OFFICIAL ****Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis*** thread...

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In reply to Old May Banker • 10:45a, 7/9/23
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Old May Banker said:
If I were DeSantis... I'd continue exactly as he is for another few months. Then start attacking him personally - doesn't know a single Bible verse, has been married multiple times due to philandering, pays off porn stars, has filed multiple bankruptcies, etc etc etc... Trump wants to go low, go lower. But today isn't the time... keep hammering policy for now.

Disagree, at least that overtly. Better to highlight how DeSantis is moral than to tear Trump down. You can't win a mud wrestling match with Trump you just get dirty.
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10:46a, 7/9/23
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DeSantis doing RINO things again

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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 10:47a, 7/9/23
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Old May Banker said:
If I were DeSantis... I'd continue exactly as he is for another few months. Then start attacking him personally - doesn't know a single Bible verse, has been married multiple times due to philandering, pays off porn stars, has filed multiple bankruptcies, etc etc etc... Trump wants to go low, go lower. But today isn't the time... keep hammering policy for now.
Oh the irony.
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In reply to aggie93 • 10:48a, 7/9/23
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I know you're right... just sick of watching what's supposed to be the conservative party torn in half over that pompous, geriatric buffoon.
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In reply to aggie93 • 10:49a, 7/9/23
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Old May Banker said:
If I were DeSantis... I'd continue exactly as he is for another few months. Then start attacking him personally - doesn't know a single Bible verse, has been married multiple times due to philandering, pays off porn stars, has filed multiple bankruptcies, etc etc etc... Trump wants to go low, go lower. But today isn't the time... keep hammering policy for now.

Disagree, at least that overtly. Better to highlight how DeSantis is moral than to tear Trump down. You can't win a mud wrestling match with Trump you just get dirty.


Agree here too. His surrogates can help with this but given that Trump makes it easy by being a lying, garbage person the contrast should be easy to see.
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In reply to Old May Banker • 11:11a, 7/9/23
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I know you're right... just sick of watching what's supposed to be the conservative party torn in half over that pompous, geriatric buffoon.

Trump wants DeSantis to get personal because if he does he will get really nasty and DeSantis won't be as able to stay classy which hurts his appeal. Let Trump be an ass and just laugh it off or shake your head, that's how you beat him. Get personal and all the policy stuff goes out the window.
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In reply to aggie93 • 11:12a, 7/9/23
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You're obviously right...
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In reply to aggie93 • 11:51a, 7/9/23
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DeSantis doing RINO things again




"Whatever, meatball Ron, I just MIGHT have my daughter's and my stuff made somewhere other than China. Might!" -Trump
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In reply to Sq 17 • 12:22p, 7/9/23
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Sq 17 said:
If I were DeSantis I'd figure a way to coerce / bribe everybody to drop out. Guys like Scott. Hutchison . Vivek Etc are going to gift wrap the nomination for Trump

I'd think there is position in the DeSantis cabinet these guys would be interested in


These grifters don't belong in any government
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12:25p, 7/9/23
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I simply look forward to the debate between the two of them. I think the choice will be very obvious to most once they're on the stage together
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In reply to Sq 17 • 12:36p, 7/9/23
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Sq 17 said:
If I were DeSantis I'd figure a way to coerce / bribe everybody to drop out. Guys like Scott. Hutchison . Vivek Etc are going to gift wrap the nomination for Trump

I'd think there is position in the DeSantis cabinet these guys would be interested in


Those guys are going to attack DeSantis imo. Attacking Trump does know good, but to take down number 2 keeps their campaign alive longer this able to raise more money.
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12:42p, 7/9/23
I could make a thread titled "Who is seriously undecided between Trump and DeSantis?" and it would be shorter than the list of things I got done while my wife was on vacation.

Makes this thread a worthless circlejerk.
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In reply to LeonardSkinner • 12:46p, 7/9/23
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I could make a thread titled "Who is seriously undecided between Trump and DeSantis?" and it would be shorter than the list of things I got done while my wife was on vacation.

Makes this thread a worthless circlejerk.
Feel free to go back to the soccer board if you don't like it.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to Maroon Dawn • 1:19p, 7/9/23
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Maroon Dawn said:
I simply look forward to the debate between the two of them. I think the choice will be very obvious to most once they're on the stage together

I doubt the majority of forever trumpers will be bothered to watch.
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In reply to Maroon Dawn • 1:28p, 7/9/23
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I simply look forward to the debate between the two of them. I think the choice will be very obvious to most once they're on the stage together


Unfortunately I doubt Trump shows. Deep down he's a coward who knows the debate will remind everyone who hasn't been paying attention what a complete clown he is. Will probably just host another rally at the same where he can continue to lie without being challenged.
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4:58p, 7/9/23
CLOWN SHOW


I'm Gipper
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In reply to aggie93 • 4:59p, 7/9/23
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aggie93 said:
Old May Banker said:
I know you're right... just sick of watching what's supposed to be the conservative party torn in half over that pompous, geriatric buffoon.

Trump wants DeSantis to get personal because if he does he will get really nasty and DeSantis won't be as able to stay classy which hurts his appeal. Let Trump be an ass and just laugh it off or shake your head, that's how you beat him. Get personal and all the policy stuff goes out the window.

I agree. I still remember when Cruz finally decided to fight back against Trump in 2016 and it just felt really awkward.
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5:05p, 7/9/23
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I think it will be shown that it would have been much better for Trump, DeSantis, and the GOP for Ron to either sit out this election and prepare for 2028 or work with Trump and run as VP for good exposure even if Trump lost. Ron grossly underestimated Trump's star power, persistence and determination. Don & Ron fighting each other only damages each other and helps the dopey Democrats !
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In reply to Im Gipper • 5:06p, 7/9/23
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CLOWN SHOW



Lol. I'm sure Science Denier and the rest of the Trump worshippers will be back any minute to defend this.
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In reply to oysterbayAG • 5:13p, 7/9/23
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I think it will be shown that it would have been much better for Trump, DeSantis, and the GOP for Ron to either sit out this election and prepare for 2028 or work with Trump and run as VP for good exposure even if Trump lost. Ron grossly underestimated Trump's star power, persistence and determination. Don & Ron fighting each other only damages each other and helps the dopey Democrats !
There will be no 2028 if the Democrats in in 2024 and have total control of Congress, which is what will happen if Trump is the nominee.

Also, DeSantis cannot run with Trump because 1 of them will not get Florida's electoral votes.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to Rapier108 • 5:21p, 7/9/23
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Also, DeSantis cannot run with Trump because 1 of them will not get Florida's electoral votes.
A long time ago that was true.

It is not now. Electors do not vote on VP anymore, since they are on a political party ticket.
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In reply to Rapier108 • 5:23p, 7/9/23
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LeonardSkinner said:
I could make a thread titled "Who is seriously undecided between Trump and DeSantis?" and it would be shorter than the list of things I got done while my wife was on vacation.

Makes this thread a worthless circlejerk.
Feel free to go back to the soccer board if you don't like it.

Ohh, where I cheer for the American team to win, and don't waste all my time arguing about the manager with people who won't change their minds? Hm.

They're playing tonight vs Canada in the Gold Cup, by the way.

And if we're looking at post histories, it looks like we're on the same page in regards of who we'd like to be both the nominee and future President.
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5:26p, 7/9/23
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Run against Trump and you better be able to ride the bucking bronco. You can't plan to stay off the nasty bronco and win.
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In reply to oysterbayAG • 6:57p, 7/9/23
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oysterbayAG said:
I think it will be shown that it would have been much better for Trump, DeSantis, and the GOP for Ron to either sit out this election and prepare for 2028 or work with Trump and run as VP for good exposure even if Trump lost. Ron grossly underestimated Trump's star power, persistence and determination. Don & Ron fighting each other only damages each other and helps the dopey Democrats !
Mid-March people were ready to move on from Trump, then Trump gets indicted and gets a 20 point bump. Trump didn't do anything to really earn that bump. It was Republican outrage at the politically motivated indictment that manifested itself towards Trump. Eventually, that support will soften.
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In reply to Bryanisbest • 6:58p, 7/9/23
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Run against Trump and you better be able to ride the bucking bronco. You can't plan to stay off the nasty bronco and win.
Trump couldn't handle a vegetable that campaigned from his basement.
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In reply to oysterbayAG • 7:01p, 7/9/23
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oysterbayAG said:
I think it will be shown that it would have been much better for Trump, DeSantis, and the GOP for Ron to either sit out this election and prepare for 2028 or work with Trump and run as VP for good exposure even if Trump lost. Ron grossly underestimated Trump's star power, persistence and determination. Don & Ron fighting each other only damages each other and helps the dopey Democrats !


Trump will probably die in the next 12 months

Ron will easily slide into the spot at that point if he hasn't passed the alive Trump by that point
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In reply to TRM • 7:04p, 7/9/23
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TRM said:
Bryanisbest said:
Run against Trump and you better be able to ride the bucking bronco. You can't plan to stay off the nasty bronco and win.
Trump couldn't handle a vegetable that campaigned from his basement.
You know that is a lie, right?
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In reply to aggiehawg • 7:06p, 7/9/23
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TRM said:
Bryanisbest said:
Run against Trump and you better be able to ride the bucking bronco. You can't plan to stay off the nasty bronco and win.
Trump couldn't handle a vegetable that campaigned from his basement.
You know that is a lie, right?



Yes, Bryan knows what he said is a lie. Just like "proven warrior" , "bug zapper" , etc.
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In reply to LeonardSkinner • 7:34p, 7/9/23
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LeonardSkinner said:
I could make a thread titled "Who is seriously undecided between Trump and DeSantis?" and it would be shorter than the list of things I got done while my wife was on vacation.

Makes this thread a worthless circlejerk.


Unfortunately, it actually has turned into a "post Trump lying and making outlandish statements" thread, which means the Trumpers mostly don't swing by anymore , cause they'd rather stick to bumper sticker thoughts about him than have to justify or defend his actual statements.
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In reply to TRM • 7:47p, 7/9/23
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TRM said:
oysterbayAG said:
I think it will be shown that it would have been much better for Trump, DeSantis, and the GOP for Ron to either sit out this election and prepare for 2028 or work with Trump and run as VP for good exposure even if Trump lost. Ron grossly underestimated Trump's star power, persistence and determination. Don & Ron fighting each other only damages each other and helps the dopey Democrats !
Mid-March people were ready to move on from Trump, then Trump gets indicted and gets a 20 point bump. Trump didn't do anything to really earn that bump. It was Republican outrage at the politically motivated indictment that manifested itself towards Trump. Eventually, that support will soften.


Until the Dems slow roll out another big development against Trump. About 1 every 3-4 months will keep the Trump base on the hook enough to screw up the Rep primary.
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In reply to FL_Ag1998 • 7:59p, 7/9/23
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Once the 1st trial occurs in Sept, I think the other indictments will mean less.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 8:14p, 7/9/23
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While already rejecting donald's chance of winning if somehow he's winning the nomination (which he won't), the national voters will for sure reject the GOP ticket with both from Florida or any other state. And to presume DeSantos would accept a VP role when he's a successful leader is unrealistic.
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In reply to agz win • 8:25p, 7/9/23
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agz win said:
While already rejecting donald's chance of winning if somehow he's winning the nomination (which he won't), the national voters will for sure reject the GOP ticket with both from Florida or any other state. And to presume DeSantos would accept a VP role when he's a successful leader is unrealistic.
Not what I said.
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In reply to oysterbayAG • 9:21p, 7/9/23
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oysterbayAG said:
I think it will be shown that it would have been much better for Trump, DeSantis, and the GOP for Ron to either sit out this election and prepare for 2028 or work with Trump and run as VP for good exposure even if Trump lost. Ron grossly underestimated Trump's star power, persistence and determination. Don & Ron fighting each other only damages each other and helps the dopey Democrats !

Maybe in a rational world but Trump isn't rational. If DeSantis agrees to be Trump"s vp he ties his career to Trump no matter what he does. Trump will burn him without a second thought or if Trump implodes then DeSantis goes with him.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

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In reply to aggie93 • 9:29p, 7/9/23
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In a rational world, 80 year old men are happy to pass the torch.
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