OFFICIAL ****Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis*** thread...

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LarryElder
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Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary
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LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary


No, troll because you use terms like "meatball ron," which shows you're not actually interested in a discussion.
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Destanits betting odds plus 1000 to win the presidency but im a troll.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary


No, troll because you use terms like "meatball ron," which shows you're not actually interested in a discussion.
right like the term cult45 thrown around here by almost every DeSantis supporter.
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LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

LarryElder said:

why do you people think Meatball ron is a slam dunk to beat biden if he gets by Trump in the primary? I dont see him pulling in any minorities or white soccer moms.
Because you aren't looking. In fact, you are actively ignoring.
you got evidence that proves otherwise.? Stop with the troll bs.
You signed up in 2019, made 5 posts, and never posted again until 2023, and most of your posts are designed to be inflammatory. That is the hallmarks of a troll/sock account.
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LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary
https://www.newsweek.com/poll-desantis-trump-stronger-swing-states-1808469#:~:text=The%20poll%2C%20conducted%20by%20Public,%2C%20respectively%2C%20in%20each%20state.


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The poll, conducted by Public Opinion Strategies and released on June 20, shows DeSantis beating President Biden in Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Georgia, with 47, 46 and 48 percent of the vote against the president's estimated 45, 40, and 45 percent, respectively, in each state.

Trump, according to the same poll, would be defeated by Biden in all three states when voters were presented with hypothetical presidential election match-ups.
I'm sure this doesn't count as evidence somehow.
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LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary


No, troll because you use terms like "meatball ron," which shows you're not actually interested in a discussion.
right like the term cult45 thrown around here by almost every DeSantis supporter.


Describing Trump's idiot lemming followers as a cult is not trolling, it's accurate. Calling a presidential candidate meatball Ron is a perfect example of that cult behavior.
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When a leader is never "wrong" ... what should the preferred name for his followers be?
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LarryElder said:

shack009 said:

LarryElder said:

why do you people think Meatball ron is a slam dunk to beat biden if he gets by Trump in the primary? I dont see him pulling in any minorities or white soccer moms.
Lol do you remember the elections we had just 8 months ago?
State of Florida election is not the same as a national election.


It's a battleground state. At least it was until DeSantis was elected. Now it's a solidly red state because of him. What makes it different?
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

LarryElder said:

shack009 said:

LarryElder said:

why do you people think Meatball ron is a slam dunk to beat biden if he gets by Trump in the primary? I dont see him pulling in any minorities or white soccer moms.
Lol do you remember the elections we had just 8 months ago?
State of Florida election is not the same as a national election.


It's a battleground state. At least it was until DeSantis was elected. Now it's a solidly red state because of him. What makes it different?
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Naw, naw, naw, see that's not the kind of poll we're supposed to believe right now. We're only supposed to believe Primary polls showing Trump up 90 points over Desantis. We have to put on horse blinders and focus solely on winning the first two quarters of the game, just forget the fact that our opponent makes great second half adjustments and is always statistically stronger in the second half of the game.
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Trump about to go crazy on another GOP governor.
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TRM said:





Naw, naw, naw, see that's not the kind of poll we're supposed to believe right now. We're only supposed to believe Primary polls showing Trump up 90 points over Desantis. We have to put on horse blinders and focus solely on winning the first two quarters of the game, just forget the fact that our opponent makes great second half adjustments and is always statistically stronger in the second half of the game.
C45 is having a hard time with this poll. The part of it showing Trump wins the primary is making them all giddy. The part saying Trump loses to Biden is "fake news."
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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His fan club never liked her anyway... just wait and see.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary


No, troll because you use terms like "meatball ron," which shows you're not actually interested in a discussion.
right like the term cult45 thrown around here by almost every DeSantis supporter.


Describing Trump's idiot lemming followers as a cult is not trolling, it's accurate. Calling a presidential candidate meatball Ron is a perfect example of that cult behavior.



How many names for Trump have been as bad or worse than meatball? We may have more than one cult involved in this race if your criteria is correct.
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What's your opinion of Huckabee-Sanders, while you're here?
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Bryanisbest said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary


No, troll because you use terms like "meatball ron," which shows you're not actually interested in a discussion.
right like the term cult45 thrown around here by almost every DeSantis supporter.


Describing Trump's idiot lemming followers as a cult is not trolling, it's accurate. Calling a presidential candidate meatball Ron is a perfect example of that cult behavior.



How many names for Trump have been as bad or worse than meatball? We may have more than one cult involved in this race if your criteria is correct.
I have always thought the nicknames are stupid but the "Meatball" thing is pretty gross since DeSantis is Italian. Trump gonna Trump though and Ron don't care, he just laughs about it and said he likes DeSantimonious since it has a lot of vowels. Trump is great at appealing to folks that like to think like they are 12 years old on the school yard and think it's cool. I just think it's stupid.
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TRM said:

Trump about to go crazy on another GOP governor.

It's truly amazing how many people that worked so closely with Trump won't get on board with him.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

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Bryanisbest said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary


No, troll because you use terms like "meatball ron," which shows you're not actually interested in a discussion.
right like the term cult45 thrown around here by almost every DeSantis supporter.


Describing Trump's idiot lemming followers as a cult is not trolling, it's accurate. Calling a presidential candidate meatball Ron is a perfect example of that cult behavior.



How many names for Trump have been as bad or worse than meatball? We may have more than one cult involved in this race if your criteria is correct.


You and LarryEldertroll have inspired me. I used to think these sorts of things were childish and pretty much disqualified someone from being taken seriously. But since this is now the height of political aplumb... since he can't seem to even be out of office and not still get rolled by Washington, I shall now always refer to the former president as "IncompeTrump".
LarryElder
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary


No, troll because you use terms like "meatball ron," which shows you're not actually interested in a discussion.
right like the term cult45 thrown around here by almost every DeSantis supporter.


Describing Trump's idiot lemming followers as a cult is not trolling, it's accurate. Calling a presidential candidate meatball Ron is a perfect example of that cult behavior.
meatball ron supporters can dish out but are too sensitive to get it back. sounds about right like your whiny candidate.

Also, if you voted in 2016 for Trump were you a lemming then????
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TRM said:

Trump about to go crazy on another GOP governor.



Wait


She's gov now!?

Daaaang

Awesome
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Bryanisbest said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary


No, troll because you use terms like "meatball ron," which shows you're not actually interested in a discussion.
right like the term cult45 thrown around here by almost every DeSantis supporter.


Describing Trump's idiot lemming followers as a cult is not trolling, it's accurate. Calling a presidential candidate meatball Ron is a perfect example of that cult behavior.



How many names for Trump have been as bad or worse than meatball? We may have more than one cult involved in this race if your criteria is correct.



Which ones has Desantis, himself, called Trump?

Not supporters, because that means nothing. It's Trump, himself, calling people names. I have heard no R candidate call him anything but "Donald Trump" or "President Trump".

TRM
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For you BigRob.
File this under "Things a Liberal Says"
J. Walter Weatherman
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LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary


No, troll because you use terms like "meatball ron," which shows you're not actually interested in a discussion.
right like the term cult45 thrown around here by almost every DeSantis supporter.


Describing Trump's idiot lemming followers as a cult is not trolling, it's accurate. Calling a presidential candidate meatball Ron is a perfect example of that cult behavior.
meatball ron supporters can dish out but are too sensitive to get it back. sounds about right like your whiny candidate.

Also, if you voted in 2016 for Trump were you a lemming then????


I don't vote for liberals (which Trump has been basically his entire life) so I voted 3rd party in 2016 and 2020. Since I live in Texas it doesn't actually matter but would have had to consider it if I didn't.

Either way, just voting for Trump in the general doesn't make someone a cultist - there's nothing wrong with voting for the only option against the left. Calling grown adults running for president 3rd grade nicknames because Dear Leader told you to definitely fits the label though.
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What name do you prefer for people that acknowledge zero flaws in their leader?
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It's truly amazing how many people that worked so closely with Trump won't get on board with him.
One would think it would give some people pause, but C45 will simply say they were always bad people who were always really never-Trumpers and there just to sabotage him.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
LarryElder
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary


No, troll because you use terms like "meatball ron," which shows you're not actually interested in a discussion.
right like the term cult45 thrown around here by almost every DeSantis supporter.


Describing Trump's idiot lemming followers as a cult is not trolling, it's accurate. Calling a presidential candidate meatball Ron is a perfect example of that cult behavior.
meatball ron supporters can dish out but are too sensitive to get it back. sounds about right like your whiny candidate.

Also, if you voted in 2016 for Trump were you a lemming then????


I don't vote for liberals (which Trump has been basically his entire life) so I voted 3rd party in 2016 and 2020. Since I live in Texas it doesn't actually matter but would have had to consider it if I didn't.

Either way, just voting for Trump in the general doesn't make someone a cultist - there's nothing wrong with voting for the only option against the left. Calling grown adults running for president 3rd grade nicknames because Dear Leader told you to definitely fits the label though.
So did Rhonda DeSantis tell his supports to refer to Trump supporters as Cult45? Can you show me where Trump told his supporters to mock Rhonda Desantis?

Look at the post above this one
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Also, if you voted in 2016 for Trump were you a lemming then????

I voted for Cruz in '16 primaries, DJT in general and DJT in 20. RDS represents a candidate that isn't perfect, but aligns much more closely to Cruz and to my preference. I haven't changed my political stripe just to defend Trumps idiocy, nor will I.
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Lying Ted, DeSanctus, Sloppy Chris, little Marco, low energy jeb ... all fun and games then.

Now you're whining?
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LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary


No, troll because you use terms like "meatball ron," which shows you're not actually interested in a discussion.
right like the term cult45 thrown around here by almost every DeSantis supporter.


Describing Trump's idiot lemming followers as a cult is not trolling, it's accurate. Calling a presidential candidate meatball Ron is a perfect example of that cult behavior.
meatball ron supporters can dish out but are too sensitive to get it back. sounds about right like your whiny candidate.

Also, if you voted in 2016 for Trump were you a lemming then????


I don't vote for liberals (which Trump has been basically his entire life) so I voted 3rd party in 2016 and 2020. Since I live in Texas it doesn't actually matter but would have had to consider it if I didn't.

Either way, just voting for Trump in the general doesn't make someone a cultist - there's nothing wrong with voting for the only option against the left. Calling grown adults running for president 3rd grade nicknames because Dear Leader told you to definitely fits the label though.
So did Rhonda DeSantis tell his supports to refer to Trump supporters as Cult45? Can you show me where Trump told his supporters to mock Rhonda Desantis?

Look at the post above this one


I believe #Cult45 was a Texags special but it could have come from somewhere else. DeSantis has basically ignored or laughed at all of Trump's weird nicknames though, 1. because he's an adult, and 2. he knows it's all Trump has since he and his followers know basically nothing about actual policy.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary


No, troll because you use terms like "meatball ron," which shows you're not actually interested in a discussion.
right like the term cult45 thrown around here by almost every DeSantis supporter.


Describing Trump's idiot lemming followers as a cult is not trolling, it's accurate. Calling a presidential candidate meatball Ron is a perfect example of that cult behavior.
meatball ron supporters can dish out but are too sensitive to get it back. sounds about right like your whiny candidate.

Also, if you voted in 2016 for Trump were you a lemming then????


I don't vote for liberals (which Trump has been basically his entire life) so I voted 3rd party in 2016 and 2020. Since I live in Texas it doesn't actually matter but would have had to consider it if I didn't.

Either way, just voting for Trump in the general doesn't make someone a cultist - there's nothing wrong with voting for the only option against the left. Calling grown adults running for president 3rd grade nicknames because Dear Leader told you to definitely fits the label though.
So did Rhonda DeSantis tell his supports to refer to Trump supporters as Cult45? Can you show me where Trump told his supporters to mock Rhonda Desantis?

Look at the post above this one


I believe #Cult45 was a Texags special but it could have come from somewhere else. DeSantis has basically ignored or laughed at all of Trump's weird nicknames though, 1. because he's an adult, and 2. he knows it's all Trump has since he and his followers know basically nothing about actual policy.
I wish I could take credit for making up Cult45, but alas, I can't. I stole it from elsewhere, but thought it was extremely accurate.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Bryanisbest said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary


No, troll because you use terms like "meatball ron," which shows you're not actually interested in a discussion.
right like the term cult45 thrown around here by almost every DeSantis supporter.


Describing Trump's idiot lemming followers as a cult is not trolling, it's accurate. Calling a presidential candidate meatball Ron is a perfect example of that cult behavior.



How many names for Trump have been as bad or worse than meatball? We may have more than one cult involved in this race if your criteria is correct.


Dude, there are posters here who compare incompeTrump favorably to Jesus... but sure, let's not invoke the word "cult"
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Phatbob said:

Bryanisbest said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary


No, troll because you use terms like "meatball ron," which shows you're not actually interested in a discussion.
right like the term cult45 thrown around here by almost every DeSantis supporter.


Describing Trump's idiot lemming followers as a cult is not trolling, it's accurate. Calling a presidential candidate meatball Ron is a perfect example of that cult behavior.



How many names for Trump have been as bad or worse than meatball? We may have more than one cult involved in this race if your criteria is correct.


Dude, there are posters here who compare incompeTrump favorably to Jesus... but sure, let's not invoke the word "cult"
If one really wants to see the true depths of Cult45, go to Free Republic. In 2016 members had to swear a loyalty oath to Trump or else be permabanned. Now it is truly a religion for most of them. The few DeSantis supporters are constantly harassed and threatened. The site will eventually conduct a membership purge of all non-Trump supporters.

They do compere him to Jesus, claiming Trump was sent by God to save this country, and that is why he is being prosecuted and will be crucified for it. When I refer to Cult45, it is this kind of insane devotion I am referring to, not someone who just happens to like Trump for whatever reason, but isn't devoted to him now and forever.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

LarryElder said:

Phatbob said:

Or... and stay with me on this... you are a troll and have ignored all of the evidence posted in this entire thread...
Troll cause i have different opinion i see no evidence Destantis has a better chance to beat biden he's polling terribly within his own parties primary


No, troll because you use terms like "meatball ron," which shows you're not actually interested in a discussion.
right like the term cult45 thrown around here by almost every DeSantis supporter.


Describing Trump's idiot lemming followers as a cult is not trolling, it's accurate. Calling a presidential candidate meatball Ron is a perfect example of that cult behavior.
meatball ron supporters can dish out but are too sensitive to get it back. sounds about right like your whiny candidate.

Also, if you voted in 2016 for Trump were you a lemming then????


I don't vote for liberals (which Trump has been basically his entire life) so I voted 3rd party in 2016 and 2020. Since I live in Texas it doesn't actually matter but would have had to consider it if I didn't.

Either way, just voting for Trump in the general doesn't make someone a cultist - there's nothing wrong with voting for the only option against the left. Calling grown adults running for president 3rd grade nicknames because Dear Leader told you to definitely fits the label though.
So did Rhonda DeSantis tell his supports to refer to Trump supporters as Cult45? Can you show me where Trump told his supporters to mock Rhonda Desantis?

Look at the post above this one


I believe #Cult45 was a Texags special but it could have come from somewhere else. DeSantis has basically ignored or laughed at all of Trump's weird nicknames though, 1. because he's an adult, and 2. he knows it's all Trump has since he and his followers know basically nothing about actual policy.
I wish I could take credit for making up Cult45, but alas, I can't. I stole it from elsewhere, but thought it was extremely accurate.
FWIW I think the "Cult45" thing is counterproductive. Attack Trump or maybe attack an individual supporter but "Cult 45" mixes the crazies with the folks who just like Trump and makes it harder to win them over. I would prefer DeSantis folks didn't use it.
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