OFFICIAL ****Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis*** thread...

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In reply to Old May Banker • 6:37p, 8/14/23
Old May Banker said:
Im Gipper said:
Must do what Orangemangod say. Must do.


There's plenty of the same on old f16 threads.
Yep, lots of people were singing DeSantis' praise until he decided to challenge the god king and then he became Satan incarnate who must be destroyed and ground to dust.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to aggie93 • 6:48p, 8/14/23
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Some of the pics of Trump when he isn't posing are looking terrible, this is a back shot of him and Loomer.

Thought that was Chris Christie for a minute.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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7:03p, 8/14/23
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Is that pic shopped or AI? If not, Trump looks even wore than I thought.
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7:04p, 8/14/23
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That pic has to be shopped....
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In reply to Old May Banker • 7:12p, 8/14/23
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Definitely photoshopped. He looked trimmed down by trainer and dietician in Iowa probably in anticipation for his cell mate.
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7:13p, 8/14/23
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7:20p, 8/14/23
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Much better answer than Vivek.
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7:22p, 8/14/23
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Team Trump doxxing people.
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In reply to agz win • 7:29p, 8/14/23
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He looked poor in that video with Loomer
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In reply to TRM • 7:29p, 8/14/23
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TRM said:
Much better answer than Vivek.


See what you don't get is that China will do exactly what Vivek tells them to do because he'll tell them, "Hey, I mean business!"
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7:33p, 8/14/23
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Nothing like fighting the swamp by following the advice of Dems.
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In reply to CREAg87 • 8:02p, 8/14/23
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CREAg87 said:
Is that pic shopped or AI? If not, Trump looks even wore than I thought.
Seeing that it may well have been shopped after all, my bad. He still didn't look great. I will edit the other pic.

This was the real pic but the bottom is edited.



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In reply to TRM • 9:22p, 8/14/23
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TRM said:
He looked poor in that video with Loomer


Wow. You're right. I agree and the aging really shows up. Stamina won't be far behind.
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In reply to agz win • 9:25p, 8/14/23
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TRM said:
He looked poor in that video with Loomer


Wow. You're right. I agree and the aging really shows up. Stamina won't be far behind.


He reminds of a geriatric one step away from 80 and two steps away from the nursing home. Wait...
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to agz win • 9:25p, 8/14/23
His stamina is long gone.

In 2016 and 2020 he held endless rallies and could go non-stop.

Now he does a few events a month, maybe one rally. The rest don't require him to do anything show up, stand around for while, maybe make a short speech to a room full of people, and then leave.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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9:28p, 8/14/23
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Trump looks a lot like my Dad at the same age, he started going down fast around then. Sorry but it's a valid topic and I am not at all convinced he is physically and mentally capable of handling the Presidency until he is 82. I think he could be a cool old man who still has spunk but that's not remotely the same thing. I'm even more concerned because the people around him suck and he will have to delegate a ton, no way he is putting in 14 hour days and mentally staying on top of everything.

Yes, I know Biden but that's only making my point.
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9:31p, 8/14/23
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No man can outrun father time.... he catches up to all at different ages, but anyone pretending an 80 year old is immune from it is disingenuous at best.
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In reply to Old May Banker • 9:35p, 8/14/23
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Undeniable truth. Everywhere, always.
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In reply to Old May Banker • 9:40p, 8/14/23
Old May Banker said:
No man can outrun father time.... he catches up to all at different ages, but anyone pretending an 80 year old is immune from it is disingenuous at best.


Best thing trump could have done is said a man his age has no business running for president. Gives himself good reason to bow out for the next generation and dunk on Biden simultaneously. Instead….
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In reply to The Banned • 9:41p, 8/14/23
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Completely agree.
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In reply to Rapier108 • 9:44p, 8/14/23
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His stamina is long gone.

In 2016 and 2020 he held endless rallies and could go non-stop.

Now he does a few events a month, maybe one rally. The rest don't require him to do anything show up, stand around for while, maybe make a short speech to a room full of people, and then leave.
Yet as self centered, "its all about me", as ever. I have no idea how a conservative can support this jack-ass after what he has done in the last 4 months. I'm all for him going away and letting true conservatives right the ship.
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11:49p, 8/14/23
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Full DeSantis interview on CNBC.
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9:45a, 8/15/23
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"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
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In reply to aggie93 • 9:47a, 8/15/23
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In reply to aggie93 • 9:48a, 8/15/23
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aggie93 said:

Where does he stand on the debt ceiling, and does he have the testicular fortitude to shut down the government, federal employees be damned, to get debt spending under control?
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10:05a, 8/15/23
I see DeSantis cutting spending overall but in one place he won't is Military/National Defense. I could see him actually increasing National Defense/Military Spending with the threat of China.
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10:07a, 8/15/23
Mark Meadows has not really attacked Trump before this- although Trump of course labeled him stupid and a failure (who isn't stupid and a failure hired by Trump over those four years?!)

but Meadows is not going to go to prison to protect Trump.

He is going to flip as well as Jenna Ellis.

Powell and Eastman and Giuliani and Clark may be willing to go to prison for Trump, but alot of those other conspirators will not.

they are going to testify against Trump.
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10:19a, 8/15/23
Even Biden if he wanted to (and he would have a lot of pressure from his left NEVER to pardon Trump)

even he can't pardon Trump for these Georgia indictments.

Even Governor Kemp can't pardon Trump

(not that he would want to either after Trump has literally campaigned against him and slanders him at every opportunity)

It certainly seems this Atlanta arrest will be Trump's most dangerous and have the best chance of sending him to jail.
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10:24a, 8/15/23
Trump's fundraisers for his legal teams now have EIGHTEEN ADDITIONAL defendants to hire attorneys for!!

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In reply to FireAg • 10:31a, 8/15/23
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FireAg said:
aggie93 said:

Where does he stand on the debt ceiling, and does he have the testicular fortitude to shut down the government, federal employees be damned, to get debt spending under control?
No way to prove that of course but his track record is damn near flawless. His Lifetime rating from the ACU in Congress was 99.36% (he voted on a Hurricane Relief Bill to "ruin" his perfect record). He helped found the Freedom Caucus. He was one of the VERY few Republicans that opposed Paul Ryan as Speaker primarily over reasons like this. He held himself to Term Limits. He refused a Congressional Pension even though he is not a wealthy man. Then of course his economic record in Florida is incredible and they are not only running big surpluses while operating at half the budget of NY with better results he has been paying down their debt to the point where it could be completely gone in the next few years. He certainly has shown he is willing to stand up for what he believes when it comes to Disney and Covid among other things.

There literally is not much else he could possibly do to prove himself as sincere and capable.
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In reply to LMCane • 10:45a, 8/15/23
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LMCane said:
Even Biden if he wanted to (and he would have a lot of pressure from his left NEVER to pardon Trump)

even he can't pardon Trump for these Georgia indictments.

Even Governor Kemp can't pardon Trump

(not that he would want to either after Trump has literally campaigned against him and slanders him at every opportunity)

It certainly seems this Atlanta arrest will be Trump's most dangerous and have the best chance of sending him to jail.
Regardless of what we think of them, sending a POTUS to jail should not be something any of us celebrate...

Awfully dangerous precedents we are setting as a country...
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In reply to aggie93 • 10:46a, 8/15/23
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aggie93 said:
FireAg said:
aggie93 said:

Where does he stand on the debt ceiling, and does he have the testicular fortitude to shut down the government, federal employees be damned, to get debt spending under control?
No way to prove that of course but his track record is damn near flawless. His Lifetime rating from the ACU in Congress was 99.36% (he voted on a Hurricane Relief Bill to "ruin" his perfect record). He helped found the Freedom Caucus. He was one of the VERY few Republicans that opposed Paul Ryan as Speaker primarily over reasons like this. He held himself to Term Limits. He refused a Congressional Pension even though he is not a wealthy man. Then of course his economic record in Florida is incredible and they are not only running big surpluses while operating at half the budget of NY with better results he has been paying down their debt to the point where it could be completely gone in the next few years. He certainly has shown he is willing to stand up for what he believes when it comes to Disney and Covid among other things.

There literally is not much else he could possibly do to prove himself as sincere and capable.
The debt limit increases need to stop...federal employee jobs be damned...

I want a President who has the balls to do this and not cave to pressure...no matter how ugly it gets...
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In reply to Rapier108 • 10:52a, 8/15/23
Rapier108 said:
When even MTG says someone is insane, you know that person is off the rail nuts.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-fawns-very-special-laura-loomer-new-video

Of course, according the Cult45, MTG is now "deep state" and a "plant" designed to hurt Trump.
only hires the best and greatest people!!

if you wanted to make an international joke of the GOP and lead them to endless defeats-

you could not create a better vehicle for that than Donald Trump since 2017
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In reply to FireAg • 10:53a, 8/15/23
FireAg said:
LMCane said:
Even Biden if he wanted to (and he would have a lot of pressure from his left NEVER to pardon Trump)

even he can't pardon Trump for these Georgia indictments.

Even Governor Kemp can't pardon Trump

(not that he would want to either after Trump has literally campaigned against him and slanders him at every opportunity)

It certainly seems this Atlanta arrest will be Trump's most dangerous and have the best chance of sending him to jail.
Regardless of what we think of them, sending a POTUS to jail should not be something any of us celebrate...

Awfully dangerous precedents we are setting as a country...
Eh, plenty of other countries have leaders who have been sentenced to jail, had their heads cut off, forced into exile.

and they are still democracies.

it's not the end of the world.

isn't that what "NO MAN IS ABOVE THE LAW" is supposed to mean?!
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10:53a, 8/15/23
Can we please keep all the Trump legal problems to the countless other threads about it?
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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