make the argument that shutting down in some capacity is the right move.

The problem is when time passes and data becomes more available and you don't adapt accordingly. Also, the President can call for a shut down, but short of sending the army to every city in America, that is a move undertaken by the states. Hence why the opening back up was such a debacle.

Again, you can disagree with Trumps political decision to claim his COVID policy as an asset, but let's not confuse what he actually did with the bull**** and nonsense that was foist upon us for the ensuing years by the Democrats and political establishment.

Kvetch said:

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Is the implication that people that like Trump can't admit when he is wrong? Because I can easily say that Trump made a lot of mistakes on COVID and still recognize that he did a lot well during his presidency. The people that always complain about the "cult of personality" are the first to try and spin every little thing into orange man bad at every chance they get.

I'll gladly vote for Trump or Desantis. They're both miles better than what we have now. But let's not act like Trump was pimping vaccine mandates or arguing we should shut down for years on end. He wanted the country fully open by Easter and was lambasted for it. If I'm not mistaken, all mandates came after he left office.

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There is a balance and I think that balance is what is happening here. Trump made some huge mistakes and he also was out front doing all he could to take credit for lockdowns and the vax. He talked about Warp Speed constantly and his "beautiful vaccine" that he did everything he could to push through as fast as he could. He talked about how other countries DIDN'T shut down but he was making the right choice to do it.

Is he Biden? Not at all, but he deserves a LOT of blame. By lending his credibility to all those things he gave the Swamp and later the Dems all the ammo they needed to screw us. Everything that has happened since is in part because Trump wasn't smart enough or strong enough to stand up when he needed to. I have ZERO sympathy for Trump taking heat for his decisions during Covid, you don't get to brag about how powerful you are as President and do things that had never been able to happen before and it fails this badly and then you get a pass. He needs to own it, ask for forgiveness, and explain why it will NEVER happen again. He hasn't done any of those 3 things.

I can forgive him for that as it was a very difficult situation but I won't forget. We have another option who DID stand up and I have no problem with DeSantis sticking Covid right up Trump's ass. I remember how many things that were lost for me and my family and I was lucky compared to many others. When you are President the Buck Stops Here.

I can't believe I'm defending Trump, but Operation Warp Speed was impressive. That was the enhanced vax development timeline, not forcing the shot upon people.

- GeorgiAg, Trump Defender.

Ok, I feel sick. Gotta go take a shower.

GeorgiAg said:

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I can't believe I'm defending Trump, but Operation Warp Speed was impressive. That was the enhanced vax development timeline, not forcing the shot upon people.

- GeorgiAg, Trump Defender.

Ok, I feel sick. Gotta go take a shower.

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"Is this the real life, is this just fantasy? "

I mean, Florida did shut down, Desantis regularly recommended vaccines to at risk populations, and he didn't really open up more than a week or two before Trump's Easter recommendation. I think he was more politically shrewd about handling the situation over time because his ego wasn't attached to Warp Speed like Trump's, but let's not act like there was an immense difference in his action versus Trump's.

I think Trump was dumb to not fire Fauci, but the next man up would've been just as bad. Nobody here would've been happy with anything short of disbanding the CDC and NIH, which is never going to happen. In retrospect, you can say it's obvious Trump should've fired Fauci, but the political calculus in the moment wasn't that clear, and I don't really think firing him solves any of the problems that we link to Fauci.

Either way, I still maintain that you can recognize the mistakes Trump made while maintaining perspective on who actually implemented the things that impacted our lives. "The buck stops with me" is a nice little campaign slogan, but it doesn't really mean anything when you're talking about a nationwide policy enforcement issue that is carried out largely on the local level. For all the BS accusations that Trump takes about being an authoritarian wannabe, the actions he took on COVID, BLM riots, etc. regularly showed that he stayed well within the limits of his powers.

GeorgiAg said:

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I can't believe I'm defending Trump, but Operation Warp Speed was impressive. That was the enhanced vax development timeline, not forcing the shot upon people.

- GeorgiAg, Trump Defender.

Ok, I feel sick. Gotta go take a shower.

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IF it worked and IF it was safe and IF the mandates didn't come later that would be fine. None of those things happened though and Trump being foolish enough to think that Fauci and Big Pharma were his friends and he would get the credit for being "The Father of the Vaccine" was just a perfect example of how his arrogance was used against him. He lost re-election. A lot of other people lost a hell of a lot more than that.

“A group of very smart people walk in and say Sir, we have to close it. And we did the right thing…. We closed the country down.” https://t.co/got2VibGTy pic.twitter.com/0ybQdVXHea

— Christina Pushaw 🐊 🇺🇸 (@ChristinaPushaw) May 25, 2023

GeorgiAg said:

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I can't believe I'm defending Trump, but Operation Warp Speed was impressive. That was the enhanced vax development timeline, not forcing the shot upon people.

- GeorgiAg, Trump Defender.

Ok, I feel sick. Gotta go take a shower.

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No one is surprised you support a government boondoggle! Spent now many millions on a dud?

Rapier108 said:

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javajaws said:

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Is this the point voters flip flop and now republicans (at least the Trump ones) are for vaccines/masks/lockdowns and democrats will be against them?

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If Trump says to be for the shots, masks, and lockdowns, then his followers will be as well.

They have sold their souls to Trump and will take whatever position he tells them to.

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This made me laugh. Thank you. Thats a high level drama queen hyperbole post right there. Lulz

Im Gipper said:

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Hard truth here:

DeSantis: Trump “did great for three years. But when he turned the country over to Fauci … that destroyed millions of people's lives.” pic.twitter.com/9hwvSh2qzI

— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) May 25, 2023

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And then you voted for Biden and we've had the most miserable 3 years in this country's existence...

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And then you voted for Biden

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WRONG. Try again!

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and we've had the most miserable 3 years in this country's existence...

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Everyone knows Biden was fat far worse than Trump on COVID & every other issue. Even Libs know, they just don't admit it!

Many on here said Bad Trump for all these moves. Bad Trump is still better than 99% of democrats.

Let's hope for someone genuinely better than Bad Trump.

Memories.....

Donald Trump Jr. in 2021: "Gov. DeSantis got more hell in Florida for keeping beaches open -- for keeping beaches open! -- with social distancing and masks, than Andrew Cuomo got for executive orders sending people into nursing homes to die" pic.twitter.com/oP3xY7cRMt https://t.co/ONYbJLKgC8

— Never Back Down (@NvrBackDown24) May 25, 2023

Trump repeatedly admitted he didn't fire Dr. Fauci because he was afraid of creating a "firestorm on the left" and "taking heat" from the media. https://t.co/mXxFAFgdc1 pic.twitter.com/ju70F7xDYg

— Never Back Down (@NvrBackDown24) May 25, 2023

Trump the moron


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/u-s-lifts-moratorium-on-funding-controversial-high-risk-virus-research/

U.S. Lifts Moratorium on Funding Controversial, High-Risk Virus Research

• December 19, 2017

Trump was played by NIH, Fauci, and Big Pharma.


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099%2818%2930006-9/fulltext


Fauci was running the NIH

On Dec 19, 2017, the US National Institutes of Health (NIH) announced that they would resume funding gain-of-function experiments involving influenza, Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus.

Kvetch said:

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I mean, Florida did shut down, Desantis regularly recommended vaccines to at risk populations, and he didn't really open up more than a week or two before Trump's Easter recommendation. I think he was more politically shrewd about handling the situation over time because his ego wasn't attached to Warp Speed like Trump's, but let's not act like there was an immense difference in his action versus Trump's.

I think Trump was dumb to not fire Fauci, but the next man up would've been just as bad. Nobody here would've been happy with anything short of disbanding the CDC and NIH, which is never going to happen. In retrospect, you can say it's obvious Trump should've fired Fauci, but the political calculus in the moment wasn't that clear, and I don't really think firing him solves any of the problems that we link to Fauci.

Either way, I still maintain that you can recognize the mistakes Trump made while maintaining perspective on who actually implemented the things that impacted our lives. "The buck stops with me" is a nice little campaign slogan, but it doesn't really mean anything when you're talking about a nationwide policy enforcement issue that is carried out largely on the local level. For all the BS accusations that Trump takes about being an authoritarian wannabe, the actions he took on COVID, BLM riots, etc. regularly showed that he stayed well within the limits of his powers.

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This is extremely well put. The only thing I would add is an extension to the last sentence: when you have a very organized campaign of terror launched against you (wether one includes Covid in it or not), that neither you nor your party were adequately prepared for, it is very difficult to fight that war along with one against the pandemic -- something we haven't experienced in this country in over a generation. The media was flip-flopping almost daily trying to figure out who was benefitting by how they were reporting the virus -- was it go out and live it up like Pelosi was saying in early March of 2000 or was it the 2 more weeks to New York mess in April or May, so mask up? Then the well planned summer riots that were just waiting for a cause.

DeSantis didn't have to deal with ANY of that. I'm not saying DeSantis isn't the guy nor am I saying Trump and his team didn't fail by not planning for much of what actually went down, especially as the year (2020) dragged on. But to say that DeSantis handled THE situation better than Trump is a total lie. DeSantis didn't have Trump's situation to deal with. He had his own, which he might have handled better than Trump's, but I handled my own situation better than either of them, which has nothing to do with anything. So the comparison argument here is a little weak, at best.

Im Gipper said:

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Don't let Team Trump rewrite history!

"We did the right thing. We closed the country down."pic.twitter.com/vH7f0xLSAZ

— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) May 25, 2023

I know most of my followers are probably voting NO on the poll above.

So WHY in the world did Trump award Fauci one of the highest presidential awards right BEFORE he left office?

He literally had nothing to lose at this point. pic.twitter.com/xYnHJmQY5s

— Courtney Holland 🇺🇸 (@hollandcourtney) May 24, 2023

We can never allow 'Warp Speed' to trump informed consent in this country ever again,

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Dude let it go. When will people stop obsessing. You don't like him! OK we get it.

stallion6 said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Don't let Team Trump rewrite history!

"We did the right thing. We closed the country down."pic.twitter.com/vH7f0xLSAZ

— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) May 25, 2023

I know most of my followers are probably voting NO on the poll above.

So WHY in the world did Trump award Fauci one of the highest presidential awards right BEFORE he left office?

He literally had nothing to lose at this point. pic.twitter.com/xYnHJmQY5s

— Courtney Holland 🇺🇸 (@hollandcourtney) May 24, 2023

We can never allow 'Warp Speed' to trump informed consent in this country ever again,

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Dude let it go. When will people stop obsessing. You don't like him! OK we get it.

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Hopefully everyone gets it, he failed and his "vaccine" is making people sick, including cancer.