OFFICIAL ****Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis*** thread...

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BD88 said:

Gotta win your home state…right?





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pollster Tony Fabrizio, who conducted the survey for a private political client. Fabrizio also surveys for the pro-Trump super PAC, but other pollsters say his Florida numbers jibe with the trend lines of the race.


In other words,

1) this dubious poll matches the results of other dubious polls and the overall Trump/liberal media narrative
2) it was conducted by a pro-Trump pollster on behalf of pro-Trump sources

But otherwise, you're right. Its hopeless for DeSantis.
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BD88 said:

Gotta win your home state…right?




Literally says "Pro Trump Pollster" in the tweet.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

BD88 said:

Gotta win your home state…right?




Literally says "Pro Trump Pollster" in the tweet.
Glad you saw it along with everyone else. You gotta win your home state…right?
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BD88 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

BD88 said:

Gotta win your home state…right?




Literally says "Pro Trump Pollster" in the tweet.
Glad you saw it along with everyone else. You gotta win your home state…right?


Yes, thank you for that brilliant analysis. Luckily elections are decided by voters and not by polls run by lackeys for one of the candidates.
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Fabrizio was the campaign pollster, but he put out 1 bad poll for Trump, so they moved him out to the super-PAC polling. He knows what he has to do.
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Trump's campaign numbers are out. I doubt it was $45M for just his campaign alone. I think Bonchie is correct that it's including PAC numbers. We'll see when the reports are available Oct 15th. But DeSantis and Never Back Down have about $100M cash on hand and Trump's burn rate is high with the legal fees.

Side note: There are quite a few Congressional candidates that are raising for the candidate AND Trump. For example, Mayra Flores campaign texted me and asked for a donation. When I clicked on the link, the fine print says a portion goes to the Flores and a portion to Trump's Save America join fundraising committee. This is another way Trump could be getting donations from people that don't realize it.

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Some more context on Trump's fundraising.


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Every single thing trump does is smoke and mirrors. Every. Single. Thing.
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The Daily Trump is Likely Having a Mental Breakdown When He Posts Insane Rants:

"I'm in a rat's nest of NEW YORK DEMOCRAT CORRUPTION, a reason so many companies are leaving New York, our Racist Attorney General filled a lawsuit whose facts and VALUATIONS are wrong, like $18,000,000 for Mar-a-Lago, when it is worth, perhaps, 100 times that amount, and numerous other properties, likewise, that this case is a political SHAM that should never have been brought. I DON'T EVEN GET A JURY Therefore, a Radical Left Judge, who came up through Democrat Club System, will decide. It is not possible that he can be fair. Every decision he makes has been a horror show. It is why I do the set asides with the media To explain the case, and what is going on. Our CORRUPT, RACIST, & INCOMPETENT A.G., Letitia "Peekaboo" James, considered the WORST ATTORNEY GENERAL IN THE UNITED STATES, refused to bring this case under the respected "Commercial Division," where judges understand Valuations and Real Estate. This Trump Hating Judge doesn't. The Appellant Division must intercede, NOW!"

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TRM said:

Some more context on Trump's fundraising.





so when will we be able to see the REAL numbers for Cash on Hand with all the campaigns?

why is this so hard to do?

only the USG could be so @#$#@$ stupid to not just have a form like this:

total money raised in quarter:

total money cash on hand remaining in your campaign:
LMCane
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More bad news for Trump:

The office of the special counsel, Jack Smith, has questioned witnesses about Giuliani's alcohol consumption as he was advising Trump, including on election night, according to a person familiar with the matter. Smith's investigators have also asked about Trump's level of awareness of his lawyer's drinking...

The answers to those prompts could complicate any efforts by Trump's team to lean on a so-called advice-of-counsel defense, a strategy that could portray him as a client merely taking professional cues from his lawyers.

If such guidance came from someone whom Trump knew to be compromised by alcohol, especially when many others told Trump definitively that he had lost, his argument could weaken.

In interviews and in testimony to Congress, several people at the White House on election night the evening when Giuliani urged Trump to declare victory despite the results have said that the former mayor appeared to be drunk, slurring and carrying an odor of alcohol.

"The mayor was definitely intoxicated," Jason Miller, a top Trump adviser and a veteran of Giuliani's 2008 presidential campaign, told the congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol in a deposition early last year.

"But I do not know his level of intoxication when he spoke with the president." (Giuliani furiously denied this account and condemned Miller, who had spoken glowingly of him in public, in vicious terms.)

Giuliani Drinking Problems Make it Harder for Trump to claim defenses
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How's Trump doing in New York state?

Oh yeah, he moved to Florida.

funny though, that Trump claims repeatedly New York under Cuomo was better than Florida under DeSantis.

hmm.. seems illogical.
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LMCane said:

The Daily Trump is Likely Having a Mental Breakdown When He Posts Insane Rants:

"I'm in a rat's nest of NEW YORK DEMOCRAT CORRUPTION, a reason so many companies are leaving New York, our Racist Attorney General filled a lawsuit whose facts and VALUATIONS are wrong, like $18,000,000 for Mar-a-Lago, when it is worth, perhaps, 100 times that amount, and numerous other properties, likewise, that this case is a political SHAM that should never have been brought. I DON'T EVEN GET A JURY Therefore, a Radical Left Judge, who came up through Democrat Club System, will decide. It is not possible that he can be fair. Every decision he makes has been a horror show. It is why I do the set asides with the media To explain the case, and what is going on. Our CORRUPT, RACIST, & INCOMPETENT A.G., Letitia "Peekaboo" James, considered the WORST ATTORNEY GENERAL IN THE UNITED STATES, refused to bring this case under the respected "Commercial Division," where judges understand Valuations and Real Estate. This Trump Hating Judge doesn't. The Appellant Division must intercede, NOW!"



What's the intended meaning of the "Peekaboo" nickname (besides dementia)?
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In Trumpland, making up insulting names for opponents/enemies and their supporters is "winning." It has been his shtick long before he ran for President.

Don't ask me to actually explain the rationale behind that belief because there isn't one.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Anyone who questions Trumps brilliant and hilarious nicknames for people is a CM.
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Captn_Ag05 said:

Anyone who questions Trumps brilliant and hilarious nicknames for people is a CM.
And has TDS.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Counterpoint said:

LMCane said:

The Daily Trump is Likely Having a Mental Breakdown When He Posts Insane Rants:

"I'm in a rat's nest of NEW YORK DEMOCRAT CORRUPTION, a reason so many companies are leaving New York, our Racist Attorney General filled a lawsuit whose facts and VALUATIONS are wrong, like $18,000,000 for Mar-a-Lago, when it is worth, perhaps, 100 times that amount, and numerous other properties, likewise, that this case is a political SHAM that should never have been brought. I DON'T EVEN GET A JURY Therefore, a Radical Left Judge, who came up through Democrat Club System, will decide. It is not possible that he can be fair. Every decision he makes has been a horror show. It is why I do the set asides with the media To explain the case, and what is going on. Our CORRUPT, RACIST, & INCOMPETENT A.G., Letitia "Peekaboo" James, considered the WORST ATTORNEY GENERAL IN THE UNITED STATES, refused to bring this case under the respected "Commercial Division," where judges understand Valuations and Real Estate. This Trump Hating Judge doesn't. The Appellant Division must intercede, NOW!"



What's the intended meaning of the "Peekaboo" nickname (besides dementia)?
He was going for a racial slur and whiffed.
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LMCane said:

The Daily Trump is Likely Having a Mental Breakdown When He Posts Insane Rants:

"I'm in a rat's nest of NEW YORK DEMOCRAT CORRUPTION, a reason so many companies are leaving New York, our Racist Attorney General filled a lawsuit whose facts and VALUATIONS are wrong, like $18,000,000 for Mar-a-Lago, when it is worth, perhaps, 100 times that amount, and numerous other properties, likewise, that this case is a political SHAM that should never have been brought. I DON'T EVEN GET A JURY Therefore, a Radical Left Judge, who came up through Democrat Club System, will decide. It is not possible that he can be fair. Every decision he makes has been a horror show. It is why I do the set asides with the media To explain the case, and what is going on. Our CORRUPT, RACIST, & INCOMPETENT A.G., Letitia "Peekaboo" James, considered the WORST ATTORNEY GENERAL IN THE UNITED STATES, refused to bring this case under the respected "Commercial Division," where judges understand Valuations and Real Estate. This Trump Hating Judge doesn't. The Appellant Division must intercede, NOW!"




If someone you knew posted something like this on social media you'd probably wonder what kind of drugs they were on or if they were having a mental breakdown and needed to be committed. Trump does it and it's either ignored or even celebrated by his lemming followers. What a weird time.
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That's not an "on drugs" post, that's a "Grampa saw something on Newsmax and now has no control over his stream of consciousness" post.
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If Trump is "62 points ahead"...

why am I being bombarded in the last two weeks with text messages begging for me to give money to different Trump groups?

I haven't given any money to any of his campaigns in three years.

and yet I get more texts from Trump than from Tim Scott (also have not donated to in years); Nikki Haley; Doug Burgum.

and more begging texts from Trump than from the ACTUAL CANDIDATE I SEND MONEY TO.
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LMCane said:

How's Trump doing in New York state?

Oh yeah, he moved to Florida.

funny though, that Trump claims repeatedly New York under Cuomo was better than Florida under DeSantis.

hmm.. seems illogical.

Lets look. If you have something better, i would like to see it.

New York



Florida


And I noticed someone "rolling over" again. Can you spot it?
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BD88 said:

LMCane said:

How's Trump doing in New York state?

Oh yeah, he moved to Florida.

funny though, that Trump claims repeatedly New York under Cuomo was better than Florida under DeSantis.

hmm.. seems illogical.

Lets look. If you have something better, i would like to see it.

New York



Florida


And I noticed someone "rolling over" again. Can you spot it?

This poll is trash. "Sienna college" who is that and note the numbers from the Aug 21-23 Fla poll two entries for the same day from the same source, "victory insights" with very different numbers.

Trumpers like dems always lying.

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FL_Ag1998 said:

Every single thing trump does is smoke and mirrors. Every. Single. Thing.
Yeah and his foolish tools lap it up like a drug. Remind me of far left Democrats in their methods.
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Captn_Ag05 said:

Anyone who questions Trumps brilliant and hilarious nicknames for people is a CM.
And...never mind they always attack from the left.
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ttu_85 said:

FL_Ag1998 said:

Every single thing trump does is smoke and mirrors. Every. Single. Thing.
Yeah and his foolish tools lap it up like a drug. Remind me of far left Democrats in their methods.
Well he's been a Democrat most of his life, so...
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ttu_85 said:

BD88 said:

LMCane said:

How's Trump doing in New York state?

Oh yeah, he moved to Florida.

funny though, that Trump claims repeatedly New York under Cuomo was better than Florida under DeSantis.

hmm.. seems illogical.

Lets look. If you have something better, i would like to see it.

New York



Florida


And I noticed someone "rolling over" again. Can you spot it?

This poll is trash. "Sienna college" who is that and not the numbers from the Aug 21-23 Fla pol two entries for the same day from the same source, "victory insights" with very different numbers.

Trumpers like dems always lying.


Of course…if it doesnt show ronnie is a positive light, its trash. If you have something better showing ronnie in NY or FL, as mentioned, show us. Rolling over.

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TRM said:




From another aeticle about this event.....

Quote:

Regarding the 2020 election, he said people were "voting against Trump," undercutting the ongoing lies about a stolen election from the former president and his supporters including failed congressional candidate Laura Loomer, who heckled DeSantis from outside his Tampa event with a bullhorn that rattled aides as her voice carried into the venue.


Its been pointed out numerous times here before, but WHAT. A. WHACK. JOB!

How embarrassing for a former President that his support has dwindled down to this.
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Trump's latest idiocy that will lose an election

and this will be happening EVERY WEEK if he is the nominee.

so GOP voters and the media and democrats who are backing Trump know that instead of debating Biden's economic failures- we will be forced to debate if Trump telling classified military secrets is a bad thing or a good thing

because just a ton of independents are going to vote for the guy who blabs about our nuclear submarine capability to his friends.
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She was yelling on her bullhorn during their prayer for fallen police officers.
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