OFFICIAL ****Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis*** thread...

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Rapier108
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8:11a, 10/20/23
Poll trolling is getting old.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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8:29a, 10/20/23
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More than 40 percent of that poll is online and they oversampled the South. Don't have time to look over the other problems.
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10:02a, 10/20/23
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In reply to Rapier108 • 11:48a, 10/20/23
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Rapier108 said:
Poll trolling is getting old.


That's all they have these days.
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12:03p, 10/20/23
Just joined the Veterans for DeSantis Committee

All vets who support RD for President
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In reply to BD88 • 12:37p, 10/20/23
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LOL!!
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12:45p, 10/20/23
Today Donald Trump is truly a tremendous leader and very popular:

Sidney Powell - pled guilty to six misdemeanors to testify against Trump.
Kenneth Chesebro- pled guilty to five misdemeanors to testify against Trump.
Jim Jordan- lost a third straight vote for Speaker after being endorsed by Trump.

behold the power of Mar-A-Lago!
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In reply to LMCane • 12:47p, 10/20/23
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LMCane said:
Today Donald Trump is truly a tremendous leader and very popular:

Sidney Powell - pled guilty to six misdemeanors to testify against Trump.
Kenneth Chesebro- pled guilty to five misdemeanors to testify against Trump.
Jim Jordan- lost a third straight vote for Speaker after being endorsed by Trump.

behold the power of Mar-A-Lago!
Testifying truthfully is not the same as "testifying against Trump." Had they really had information against Trump, it would have been immunity deals, not plea deals.
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Rapier108
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In reply to LMCane • 1:21p, 10/20/23
The Jordan thing has nothing to do with Trump, other than it was one of his MAGA acolytes who started the whole thing.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to Rapier108 • 1:26p, 10/20/23
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Jordan is still an election denier and holds donald's water. Not all Republicans agree with him and believes there should be some retribution for his actions.
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In reply to agz win • 1:27p, 10/20/23
Go troll elsewhere.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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1:29p, 10/20/23
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Did I push in too deep? Prove me wrong.
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In reply to Rapier108 • 2:16p, 10/20/23
Rapier108 said:
The Jordan thing has nothing to do with Trump, other than it was one of his MAGA acolytes who started the whole thing.


How DARE you try and limit the power of the Trump!?!?!?
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In reply to Rapier108 • 2:49p, 10/20/23
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The Jordan thing has nothing to do with Trump, other than it was one of his MAGA acolytes who started the whole thing.
I would disagree

Trump literally came out of his bunker and endorsed Jordan for Speaker.

AFTER his boy Gaetz put all this into motion.
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In reply to agz win • 2:56p, 10/20/23
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agz win said:
Jordan is still an election denier and holds donald's water. Not all Republicans agree with him and believes there should be some retribution for his actions.
"Election Denier" is probably one of the most overrused terms in politics today. Honestly it could apply to most members of both parties because it is so general.

Contesting an election is not denying an election. When you had many Democrats that refused to come to Trump's inauguration over the explicit reason that they considered him illegitimately elected though? Now that's election denial.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
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2:57p, 10/20/23
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Everyone is a RINO and we should burn it all down... unless Trump gets the nomination. Then we need to show solidarity and vote for him.

I think I got that right.
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In reply to aggie93 • 2:59p, 10/20/23
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aggie93 said:
agz win said:
Jordan is still an election denier and holds donald's water. Not all Republicans agree with him and believes there should be some retribution for his actions.
"Election Denier" is probably one of the most overrused terms in politics today. Honestly it could apply to most members of both parties because it is so general.

Contesting an election is not denying an election. When you had many Democrats that refused to come to Trump's inauguration over the explicit reason that they considered him illegitimately elected though? Now that's election denial.
Fake electors, trying to pressure your VP to send the vote back to States, disparaging the voting machine company, never conceding, the Jan 6th shenanigans, etc... is not on par with people not going to an inauguration.
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In reply to GeorgiAg • 3:04p, 10/20/23
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GeorgiAg said:
aggie93 said:
agz win said:
Jordan is still an election denier and holds donald's water. Not all Republicans agree with him and believes there should be some retribution for his actions.
"Election Denier" is probably one of the most overrused terms in politics today. Honestly it could apply to most members of both parties because it is so general.

Contesting an election is not denying an election. When you had many Democrats that refused to come to Trump's inauguration over the explicit reason that they considered him illegitimately elected though? Now that's election denial.
Fake electors, trying to pressure your VP to send the vote back to States, disparaging the voting machine company, never conceding, the Jan 6th shenanigans, etc... is not on par with people not going to an inauguration.
We are talking about Jordan in this context not Trump. My greater point though is that you can call a lot of folks "Election Deniers" it just depends on your definition. The term just doesn't have much meaning anymore.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
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In reply to GeorgiAg • 3:06p, 10/20/23
AG


#notmypresident
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In reply to Old May Banker • 3:08p, 10/20/23
Old May Banker said:
Everyone is a RINO and we should burn it all down... unless Trump gets the nomination. Then we need to show solidarity and vote for him.

I think I got that right.


In today's political realm, you nailed it.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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3:11p, 10/20/23
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In reply to TRM • 3:11p, 10/20/23
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There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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4:27p, 10/20/23
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"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
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In reply to aggie93 • 5:29p, 10/20/23
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He endorsed him for the same reason Trump supports anyone. Whoever sucks up to him the most. Policy and ideology don't matter to Trump.
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5:34p, 10/20/23
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I think Trump also intentionally endorses non-conservative/fringe/outsider R's as an ego trip, in attempts to prove that just his endorsement can get anyone elected. In other words, even though the candidate is not who R's should be voting for, if Emperor Trump bestows his endorsement on them and they win then that's proof of how powerful he is.

Everything....every...single...thing...he does is designed to boost his ego.
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5:58p, 10/20/23
"Trump supporters are cultists"
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In reply to FL_Ag1998 • 5:59p, 10/20/23
FL_Ag1998 said:
I think Trump also intentionally endorses non-conservative/fringe/outsider R's as an ego trip, in attempts to prove that just his endorsement can get anyone elected. In other words, even though the candidate is not who R's should be voting for, if Emperor Trump bestows his endorsement on them and they win then that's proof of how powerful he is.

Everything....every...single...thing...he does is designed to boost his ego.
And when they lose, he blames fraud, and/or throws the candidate under the bus with various infantile nicknames, followed by saying they were always a loser.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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7:00p, 10/20/23
AG
When does ron make his move?
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In reply to BD88 • 7:46p, 10/20/23
Is coming over here to troll what you do when there is no football to talk about?
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to Rapier108 • 7:48p, 10/20/23
AG
When? You a moderator?

All these amazing meet and greets and….nothing.
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7:59p, 10/20/23
AG
My heavens this thread is insane. Dems hate Trump, we get that.

Pretending to be DeSantis supporters and dissing anyone who says they are weighing it, trying to decide are automatically to be treated like crap?

We know who the real GOP supporters are because of this thread. We alo know who are the Dems.

Check their post count on this thread. They made a choice. Few of them support DeSantis nor will vote for him.

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In reply to GeorgiAg • 8:41p, 10/20/23
GeorgiAg said:
aggie93 said:
agz win said:
Jordan is still an election denier and holds donald's water. Not all Republicans agree with him and believes there should be some retribution for his actions.
"Election Denier" is probably one of the most overrused terms in politics today. Honestly it could apply to most members of both parties because it is so general.

Contesting an election is not denying an election. When you had many Democrats that refused to come to Trump's inauguration over the explicit reason that they considered him illegitimately elected though? Now that's election denial.
Fake electors, trying to pressure your VP to send the vote back to States, disparaging the voting machine company, never conceding, the Jan 6th shenanigans, etc... is not on par with people not going to an inauguration.
Would you say creating a fake dossier that claims your opponent won because of help from the Russians to be election denial? The election was illegitimate due to the "obstruction" and shenanigans of the Russians, right?
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8:53p, 10/20/23
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Take this thread derail elsewhere.
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In reply to FL_Ag1998 • 8:54p, 10/20/23
FL_Ag1998 said:
I think Trump also intentionally endorses non-conservative/fringe/outsider R's as an ego trip, in attempts to prove that just his endorsement can get anyone elected. In other words, even though the candidate is not who R's should be voting for, if Emperor Trump bestows his endorsement on them and they win then that's proof of how powerful he is.

Everything....every...single...thing...he does is designed to boost his ego.
As long as you ignore the 90% of the time his endorsed candidate loses, his endorsement works every time!
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In reply to UAS Ag • 9:00p, 10/20/23
UAS Ag said:
FL_Ag1998 said:
I think Trump also intentionally endorses non-conservative/fringe/outsider R's as an ego trip, in attempts to prove that just his endorsement can get anyone elected. In other words, even though the candidate is not who R's should be voting for, if Emperor Trump bestows his endorsement on them and they win then that's proof of how powerful he is.

Everything....every...single...thing...he does is designed to boost his ego.
As long as you ignore the 90% of the time his endorsed candidate loses, his endorsement works every time!
Actually most of his endorsed candidates win, because he loves to endorse people who are going to win regardless of what he does. When someone is running in the R+25 district or state, Trump's endorsement is meaningless, other than it might cost the Republican a few % points. He does this and then claims that almost all of "his" candidates won when in reality he had nothing to do with it.

That said, in the races where it is going to be close, he pushes the worst possible candidates (Lake, Walker, Oz, etc.) and they all get smoked. He also will demand Republican voters get rid of someone in the primary because the incumbent didn't show Trump "loyalty" and then the MAGA candidate gets smoked in a district which is at least classified as "lean Republican."
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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