OFFICIAL ****Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis*** thread...

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In reply to Tibbers • 8:39a, 10/25/23
the ACTUAL title of this thread is "DeSantis versus Trump"

if you want to prop up Ramaswamy start your own thread.

and now back to the thread-

'boy that DeSantis is so strange, compared to the completely normal Orange Man who we haven't seen his wife in 3 years, or his daughter, and everyone who knows him turns on him in court, and sure he is a billionaire who flips off protestors and posts crazy rants in the middle of the night, but Trump is like Jesus!"

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11:50a, 10/25/23
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"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

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In reply to LMCane • 12:00p, 10/25/23
LMCane said:
the ACTUAL title of this thread is "DeSantis versus Trump"

if you want to prop up Ramaswamy start your own thread.

and now back to the thread-

'boy that DeSantis is so strange, compared to the completely normal Orange Man who we haven't seen his wife in 3 years, or his daughter, and everyone who knows him turns on him in court, and sure he is a billionaire who flips off protestors and posts crazy rants in the middle of the night, but Trump is like Jesus!"



I can see the next Loomer "Truth":

"DEathSantis loses to wife, who is mad at the affair I exposed last week. Sad. "
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12:12p, 10/25/23
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Apparently DeSantis raised over $1 million in the 24 hours after announcing his fundraising number and another $500k at an event in Boston a couple of days ago. Crowds are growing and Sununu looks like he is very close to endorsing. Yet Trump's campaign is saying it is already over for DeSantis as Trump is having to prop up his fundraising numbers by transferring money around and his crowds are getting smaller and smaller in the few events he is doing.

It just doesn't add up and it makes less and less sense. Trump candidates got crushed in a special election in Tennessee yesterday as well.

I keep looking for signs that the polls really are true and Trump is running away with it but outside of polls and talking heads it's just not there.
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In reply to aggie93 • 12:23p, 10/25/23
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I keep looking for signs that the polls really are true and Trump is running away with it but outside of polls and talking heads it's just not there.


Your moderate concern is noted.

They.
Are.
Polls.


The most scientific method ever conceived!!!1
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In reply to aggie93 • 12:52p, 10/25/23
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aggie93 said:

Asked about the launch of the accident tracker, Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung called it a "weak, ***** move by a dying campaign."
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In reply to aggie93 • 1:18p, 10/25/23
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Sounds like they're over the target.
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4:49p, 10/25/23
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"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

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9:15p, 10/25/23
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This is part of the ground game. DeSantis makes himself very accessible, he hits a ton of events, and he gets a ton of local coverage. This stuff doesn't get big coverage on Twitter or in the national media but in small states like Iowa and NH it matters. It also matters that DeSantis is glued to Sununu and Reynolds who are very popular there.

We will see if it pays off.


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10:50p, 10/25/23
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1:23a, 10/26/23
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In reply to TRM • 8:04a, 10/26/23
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TRM said:
Trump has worked very hard to push Reynolds and Sununu to openly endorse DeSantis. They were fine with staying neutral but he is forcing their hand with the attacks. It's been an interesting strategy.
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In reply to aggie93 • 8:17a, 10/26/23
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Trump has worked very hard to push Reynolds and Sununu to openly endorse DeSantis. They were fine with staying neutral but he is forcing their hand with the attacks. It's been an interesting strategy.
Then he'll play the victim, anger, and revenge cards against both of them, knowing those are the things that keep his base stirred up and loyal.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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9:42a, 10/26/23
Trump devout supporters on a Trump slate in Tennessee lost their election tuesday in a +26 GOP district

Trump backed Jim Jordan - who then lost worse each time there was a vote

Trump had backed McCarthy

Laura Loomer attacks Matt Gaetz as a backstabbing traitor on Wednesday

Trump in court facing Michael Cohen in one trial

Jenna Ellis turns states' evidence against Trump

Mark Meadows turns states' evidence against Trump

yep- Trumpism is ascendant!
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In reply to LMCane • 9:46a, 10/26/23
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Quote:
Laura Loomer attacks Matt Gaetz as a backstabbing traitor on Wednesday

What happened here?
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In reply to LMCane • 9:48a, 10/26/23
LMCane said:
Trump devout supporters on a Trump slate in Tennessee lost their election tuesday in a +26 GOP district

Trump backed Jim Jordan - who then lost worse each time there was a vote

Trump had backed McCarthy

Laura Loomer attacks Matt Gaetz as a backstabbing traitor on Wednesday

Trump in court facing Michael Cohen in one trial

Jenna Ellis turns states' evidence against Trump

Mark Meadows turns states' evidence against Trump

yep- Trumpism is ascendant!
Rough week for Trump and his minions.
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In reply to Rapier108 • 10:09a, 10/26/23
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Rapier108 said:
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Trump has worked very hard to push Reynolds and Sununu to openly endorse DeSantis. They were fine with staying neutral but he is forcing their hand with the attacks. It's been an interesting strategy.
Then he'll play the victim, anger, and revenge cards against both of them, knowing those are the things that keep his base stirred up and loyal.
And then anyone that supports anyone but Trump will go from lifelong conservative to a CM, Laura Loomer will attack them, and Trump's minions will parrot all the talking points on here.
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In reply to LMCane • 10:10a, 10/26/23
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LMCane said:
Trump devout supporters on a Trump slate in Tennessee lost their election tuesday in a +26 GOP district

Trump backed Jim Jordan - who then lost worse each time there was a vote

Trump had backed McCarthy

Laura Loomer attacks Matt Gaetz as a backstabbing traitor on Wednesday

Trump in court facing Michael Cohen in one trial

Jenna Ellis turns states' evidence against Trump

Mark Meadows turns states' evidence against Trump

yep- Trumpism is ascendant!
Trump's strategy is trying to jump on both sides of every battle so that he can take the credit and blame others. It's not subtle but somehow a lot of folks can't see it. It's amazing.

Then of course you have stuff like this. Kelly has done some great work on Court reporting for Jan 6 and the Whitmer trials but the blind loyalty and way that they simply accept that Trump not only has a different set of rules than everyone else, those rules must be respected by everyone else.


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In reply to Captn_Ag05 • 10:12a, 10/26/23
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Rapier108 said:
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Trump has worked very hard to push Reynolds and Sununu to openly endorse DeSantis. They were fine with staying neutral but he is forcing their hand with the attacks. It's been an interesting strategy.
Then he'll play the victim, anger, and revenge cards against both of them, knowing those are the things that keep his base stirred up and loyal.
And then anyone that supports anyone but Trump will go from lifelong conservative to a CM, Laura Loomer will attack them, and Trump's minions will parrot all the talking points on here.
Yep and all the while, in those rare policy discussions, they will attack from the left.

Trumpers live in an upside down world. They are the ones with questionable conservatism. They seem to be more into demagoguery
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In reply to Old May Banker • 10:36a, 10/26/23
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I know she attacked him on Tuesday for supporting Emmer. I don't know about yesterday.
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In reply to ttu_85 • 10:58a, 10/26/23
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ttu_85 said:
Captn_Ag05 said:
Rapier108 said:
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Trump has worked very hard to push Reynolds and Sununu to openly endorse DeSantis. They were fine with staying neutral but he is forcing their hand with the attacks. It's been an interesting strategy.
Then he'll play the victim, anger, and revenge cards against both of them, knowing those are the things that keep his base stirred up and loyal.
And then anyone that supports anyone but Trump will go from lifelong conservative to a CM, Laura Loomer will attack them, and Trump's minions will parrot all the talking points on here.
Yep and all the while, in those rare policy discussions, they will attack from the left.

Trumpers live in an upside down world. They are the ones with questionable conservatism. They seem to be more into demagoguery
What else can be said. A significant portion of MAGA (rightly) is skeptical or outright hateful of the COVID vax. Yet Trump, in their minds, had no part in it. When it's convenient, he was unable because of the deep-state, but when he's back, he'll clean up the deep state.
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11:00a, 10/26/23
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Latest high brow issue based policy discussion from Team Trump:


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In reply to aggie93 • 11:06a, 10/26/23
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They spend an awful lot of time trashing RDS on non-political crap for a group of folks that claims to want strong conservative leaders and thinks they're 50 points ahead in polling.

Makes zero sense.
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In reply to aggie93 • 11:11a, 10/26/23
aggie93 said:
Latest high brow issue based policy discussion from Team Trump:

Sadly, this is the mentality of MAGA.

They see antics worthy of 5 years old in the sandbox as "winning."
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to TRM • 11:39a, 10/26/23
I'm going to attend that
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11:43a, 10/26/23
discord in TrumpWorld

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In reply to aggie93 • 11:44a, 10/26/23
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Holy crap, was that done by ChatGPT? I'm all for some poking fun, but that was sad, and Trumpers should demand better in their memes.
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In reply to LMCane • 12:15p, 10/26/23
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How anyone defends that nonsense is beyond my compression.

This is not 2015.
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In reply to Phatbob • 12:18p, 10/26/23
Phatbob said:
Holy crap, was that done by ChatGPT? I'm all for some poking fun, but that was sad, and Trumpers should demand better in their memes.
ChatGPT has more intelligence than Loomer.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to LMCane • 12:22p, 10/26/23
I'm confused on the Mike Johnson thread you were deriding Gaetz.
Here you are deriding someone for deriding Gaetz.

Odd. How is your fence tearing down business going?
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In reply to Phatbob • 12:25p, 10/26/23
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Phatbob said:
Holy crap, was that done by ChatGPT? I'm all for some poking fun, but that was sad, and Trumpers should demand better in their memes.
That's actually better quality than a lot of the stuff out there among the Trump folks. Just look at some of the comments.

There is no talk of issues or governance, it's all low brow insults and memes and then folks like Julie Kelly clutching pearls that DeSantis made a mild joke about Trump needing a teleprompter. It's all part of the plan where they play both sides of every issue. It works so long as the Media lets them but that ends the moment he has the nomination secured. My favorite part is how they use MSNBC clips to bag on DeSantis while saying DeSantis is using Dem talking points against Trump.
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4:40p, 10/26/23
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Very inspirational stuff here. I mean I can definitely see how DeSantis saying Trump can bring his Teleprompter is way out of line but this is fine.



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6:40p, 10/26/23
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It's a choice. What do you want the election to be about? Who do you think is focused on leading the country and solving problems? What message is going to resonate with voters to beat the Democrats? Choose as you will but make a conscious choice with your eyes open.


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In reply to aggie93 • 6:44p, 10/26/23
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Sadly, they have no interest in much besides "revenge" and "owning" people on social media. Anyone that disagrees is a CM, rino, squishy republican.
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In reply to Old May Banker • 6:58p, 10/26/23
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Old May Banker said:
Sadly, they have no interest in much besides "revenge" and "owning" people on social media. Anyone that disagrees is a CM, rino, squishy republican.


Agreed. Trump voters don't really care about wining the election. At this point they're just voting for him out of spite and to rub it in the eye of the "anti-Trump people" (especially DeSantis supporters.
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