OFFICIAL ****Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis*** thread...

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Tibbers said:

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willtackleforfood said:

Is Vegas good?

Nikki Haley Surges Past DeSantis in GOP Nomination Betting Odds, Trump Leads All

Poor Ron and his boots.
People may not like the polls but he cant even get a trend going in the right direction. These odds prove that. He needs a lift and not the ones in his boots.
No one likes him. He is a Benedict Arnold.
I know a lot of "No ones" then.
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BD88 said:

willtackleforfood said:

Is Vegas good?

Nikki Haley Surges Past DeSantis in GOP Nomination Betting Odds, Trump Leads All

Poor Ron and his boots.
People may not like the polls but he cant even get a trend going in the right direction. These odds prove that. He needs a lift and not the ones in his boots.
Not really. They just prove people are betting one way or another. DeSantis has well over 20k Caucus goers in Iowa that have literally signed up to say they will caucus for him and are recruiting their friends to do so as well.

I guess we will find out in 3 months which strategy worked. Trump really should work on remembering what city he is in though, it's not like he is doing a lot of campaigning and he is reading off a teleprompter. Maybe he needs more notecards, I've heard it helps with candidates as they approach 80 to remember where they are and what they are doing.
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It is truly amazing how DeSantis lives rent free in Trump's head, and the head of MAGA.

MAGA rarely if ever talks about Trump; but they spend day after day after day parroting Trump's infantile insults at DeSantis and/or his supporters.

Heck, even on Free Republic tonight on the Trump live in Iowa thread, they only have around 100 posts (at the time of his post), and 1/3 to 1/2 are about trashing DeSantis and/or his supporters. The rest are almost all just saying how wonderful Trump is and how glorious it is to bask in his presence.

DeSantis supporters are more focused on their candidate, except we have Trump tossed in our face every 5 minutes. Kind of hard to forget about him when people want to scream "TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP" over and over and over again.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

It is truly amazing how DeSantis lives rent free in Trump's head, and the head of MAGA.

MAGA rarely if ever talks about Trump; but they spend day after day after day parroting Trump's infantile insults at DeSantis and/or his supporters.

Heck, even on Free Republic tonight on the Trump live in Iowa thread, they only have around 100 posts (at the time of his post), and 1/3 to 1/2 are about trashing DeSantis and/or his supporters. The rest are almost all just saying how wonderful Trump is and how glorious it is to bask in his presence.

DeSantis supporters are more focused on their candidate, except we have Trump tossed in our face every 5 minutes. Kind of hard to forget about him when people want to scream "TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP" over and over and over again.
Personally I find it fascinating that there are hardly any Trump posts actually showing Trump speaking and reacting to it. Most of them are DeSantis folks posting Trump screwing up yet again and no one defends him. Just moves back to polls or attacks on DeSantis on super important stuff like him wearing cowboy boots.

I mean Trump says some good things. He has some good positions. It's just staggering that doesn't seem to matter.
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aggie93 said:

Rapier108 said:

It is truly amazing how DeSantis lives rent free in Trump's head, and the head of MAGA.

MAGA rarely if ever talks about Trump; but they spend day after day after day parroting Trump's infantile insults at DeSantis and/or his supporters.

Heck, even on Free Republic tonight on the Trump live in Iowa thread, they only have around 100 posts (at the time of his post), and 1/3 to 1/2 are about trashing DeSantis and/or his supporters. The rest are almost all just saying how wonderful Trump is and how glorious it is to bask in his presence.

DeSantis supporters are more focused on their candidate, except we have Trump tossed in our face every 5 minutes. Kind of hard to forget about him when people want to scream "TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP" over and over and over again.
Personally I find it fascinating that there are hardly any Trump posts actually showing Trump speaking and reacting to it. Most of them are DeSantis folks posting Trump screwing up yet again and no one defends him. Just moves back to polls or attacks on DeSantis on super important stuff like him wearing cowboy boots.

I mean Trump says some good things. He has some good positions. It's just staggering that doesn't seem to matter.



You CONVENIENTLY left off that he once ate pudding with his fingers. He also once had drinks...with girls...and didn't grab them by the P.

Oh, the yuge manatee!
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BigRobSA said:

aggie93 said:

Rapier108 said:

It is truly amazing how DeSantis lives rent free in Trump's head, and the head of MAGA.

MAGA rarely if ever talks about Trump; but they spend day after day after day parroting Trump's infantile insults at DeSantis and/or his supporters.

Heck, even on Free Republic tonight on the Trump live in Iowa thread, they only have around 100 posts (at the time of his post), and 1/3 to 1/2 are about trashing DeSantis and/or his supporters. The rest are almost all just saying how wonderful Trump is and how glorious it is to bask in his presence.

DeSantis supporters are more focused on their candidate, except we have Trump tossed in our face every 5 minutes. Kind of hard to forget about him when people want to scream "TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP" over and over and over again.
Personally I find it fascinating that there are hardly any Trump posts actually showing Trump speaking and reacting to it. Most of them are DeSantis folks posting Trump screwing up yet again and no one defends him. Just moves back to polls or attacks on DeSantis on super important stuff like him wearing cowboy boots.

I mean Trump says some good things. He has some good positions. It's just staggering that doesn't seem to matter.



You CONVENIENTLY left off that he once ate pudding with his fingers. He also once had drinks...with girls...and didn't grab them by the P.

Oh, the yuge manatee!
I mean this is pretty riveting and relevant stuff here.


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Anyone that believes that '24 Trump is the best this nation had to offer needs a mental health check.
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BigRobSA said:

aggie93 said:

Rapier108 said:

It is truly amazing how DeSantis lives rent free in Trump's head, and the head of MAGA.

MAGA rarely if ever talks about Trump; but they spend day after day after day parroting Trump's infantile insults at DeSantis and/or his supporters.

Heck, even on Free Republic tonight on the Trump live in Iowa thread, they only have around 100 posts (at the time of his post), and 1/3 to 1/2 are about trashing DeSantis and/or his supporters. The rest are almost all just saying how wonderful Trump is and how glorious it is to bask in his presence.

DeSantis supporters are more focused on their candidate, except we have Trump tossed in our face every 5 minutes. Kind of hard to forget about him when people want to scream "TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP" over and over and over again.
Personally I find it fascinating that there are hardly any Trump posts actually showing Trump speaking and reacting to it. Most of them are DeSantis folks posting Trump screwing up yet again and no one defends him. Just moves back to polls or attacks on DeSantis on super important stuff like him wearing cowboy boots.

I mean Trump says some good things. He has some good positions. It's just staggering that doesn't seem to matter.



You CONVENIENTLY left off that he once ate pudding with his fingers. He also once had drinks...with girls...and didn't grab them by the P.

Oh, the yuge manatee!
This means he support Bud Light!!!!
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aggie93 said:

BigRobSA said:

aggie93 said:

Rapier108 said:

It is truly amazing how DeSantis lives rent free in Trump's head, and the head of MAGA.

MAGA rarely if ever talks about Trump; but they spend day after day after day parroting Trump's infantile insults at DeSantis and/or his supporters.

Heck, even on Free Republic tonight on the Trump live in Iowa thread, they only have around 100 posts (at the time of his post), and 1/3 to 1/2 are about trashing DeSantis and/or his supporters. The rest are almost all just saying how wonderful Trump is and how glorious it is to bask in his presence.

DeSantis supporters are more focused on their candidate, except we have Trump tossed in our face every 5 minutes. Kind of hard to forget about him when people want to scream "TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP" over and over and over again.
Personally I find it fascinating that there are hardly any Trump posts actually showing Trump speaking and reacting to it. Most of them are DeSantis folks posting Trump screwing up yet again and no one defends him. Just moves back to polls or attacks on DeSantis on super important stuff like him wearing cowboy boots.

I mean Trump says some good things. He has some good positions. It's just staggering that doesn't seem to matter.



You CONVENIENTLY left off that he once ate pudding with his fingers. He also once had drinks...with girls...and didn't grab them by the P.

Oh, the yuge manatee!
I mean this is pretty riveting and relevant stuff here.



He'd almost make a great stand up comedian right now...except he's not making jokes...
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Tibbers said:

BD88 said:

willtackleforfood said:

Is Vegas good?

Nikki Haley Surges Past DeSantis in GOP Nomination Betting Odds, Trump Leads All

Poor Ron and his boots.
People may not like the polls but he cant even get a trend going in the right direction. These odds prove that. He needs a lift and not the ones in his boots.
No one likes him. He is a Benedict Arnold.


Calling a former JAG officer a BA?

What is this second grade?

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FTAG 2000 said:

Tibbers said:

BD88 said:

willtackleforfood said:

Is Vegas good?

Nikki Haley Surges Past DeSantis in GOP Nomination Betting Odds, Trump Leads All

Poor Ron and his boots.
People may not like the polls but he cant even get a trend going in the right direction. These odds prove that. He needs a lift and not the ones in his boots.
No one likes him. He is a Benedict Arnold.


Calling a former JAG officer a BA?

What is this second grade?
2nd grade is about the level of discourse we get from Trump supporters, because that is how Trump himself acts and they just repeat it.

In the world of Trump and MAGA, DeSantis is a traitor. Since Trump endorsed him in 2018, and claims he is the only reason DeSantis won, then Trump and MAGA all believe that DeSantis owes Trump a blood debt and fealty for life. For DeSantis to run against him, it is nothing shot of treason because after all, MAGA pledges its loyalty to Trump and only to Trump.
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FTAG 2000 said:

Tibbers said:

BD88 said:

willtackleforfood said:

Is Vegas good?

Nikki Haley Surges Past DeSantis in GOP Nomination Betting Odds, Trump Leads All

Poor Ron and his boots.
People may not like the polls but he cant even get a trend going in the right direction. These odds prove that. He needs a lift and not the ones in his boots.
No one likes him. He is a Benedict Arnold.


Calling a former JAG officer a BA?

What is this second grade?




No, just par for the course from the Trump/Ramaswamy camp.
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Tibbers said:

Ah, so polls used to be good but aren't now. Ok. And if voter turnout to meet the candidate at speech engagements was the determining factor in voter interest, we wouldn't have Biden as President currently.
A Trumper defending polling.

LMAO

For those who can't read a map or understand the Electoral College: this was the 2016 race based on "polls"



and ironically enough- will be the reality in 2024 if Trump is the nominee for a third time.
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FTAG 2000 said:

Tibbers said:

BD88 said:

willtackleforfood said:

Is Vegas good?

Nikki Haley Surges Past DeSantis in GOP Nomination Betting Odds, Trump Leads All

Poor Ron and his boots.
People may not like the polls but he cant even get a trend going in the right direction. These odds prove that. He needs a lift and not the ones in his boots.
No one likes him. He is a Benedict Arnold.


Calling a former JAG officer a BA?

What is this second grade?




On the bright side, he's finally given up the fake Vivek support and is just repeating Trump camp talking points, so at least he's transparent now.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

FTAG 2000 said:

Tibbers said:

BD88 said:

willtackleforfood said:

Is Vegas good?

Nikki Haley Surges Past DeSantis in GOP Nomination Betting Odds, Trump Leads All

Poor Ron and his boots.
People may not like the polls but he cant even get a trend going in the right direction. These odds prove that. He needs a lift and not the ones in his boots.
No one likes him. He is a Benedict Arnold.


Calling a former JAG officer a BA?

What is this second grade?




On the bright side, he's finally given up the fake Vivek support and is just repeating Trump camp talking points, so at least he's transparent now.
Well, tbh, it was transparent then, too.
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Reactions from realists when Trump makes repeated stupid claims: "That's insane, he could never do that, because it is not possible"

Trump appologists: "He's going to do it! You have TDS! REEEEE"

Later after the stupid claim never happened:

Realists: "See, take a look at the historical evidence of Trump being full of crap, and it is also just as ridiculous to take his current claims seriously"
Appologist:"HAHA, you think he was serious then? You have TDS, REEE.... But now he means it"
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Rapier108 said:

It is truly amazing how DeSantis lives rent free in Trump's head, and the head of MAGA.

MAGA rarely if ever talks about Trump; but they spend day after day after day parroting Trump's infantile insults at DeSantis and/or his supporters.

Heck, even on Free Republic tonight on the Trump live in Iowa thread, they only have around 100 posts (at the time of his post), and 1/3 to 1/2 are about trashing DeSantis and/or his supporters. The rest are almost all just saying how wonderful Trump is and how glorious it is to bask in his presence.

DeSantis supporters are more focused on their candidate, except we have Trump tossed in our face every 5 minutes. Kind of hard to forget about him when people want to scream "TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP" over and over and over again.
but at least we will get 5 more years of the Trumpers railing about how Biden stole two national elections
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I have never in my life seen a candidate speak so often about his past election campaigns as does Trump for SEVEN YEARS...

and I have been following politics since Dukakis began running for President in 1987.
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LMCane said:


It's so strange that the Trump supporters won't comment on this. Wonder why?
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Why not just call them trumpets?
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Tibbers said:

Why not just call them trumpets?
A "rose" by any other name? But seriously, is this yet another "Desantis supporters are elitist" attempt? Just because Trump has very little to support his support, it doesn't mean those who don't buy into it are elitist. We just really can't fathom why someone would listen to Trump's own words, be aware of his history and the current environment, and still make claims as though none of it existed or it doesn't matter. We aren't the ones completely ignoring the evidence.
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Phatbob said:

Tibbers said:

Why not just call them trumpets?
A "rose" by any other name? But seriously, is this yet another "Desantis supporters are elitist" attempt? Just because Trump has very little to support his support, it doesn't mean those who don't buy into it are elitist. We just really can't fathom why someone would listen to Trump's own words, be aware of his history and the current environment, and still make claims as though none of it existed or it doesn't matter. We aren't the ones completely ignoring the evidence.
I would rather be part of the elite than part of the uneducated ignoramus mass of humanity.

since when is it an insult in the Republican party to be "elite"

was Reagan not elite!?!

but sure, let's just construct a society based on the dregs at leftist rallies in Portland.
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Tibbers said:

Why not just call them trumpets?
Not a fan of personal insults or nicknames actually. I'm the one who has told DeSantis supporters to avoid using the "C" word in regards to Trump supporters. Folks love insulting me all the time here though, I just laugh it off as it is just a sign of a weak argument.
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This is the Trump campaign folks. I mean if you love this stuff I guess he is your guy.

DeSantis wears cowboy boots. Anyone that wears cowboy boots and actually looks at the picture they are trying to mock up can tell they are normal cowboy boots. They do this drawing with a woman's boot to make up some weird story about his height. When asked he says he is 5'11. Pictures next to him and Trump show that is about accurate. All of this is a complete distraction and waste of time of course and has nothing to do with the campaign.

Yet what does Trump have his folks do? Push the lie. Then push it again. Then pull a stupid stunt like this. Truth doesn't matter. Issues don't matter. Nope, it's all about coming up with some bizarre hit on DeSantis to insinuate that he is short. This is the level of discourse from their campaign.

A 12 year old is more mature than these people.



BTW DeSantis had an outstanding interview otherwise where he discussed issues in depth and answered hard questions. I mean who cares about that though?

Just remember when we lose and the country continues to go down the crapper who you supported. It's your choice. Do you want to solve problems or do you want the clown show? Oh, and btw, know the Dems and MSM are going to come after Trump 100x harder than this if he is the nominee. He's a much easier target and so far they are doing all they can to suppress the images of him now showing his age.

We live in stupid times.

BTW:


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The actual interview:




Best clip of them all imo.

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It's incredible just how utterly braindead the Trump die-hards actually sound. None of them sound genuine or have a single good thing to share about Trump; all they can do is screech TDS and mock DeSantis in whatever way Trump tells them to.
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You're looking for logic from a group who LOATHES the Trumpcine yet ignores the fact that Trump still touts it as one of his greatest achievements. They hate Faucci, yet he was most empowered by Trump. They go on and on about what a doddering old fool Biden is, yet ignore that Trump is 80 and faltering.

In short, they hate everyone that Trump himself empowered and somehow find a way to leave him blameless for it.

Hey, but Desantis' boots....
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BigBrother said:

You're looking for logic from a group who LOATHES the Trumpcine yet ignores the fact that Trump still touts it as one of his greatest achievements. They hate Faucci, yet he was most empowered by Trump. They go on and on about what a doddering old fool Biden is, yet ignore that Trump is 80 and faltering.

In short, they hate everyone that Trump himself empowered and somehow find a way to leave him blameless for it.

Hey, but Desantis' boots....
I disagree. I think some are like that and anything Trump says or does is gospel. I think a LOT of folks just like Trump but don't realize how his messaging has changed or they forgot the stuff they didn't like. I don't think most people want this, I think they want someone to fight for them and work for them. Trump did that at one time but this is the side they don't like and try to ignore. I doubt many defend this.
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Why does it matter? Because these are the same people who will run around insisting that Trump lost based on fraudulent ballots. If this is the kind of "proof" that they will buy for something as stupid as DeSantis' boots, do you think it makes the other claims sound reasonable? People's eyes have already started rolling before they even finished opening their mouths, and you want them to take you seriously about election fraud?

If you want the serious issues to be taken seriously, don't put the freaking clowns in charge.
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Trump has brought a full Jerry Springer experience to politics, and unfortunately there are still a ton of morons in this country (and on this board) who like that type of entertainment and are now excited to be able to see it in politics too. They'll laugh at the jr. high level insults without realizing they are single-handedly handing all three branches of the government to the left in '24.

I still have hope they just represent a very small but vocal online minority of both complete idiots and shameless grifters like Poso and Kari Lake and the primaries surprise us, but who knows.
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CREAg87 said:

It's incredible just how utterly braindead the Trump die-hards actually sound. None of them sound genuine or have a single good thing to share about Trump; all they can do is screech TDS and mock DeSantis in whatever way Trump tells them to.
Brother, half the stuff posted on here is screeching and mocking Trump. The boots thing on its face is dumb, but his reactions to it are quite interesting. Do you really believe his team had no idea this boot thing has been out there? Come on now. Just google it and you'll get pages of articles from all sorts of sources all talking about this thing. His team had to have known. It's alright to laugh at yourself. Running for office is about impression to voters just as much as it is policy. While some of what Desantis supports is good, he isn't winning the impression battle and love em or hate em but the dyed in the wool MAGA folk are just not going to ever support Desantis. Bill Maher shredded Desantis on that point a month ago. It's just not going to happen. The only path forward for Desantis is if Trump is put in jail. That's it.
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Phatbob said:

Why does it matter? Because these are the same people who will run around insisting that Trump lost based on fraudulent ballots. If this is the kind of "proof" that they will buy for something as stupid as DeSantis' boots, do you think it makes the other claims sound reasonable? People's eyes have already started rolling before they even finished opening their mouths, and you want them to take you seriously about election fraud?

If you want the serious issues to be taken seriously, don't put the freaking clowns in charge.
But election fraud did happen.

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Tibbers said:

CREAg87 said:

It's incredible just how utterly braindead the Trump die-hards actually sound. None of them sound genuine or have a single good thing to share about Trump; all they can do is screech TDS and mock DeSantis in whatever way Trump tells them to.
Brother, half the stuff posted on here is screeching and mocking Trump. The boots thing on its face is dumb, but his reactions to it are quite interesting. Do you really believe his team had no idea this boot thing has been out there? Come on now. Just google it and you'll get pages of articles from all sorts of sources all talking about this thing. His team had to have known. It's alright to laugh at yourself. Running for office is about impression to voters just as much as it is policy. While some of what Desantis supports is good, he isn't winning the impression battle and love em or hate em but the dyed in the wool MAGA folk are just not going to ever support Desantis. Bill Maher shredded Desantis on that point a month ago. It's just not going to happen. The only path forward for Desantis is if Trump is put in jail. That's it.
DeSantis just isn't going to play the game and acknowledge the childish insults. He doesn't take the bait on the personal attacks on Trump either. He's a serious person who actually cares about solving problems and issues. He also knows that folks like Maher or people that bring up idiocy like this are fickle and just looking for him to engage so they can make up something new.

I will admit though if what you care about is image and who looks coolest or the most polished but DGAF about issues or results then DeSantis isn't your guy.
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Tibbers said:

Phatbob said:

Why does it matter? Because these are the same people who will run around insisting that Trump lost based on fraudulent ballots. If this is the kind of "proof" that they will buy for something as stupid as DeSantis' boots, do you think it makes the other claims sound reasonable? People's eyes have already started rolling before they even finished opening their mouths, and you want them to take you seriously about election fraud?

If you want the serious issues to be taken seriously, don't put the freaking clowns in charge.
But election fraud did happen.


I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm saying if you want people to believe that it happened and to do something about it, you shouldn't have your representative for fighting it be Art Bell.
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