I'm going to post this and then duck.

For all the MAGA bluster that DeSantis has been ground to dust; they spend more time and energy on him than they do on Biden or any one else.

Ouch

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For all the MAGA bluster that DeSantis has been ground to dust; they spend more time and energy on him than they do on Biden or any one else.

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…due to the shear entertainment his followers are giving as he melts away.

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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PA24 said:

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Rongagin71 said:

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This has been discussed multiple times.
DeSantis will stay in for as long as DeSantis wants to stay in.
He has no reason to give up unless Trump offers him VP.

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Wrong

He is a neglecting his job as a governor for an o close cause.

He is bleeding his investors who are banking him.

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He's my Governor and he hasn't neglected ****

And every candidate ever bleeds their investors.

But you are pathetic for continuing to promote b.s. like this.

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Best governor Florida has ever had and it is not even close.

Shame he can't run for a third term.

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He changed the law to go after Reedy Creek. Changed the law so he wouldn't have to resign to run for President. Why can't he change that too?

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Rapier108 said:

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For all the MAGA bluster that DeSantis has been ground to dust; they spend more time and energy on him than they do on Biden or any one else.

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…due to the shear entertainment his followers are giving as he melts away.

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The shear entertainment of this primary is...well...pretty self-explanatory.

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For all the MAGA bluster that DeSantis has been ground to dust; they spend more time and energy on him than they do on Biden or any one else.

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Libs gonna lib.

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I think it's funny that those have been the bingo words for almost a year…

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My point is there are Trump grifters and Biden grifters and DeSantis grifters. Grifters, grifters everywhere. Are there more on this side or that? Sure. The greater point though is that some are much worse than others. When you see someone change their positions mid stream for instance and only see the flaws on one side and ignore or lie about them on their side. All do it to an extent, some are just much worse than others.

Anyway, feel free to get in a twist about it if you want.

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When I go back and watch Broadcast News every so often when it comes up it amazes me how much they nailed the change as it was happening in real time, now we have just devolved further and further.

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With Holly Hunter and William Hurt? That was a good movie.

But Network with Faye Dunaway and Bill Holden was better in catching the overall decline in news. And that was years before CNN paid Saddam Hussein to be the only outlet allowed during the Gulf War.

And Peter Finch as Howard Beale

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Yeah, I always liked Broadcast News better but I agree Network was the beginning. Most movies are complete crap but occasionally there are those that really hit a message or point in time.

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PA24 said:

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Rongagin71 said:

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This has been discussed multiple times.
DeSantis will stay in for as long as DeSantis wants to stay in.
He has no reason to give up unless Trump offers him VP.

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Wrong

He is a neglecting his job as a governor for an o close cause.

He is bleeding his investors who are banking him.

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He's my Governor and he hasn't neglected ****

And every candidate ever bleeds their investors.

But you are pathetic for continuing to promote b.s. like this.

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Facts or facts, you wrote he can stay in for a long time, that looks like his course. It takes a lot of funds to run a campaign, those investors are not going to forget their ROI on him in 2028.

Guess he is running Florida from his cell phone.

is South Carolina primary winner take all delegates or proportional?

PA24 said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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PA24 said:

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Rongagin71 said:

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This has been discussed multiple times.
DeSantis will stay in for as long as DeSantis wants to stay in.
He has no reason to give up unless Trump offers him VP.

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Wrong

He is a neglecting his job as a governor for an o close cause.

He is bleeding his investors who are banking him.

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He's my Governor and he hasn't neglected ****

And every candidate ever bleeds their investors.

But you are pathetic for continuing to promote b.s. like this.

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Facts or facts, you wrote he can stay in for a long time, that looks like his course. It takes a lot of funds to run a campaign, those investors are not going to forget their ROI on him in 2028.

Guess he is running Florida from his cell phone.

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DeSantis runs Florida from his cell phone 10x better than Abbott does from the Governor's mansion. Dude still racks up W's more than anyone and does it in the middle of his campaign. When you build a strong staff you can execute all kinds of things, he doesn't waste time on infighting or incompetence he just gets stuff done. This is just the last couple days. Too bad we don't seem to want this in DC.

Our Great Outdoors Initiative, which offered 50% discounts on lifetime hunting & fishing licenses and state park passes, was a record-breaking success.

More than 130,000 Floridians took advantage of these discounts, including 23,000 first-time hunting & fishing license holders.

— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) January 18, 2024

Since 2019, we have invested more than $70 million for water quality projects in Florida's Biscayne Bay, an economic staple of South Florida.

Today, we are awarding another $20 million to protect this hub of sport and commercial fishing in our state.

— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) January 18, 2024

Today, I am announcing more than $35 million to expand semiconductor manufacturing education in Florida.

This will help our state produce more semiconductors while empowering our students to obtain high-paying jobs without going into debt.

— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) January 18, 2024

Since Nikki Haley is refusing to debate Ron DeSantis before NH, I present to you: Nikki Haley debating herself. #nevernikki https://t.co/oDOZUhX4he

— Rand Paul (@RandPaul) January 19, 2024

This is another statistic that the Trumpers never discuss:

SIX former American Presidents ran for the Presidency again after they were defeated.

Only ONE of them was successful.

So looks like Trump wants to be second behind Grover Cleveland.

however there are a lot of other jobs Trump can go for:

John Quincy Adams became a Congressman after being President

John Tyler became a Congressman in the Confederate States of American Congress (provisional) and died before assuming office in the full Confederate Congress

Andrew Johnson became a Senator after being the President and impeached and thrown out of the White House.

I remember Clinton was not popular in the leftist primaries but had no idea it was this bad. all Desantis has to do is not give up and at least get to the convention with the second most amount of delegates

1992 Iowa Caucus Result:

Tom Harkin 76
Bill Clinton 3

Bill went on to lose in New Hampshire and get his ass beat on Super Tuesday.

Bill didn't give up, he stayed in the race and started gaining momentum. We all know how it ended. Bill became President.

Keep fighting Ron!

— Unfiltered☢Boss (@Unfilteredboss1) January 19, 2024

poor Melania to be publicly humiliated by Trump spending all his time with Alina Habba while his mother in law was literally dying

apparently Melania is done with that and looking forward to divorce #4. but loyalty!!

Don got dismissed. 😳 https://t.co/nRlrLTvd8I

— Mark 🇺🇸🐊 (@FLWolf01) January 19, 2024

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I remember Clinton was not popular in the leftist primaries but had no idea it was this bad. all Desantis has to do is not give up and at least get to the convention with the second most amount of delegates

1992 Iowa Caucus Result:

Tom Harkin 76
Bill Clinton 3

Bill went on to lose in New Hampshire and get his ass beat on Super Tuesday.

Bill didn't give up, he stayed in the race and started gaining momentum. We all know how it ended. Bill became President.

Keep fighting Ron!

— Unfiltered☢Boss (@Unfilteredboss1) January 19, 2024

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Bud…I don't know how to tell you this…but that rule generally only applies to non-incumbent, contested races…

While this race is amongst non-incumbents, Trump polls like an incumbent…

It's apples and oranges…

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Andrew Johnson became a Senator after being the President and impeached and thrown out of the White House.

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Johnson was impeached, but not convicted. He served the remainder of the term.

seriously, has anyone in real life ever seen a husband and wife after the funeral of one of their parents- take different cars home and not hug each other, kiss each other or at least hold hands. you can see how Melania is now super skinny and basically chewing Trump out, he turns meekly and walks to another vehicle. after a funeral!!

so it's okay for Trump to be disloyal to all his wives, but DeSantis is shunned because 6 years ago Trump sent out a tweet to vote for him?!?!

our latest iteration of insanity. you guys are on your own- I'm heading to early FIRE retirement in Melbourne, Florida and we are putting up roadblocks to anyone else trying to invade our state.

pic.twitter.com/gAjPe5WYFK

— HJoseph (@DontShedOnMe_1) January 19, 2024

aggie93 said:

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PA24 said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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PA24 said:

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Rongagin71 said:

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This has been discussed multiple times.
DeSantis will stay in for as long as DeSantis wants to stay in.
He has no reason to give up unless Trump offers him VP.

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Wrong

He is a neglecting his job as a governor for an o close cause.

He is bleeding his investors who are banking him.

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He's my Governor and he hasn't neglected ****

And every candidate ever bleeds their investors.

But you are pathetic for continuing to promote b.s. like this.

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Facts or facts, you wrote he can stay in for a long time, that looks like his course. It takes a lot of funds to run a campaign, those investors are not going to forget their ROI on him in 2028.

Guess he is running Florida from his cell phone.

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DeSantis runs Florida from his cell phone 10x better than Abbott does from the Governor's mansion. Dude still racks up W's more than anyone and does it in the middle of his campaign. When you build a strong staff you can execute all kinds of things, he doesn't waste time on infighting or incompetence he just gets stuff done. This is just the last couple days. Too bad we don't seem to want this in DC.

Our Great Outdoors Initiative, which offered 50% discounts on lifetime hunting & fishing licenses and state park passes, was a record-breaking success.

More than 130,000 Floridians took advantage of these discounts, including 23,000 first-time hunting & fishing license holders.

— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) January 18, 2024

Since 2019, we have invested more than $70 million for water quality projects in Florida's Biscayne Bay, an economic staple of South Florida.

Today, we are awarding another $20 million to protect this hub of sport and commercial fishing in our state.

— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) January 18, 2024

Today, I am announcing more than $35 million to expand semiconductor manufacturing education in Florida.

This will help our state produce more semiconductors while empowering our students to obtain high-paying jobs without going into debt.

— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) January 18, 2024

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consider he is currently polling single digit numbers in all upcoming states, he has the time.

BUT he is no Abbott, I bet wished he would have followed Abbott lead and endorsed Trump rather than challenge him.

Dude even had the rules changed in Florida so he could stay governor, he knew it was a stupid idea to run but still did it.

LMCane said:

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I remember Clinton was not popular in the leftist primaries but had no idea it was this bad. all Desantis has to do is not give up and at least get to the convention with the second most amount of delegates

1992 Iowa Caucus Result:

Tom Harkin 76
Bill Clinton 3

Bill went on to lose in New Hampshire and get his ass beat on Super Tuesday.

Bill didn't give up, he stayed in the race and started gaining momentum. We all know how it ended. Bill became President.

Keep fighting Ron!

— Unfiltered☢Boss (@Unfilteredboss1) January 19, 2024

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To be fair everyone skipped Iowa as Harkin was Governor of Iowa and they so no point that year. Harkin faded fast after that.

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aggie93 said:

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PA24 said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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PA24 said:

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Rongagin71 said:

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This has been discussed multiple times.
DeSantis will stay in for as long as DeSantis wants to stay in.
He has no reason to give up unless Trump offers him VP.

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Wrong

He is a neglecting his job as a governor for an o close cause.

He is bleeding his investors who are banking him.

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He's my Governor and he hasn't neglected ****

And every candidate ever bleeds their investors.

But you are pathetic for continuing to promote b.s. like this.

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Facts or facts, you wrote he can stay in for a long time, that looks like his course. It takes a lot of funds to run a campaign, those investors are not going to forget their ROI on him in 2028.

Guess he is running Florida from his cell phone.

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DeSantis runs Florida from his cell phone 10x better than Abbott does from the Governor's mansion. Dude still racks up W's more than anyone and does it in the middle of his campaign. When you build a strong staff you can execute all kinds of things, he doesn't waste time on infighting or incompetence he just gets stuff done. This is just the last couple days. Too bad we don't seem to want this in DC.

Our Great Outdoors Initiative, which offered 50% discounts on lifetime hunting & fishing licenses and state park passes, was a record-breaking success.

More than 130,000 Floridians took advantage of these discounts, including 23,000 first-time hunting & fishing license holders.

— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) January 18, 2024

Since 2019, we have invested more than $70 million for water quality projects in Florida's Biscayne Bay, an economic staple of South Florida.

Today, we are awarding another $20 million to protect this hub of sport and commercial fishing in our state.

— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) January 18, 2024

Today, I am announcing more than $35 million to expand semiconductor manufacturing education in Florida.

This will help our state produce more semiconductors while empowering our students to obtain high-paying jobs without going into debt.

— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) January 18, 2024

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consider he is currently polling single digit numbers in all upcoming states, he has the time.

BUT he is no Abbott, I bet wished he would have followed Abbott lead and endorsed Trump rather than challenge him.

Dude even had the rules changed in Florida so he could stay governor, he knew it was a stupid idea to run but still did it.

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If you seriously are glad Abbott is the Governor of Texas than DeSantis I'd say you are in a really, really small minority that thinks the main qualification for being Governor is loyalty to Trump.

I have mixed emotions on Abbott, but I know Texas could have worse…

Love what he has done shipping illegals north…that effort alone earns my vote…

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He better kiss that ring

😳 This is damaging.

Trump can't pretend his slip-up was purposeful this time.

At 15 seconds you can hear a pin drop when the rally-goers realize he's confused Nikki Haley for Nancy Pelosi, in his rant about January 6th.#VoteSmarter https://t.co/MDUZdPa73i

— EllyKayUSA (@EllyKayUSA) January 20, 2024

Candace just is amazing. She has spent the last 6 months going scorched Earth on DeSantis and alternating her love for Trump who is the "Father of the Vaccine" and Vivek who literally made all of his Billions in Pharma and pushed the Vax. Now that it looks like Trump is inevitable she is tweeting Massie and talking about how dangerous the vax is and how Pharma companies are colluding with the government to push it on you and get paid.

To be clear, these financial incentives exist for all vaccines which is why pediatricians literally kick out parents who say they don’t want to vaccinate. It is not about public health, it is about money.

I have an entire series dedicated to this topic.
Start your journey for… https://t.co/wxRwuV44B9

— Candace Owens (@RealCandaceO) January 19, 2024

Um, some of the Trump stuff is just bizarre. Lot of this out there.

WHAT. IN. GODS. NAME. IS. THIS. BLASPHEMOUS. CRAP?! pic.twitter.com/v0mA5sjEXm

— Right Wing Dad (@RightWingDad) January 19, 2024

aggie93 said:

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Um, some of the Trump stuff is just bizarre. Lot of this out there.

WHAT. IN. GODS. NAME. IS. THIS. BLASPHEMOUS. CRAP?! pic.twitter.com/v0mA5sjEXm

— Right Wing Dad (@RightWingDad) January 19, 2024

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And the Democrat's ammo cache just keeps growing an growing.

Same for the video above of Trump's brain shorting out.

DeSantis still drawing crowds btw

Good morning Myrtle Beach! ☀️ pic.twitter.com/JTamxgFBCU

— Jess Szymanski (@jesszymanskii) January 20, 2024

Rapier108 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Um, some of the Trump stuff is just bizarre. Lot of this out there.

WHAT. IN. GODS. NAME. IS. THIS. BLASPHEMOUS. CRAP?! pic.twitter.com/v0mA5sjEXm

— Right Wing Dad (@RightWingDad) January 19, 2024

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And the Democrat's ammo cache just keeps growing an growing.

Same for the video above of Trump's brain shorting out.

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Rapier

If you can prove this came from the Trump camp, you may be on to something. It looks madeup.