OFFICIAL ****Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis*** thread...

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MagnumLoad said:

For all the anti Trump folks on here; which one of Trump's policies while he was president made your life worse?


Spending
Anti-2a
"The wall"- a liberal jobs program
Covid response
Spending
Spending
Lack of leadership to get things done legislatively
EOs
Spending
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Old May Banker said:

Interested to see math denier twist herself into pretzel knots explaining how ethanol mandates and government subsidies are good, conservative platforms.
the Trumpers are not conservatives and don't care about conservative policy

they care about being on Team Trump and being entertained by the Carnival Barker.

how can any conservative support a twice divorced, cheated on three wives, draft dodging, indicted three times, impeached twice, openly talked about "suspending" the constitution to be put back into power, asking GOP officials to create fake electors to overturn an election he lost by 8 million votes and 331-206 in the electoral college, who supports ethanol subsidies, claims six week abortion bans are "too stiff" and runs to the left of DeSantis on every issue...
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MagnumLoad said:

For all the anti Trump folks on here; which one of Trump's policies while he was president made your life worse?
"15 days to stop the curve"

shutting down the country and yelling at Kemp and DeSantis to shut down

pumping billions and trillions of spending into PPP and deferring college loans and 3 bailout plans which have caused massive inflation the last 18 months

not stopping massive riots which ravaged the country

which policy of Biden's has made your life worse?
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Was I correct that Cruz beat him ?
What was Cruz' position on Ethanol ?
Not surprising that Team Trump did not do their homework preparing for Iowa

Lastly now that I think about McCain used to skip the IA caucus because he was against ethanol requirements
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Sq 17 said:

Was I correct that Cruz beat him ?
What was Cruz' position on Ethanol ?
Not surprising that Team Trump did not do their homework preparing for Iowa

Lastly now that I think about McCain used to skip the IA caucus because he was against ethanol requirements


Yes, Cruz won, even though he was against the E mandates. That had little to do with his winning. He was simply very prepared and conservative, unlike Trump.
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MagnumLoad said:

For all the anti Trump folks on here; which one of Trump's policies while he was president made your life worse?


Which one of his NFT trading cards do you like the best?
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MagnumLoad said:

For all the anti Trump folks on here; which one of Trump's policies while he was president made your life worse?


Adding to what everyone else posted:

Fauci
Losing to Biden
Causing the republicans to lose the senate in 22 by pushing 3 horrible candidates
MagnumLoad
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

MagnumLoad said:

For all the anti Trump folks on here; which one of Trump's policies while he was president made your life worse?


Adding to what everyone else posted:

Fauci
Losing to Biden
Causing the republicans to lose the senate in 22 by pushing 3 horrible candidates

Except those aren't policies. They are the tesult of people voting with their emotions and not their brains. Which is exactly why I asked the question.
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LMCane said:

MagnumLoad said:

For all the anti Trump folks on here; which one of Trump's policies while he was president made your life worse?
"15 days to stop the curve"

shutting down the country and yelling at Kemp and DeSantis to shut down

pumping billions and trillions of spending into PPP and deferring college loans and 3 bailout plans which have caused massive inflation the last 18 months

not stopping massive riots which ravaged the country

which policy of Biden's has made your life worse?

Inflation is the result of bidens war on American fossil fuels and massive spending/ printing money. We have met the enemy and it is voter ignorance and emotion.
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MagnumLoad said:

LMCane said:

MagnumLoad said:

For all the anti Trump folks on here; which one of Trump's policies while he was president made your life worse?
"15 days to stop the curve"

shutting down the country and yelling at Kemp and DeSantis to shut down

pumping billions and trillions of spending into PPP and deferring college loans and 3 bailout plans which have caused massive inflation the last 18 months

not stopping massive riots which ravaged the country

which policy of Biden's has made your life worse?

Inflation is the result of bidens war on American fossil fuels and massive spending/ printing money. We have met the enemy and it is voter ignorance and emotion.

Trump spent like a drunken sailor and bought off on shutdowns vs reopening that would have changed everything. Thankfully he was so incompetent legislatively that his bills to sell out on Amnesty, 2a rights, and a host of other issues failed. He still will take no responsibility for Fauci or Wray being disasters.

Trump did many good things but he doesn't learn and is very disorganized. If him endorsing Graham in SC which is a Dark Red state isn't enough for you I don't know what can change your mind that he will never learn.

We have a better choice and Trump isn't entitled to Round 3 after he lost to a vegetable.
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This has been super easy to see what will happen. Trumpists love having their Carnival Barker out and about in front of their big parties. There are a lot of them--probably about 35% of the population, if we are honest. DeSantis doesn't have anything like that, nor do the spares running way behind these two.

DeSantis should have stayed in Florida as the governor. He could finish up this term and make Florida look even better than it already does right now, watch Trump get beat by Grandpa and the Machine again, and continue to see the Blue America burn. Plus, maybe the GOP might just figure out a way to beat the Machine at their game, just like Trump did in 2016 against Hilldog. All of this would have made RDS look great. Instead, he pissed off the carnival barker and his merry band of followers, many of whom will NEVER vote for him. And now, with a certain loss in front of him, he may very well be facing a reality that the MSM will soon start its Donald Trump Jr. campaign, just to get a leg up on the TDS that the leftists in the country have for all things Trump. which of course, will mean we get 20 years of more Trump stuff. DeSantis might as well never run for the WH again, as the foreseeable future is one that involves Leftists vs. Trump for many elections ahead. Just wonderful...

Ron DeSantis is the best candidate the GOP has run in 40 years--and it won't mean a damn thing. Because he can't get the media to cover him, since he's as conservative as he is, nor does he know how to be a celebrity like the Trumps. And the Trumps will never be allowed anywhere close to the White House ever again. All they will do is make money--for themselves, for the lib candidates, and especially for MSM outlets to make profits off the TDS we know they love to benefit from.

Idiocracy wasn't a movie, it was a plan...

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MagnumLoad said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

MagnumLoad said:

For all the anti Trump folks on here; which one of Trump's policies while he was president made your life worse?


Adding to what everyone else posted:

Fauci
Losing to Biden
Causing the republicans to lose the senate in 22 by pushing 3 horrible candidates

Except those aren't policies. They are the tesult of people voting with their emotions and not their brains. Which is exactly why I asked the question.


Supporting Fauci, and all of the idiotic shutdown paranoia, was actually policy.

His only lasting legacy will be the SCotUS picks he was given by a conservative think tank. That is a big win, but the rest of his leadershipless administration was a mongolian cluster**** leading us to today's inflationary debacle.
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JWinTX said:

This has been super easy to see what will happen. Trumpists love having their Carnival Barker out and about in front of their big parties. There are a lot of them--probably about 35% of the population, if we are honest. DeSantis doesn't have anything like that, nor do the spares running way behind these two.

DeSantis should have stayed in Florida as the governor. He could finish up this term and make Florida look even better than it already does right now, watch Trump get beat by Grandpa and the Machine again, and continue to see the Blue America burn. Plus, maybe the GOP might just figure out a way to beat the Machine at their game, just like Trump did in 2016 against Hilldog. All of this would have made RDS look great. Instead, he pissed off the carnival barker and his merry band of followers, many of whom will NEVER vote for him. And now, with a certain loss in front of him, he may very well be facing a reality that the MSM will soon start its Donald Trump Jr. campaign, just to get a leg up on the TDS that the leftists in the country have for all things Trump. which of course, will mean we get 20 years of more Trump stuff. DeSantis might as well never run for the WH again, as the foreseeable future is one that involves Leftists vs. Trump for many elections ahead. Just wonderful...

Ron DeSantis is the best candidate the GOP has run in 40 years--and it won't mean a damn thing. Because he can't get the media to cover him, since he's as conservative as he is, nor does he know how to be a celebrity like the Trumps. And the Trumps will never be allowed anywhere close to the White House ever again. All they will do is make money--for themselves, for the lib candidates, and especially for MSM outlets to make profits off the TDS we know they love to benefit from.

Idiocracy wasn't a movie, it was a plan...




You're right: Desantis is the best GOP candidate in decades. It'll be a shame to see someone who actually brought in people out of the base to vote for him for governor only to see all that potential go to waste because a fraction of the population want Instant gratification of getting revenge and owning he libs, instead of getting someone who can help make the country better for years after he's gone.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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JWinTX said:

This has been super easy to see what will happen. Trumpists love having their Carnival Barker out and about in front of their big parties. There are a lot of them--probably about 35% of the population, if we are honest. DeSantis doesn't have anything like that, nor do the spares running way behind these two.

DeSantis should have stayed in Florida as the governor. He could finish up this term and make Florida look even better than it already does right now, watch Trump get beat by Grandpa and the Machine again, and continue to see the Blue America burn. Plus, maybe the GOP might just figure out a way to beat the Machine at their game, just like Trump did in 2016 against Hilldog. All of this would have made RDS look great. Instead, he pissed off the carnival barker and his merry band of followers, many of whom will NEVER vote for him. And now, with a certain loss in front of him, he may very well be facing a reality that the MSM will soon start its Donald Trump Jr. campaign, just to get a leg up on the TDS that the leftists in the country have for all things Trump. which of course, will mean we get 20 years of more Trump stuff. DeSantis might as well never run for the WH again, as the foreseeable future is one that involves Leftists vs. Trump for many elections ahead. Just wonderful...

Ron DeSantis is the best candidate the GOP has run in 40 years--and it won't mean a damn thing. Because he can't get the media to cover him, since he's as conservative as he is, nor does he know how to be a celebrity like the Trumps. And the Trumps will never be allowed anywhere close to the White House ever again. All they will do is make money--for themselves, for the lib candidates, and especially for MSM outlets to make profits off the TDS we know they love to benefit from.

Idiocracy wasn't a movie, it was a plan...




All of this, times a million. Minus the "20 more years of Trump stuff", as the guy is almost 80.
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aggie93 said:




And that's before DeSantis embarrasses Biden in the debates. It'll be a bloodbath.
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BigRobSA said:

MagnumLoad said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

MagnumLoad said:

For all the anti Trump folks on here; which one of Trump's policies while he was president made your life worse?


Adding to what everyone else posted:

Fauci
Losing to Biden
Causing the republicans to lose the senate in 22 by pushing 3 horrible candidates

Except those aren't policies. They are the tesult of people voting with their emotions and not their brains. Which is exactly why I asked the question.


Supporting Fauci, and all of the idiotic shutdown paranoia, was actually policy.

His only lasting legacy will be the SCotUS picks he was given by a conservative think tank. That is a big win, but the rest of his leadershipless administration was a mongolian cluster**** leading us to today's inflationary debacle.


Yep, aside from saying yes to some obvious SCOTUS selections presented to him. What did Trump to to make America great?
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aggie93 said:


But we must nominate Trump.

He is the "proven warrior."

He will win "the rural vote."

He deserves his third term.

All traitors to MAGA must be destroyed forever.

We must have revenge.

"Trust Trump's Plan/Trust the Plan"
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Quote:

Ron DeSantis is the best candidate the GOP has run in 40 years--and it won't mean a damn thing. Because he can't get the media to cover him, since he's as conservative as he is, nor does he know how to be a celebrity like the Trumps. And the Trumps will never be allowed anywhere close to the White House ever again. All they will do is make money--for themselves, for the lib candidates, and especially for MSM outlets to make profits off the TDS we know they love to benefit...


What you said in your post is true, except I do see media coverage of Desantis more and more every day. He's become the new Republican devil.

They don't even cover Trump in as harsh a light these days as they do Desantis. Trump coverage is limited to the indictments or his once-every-3-months rallys. But Desantis has an unfavorable spotlight shone on every single policy decision and statement and campaign ad he makes. The media is absolutely covering Desantis. They're terrified of him becoming the new face of the Republicans.

It's the split Republican party that can't take their eyes off Trump. Its the MAGA faction of the Republican party who wants a carnival barker and spectacle rather than policy that can't stop fawning over Trump. Just take a look at the latest thread from a Trump fawner just salivating over the idea of getting to say "Trump won!" and spike the ball in the faces of Desantis supporters. But hey, its really Desantis supporters who will doom the Republican chances, right?
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FL_Ag1998 said:

Quote:

Ron DeSantis is the best candidate the GOP has run in 40 years--and it won't mean a damn thing. Because he can't get the media to cover him, since he's as conservative as he is, nor does he know how to be a celebrity like the Trumps. And the Trumps will never be allowed anywhere close to the White House ever again. All they will do is make money--for themselves, for the lib candidates, and especially for MSM outlets to make profits off the TDS we know they love to benefit...


What you said in your post is true, except I do see media coverage of Desantis more and more every day. He's become the new Republican devil.

They don't even cover Trump in as harsh a light these days as they do Desantis. Trump coverage is limited to the indictments or his once-every-3-months rallys. But Desantis has an unfavorable spotlight shone on every single policy decision and statement and campaign ad he makes. The media is absolutely covering Desantis. They're terrified of him becoming the new face of the Republicans.

It's the split Republican party that can't take their eyes off Trump. Its the MAGA faction of the Republican party who wants a carnival barker and spectacle rather than policy that can't stop fawning over Trump. Just take a look at the latest thread from a Trump fawner just salivating over the idea of getting to say "Trump won!" and spike the ball in the faces of Desantis supporters. But hey, its really Desantis supporters who will doom the Republican chances, right?
DeSantis actually pointed this out today. He is the media's favorite Republican to bash right now, and they treat Trump with kid gloves.

The Cult45 media (National Pulse, Breitbart, National File, etc) immediately said DeSantis was "whining".
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Quote:

DeSantis actually pointed this out today. He is the media's favorite Republican to bash right now, and they treat Trump with kid gloves.

The Cult45 media (National Pulse, Breitbart, National File, etc) immediately said DeSantis was "whining".
Plenty of people whined in 2016, too. Media would have Cruz or Kasich on and ask about their reacions to what Trump had said that day and not let them make their platform pitch.

There's an easy way around that, ignore the question and say what he wants to say. Why is that hard?
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Wall to be done in 3 weeks? \Iceman BS gif
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aggiehawg said:

Quote:

DeSantis actually pointed this out today. He is the media's favorite Republican to bash right now, and they treat Trump with kid gloves.

The Cult45 media (National Pulse, Breitbart, National File, etc) immediately said DeSantis was "whining".
Plenty of people whined in 2016, too. Media would have Cruz or Kasich on and ask about their reacions to what Trump had said that day and not let them make their platform pitch.

There's an easy way around that, ignore the question and say what he wants to say. Why is that hard?
DeSantis actually does a very good job of doing exactly that. Problem is that doesn't mean they will cover it, they are going in with the intention of a story and will cover that story. If DeSantis doesn't respond they will just make up a narrative around that. You are acting like the press GAF about objectivity.

Long game will be fine though because DeSantis is not Cruz in '16 who was in the midst of a campaign that overperformed and was over his head. He's going to keep hitting on policy and issues and ground game, day after day.

Trump is going to keep doing stuff like this and his supporters will just think it's amazing. Dude just loves to buy fast food and pizza for people so he can look like a "regular guy" which is probably the biggest joke of all. Trump has never done manual labor in his life and he grew up in extreme privilege. He connects with people very well but it amazes me how folks still buy this schtick, if you don't think he is laughing inside while he does this you are incredibly gullible. He knows he will get his supporters to fawn by doing this and they will ignore everything else.


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TRM said:


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TRM said:


And Cult45 eats it up and believes anything the god king says without question.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Trump is just getting so disgusting now. Oh, so the entire wall was going to be done in 3 weeks and "they just stopped building it because they want open borders". How can anyone take him seriously?

Then on the CCP quote he literally says after lying about DeSantis "siding with the Chinese", "Does that sound good?" He is just making crap up on the fly.
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Rapier108 said:

TRM said:

TRM said:

DeSantis Border presser will stream here when it starts:

https://rumble.com/v2wfz5y-governor-desantis-speaks-in-eagle-pass-texas.html
Starting
And if 100K don't watch it live, then Cult45 will claim DeSantis is "fading." Most people are at work right now and cannot watch something live.

I think "fading" is the current talking point they're all using.
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TRM said:

Rapier108 said:

TRM said:

TRM said:

DeSantis Border presser will stream here when it starts:

https://rumble.com/v2wfz5y-governor-desantis-speaks-in-eagle-pass-texas.html
Starting
And if 100K don't watch it live, then Cult45 will claim DeSantis is "fading." Most people are at work right now and cannot watch something live.

I think "fading" is the current talking point they're all using.

If I still had an account on Free Republic, I'd post that there, and promptly get a permaban.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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TRM said:

TRM said:





Both Trump and his daughter's stuff was made in China and Mexico, so.....
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What amazes me is that Trump supporters will acknowledge and defend his flat out lies about opponents, his record of broken promises, etc. with a variety of excuses, but it never occurs to them that Trump might just be lying to THEM with his campaign promises and answers to questions about his past actions.
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aggie93 said:

Trump is just getting so disgusting now. Oh, so the entire wall was going to be done in 3 weeks and "they just stopped building it because they want open borders". How can anyone take him seriously?

Then on the CCP quote he literally says after lying about DeSantis "siding with the Chinese", "Does that sound good?" He is just making crap up on the fly.
He's always done that. It's funny that conservatives are just now seeing it. You can literally watch the debates against Hillary and see the very same game. But it worked for him then. And that says as much about voters as it does about Trump.
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Opalka said:

aggie93 said:

Trump is just getting so disgusting now. Oh, so the entire wall was going to be done in 3 weeks and "they just stopped building it because they want open borders". How can anyone take him seriously?

Then on the CCP quote he literally says after lying about DeSantis "siding with the Chinese", "Does that sound good?" He is just making crap up on the fly.
He's always done that. It's funny that conservatives are just now seeing it. You can literally watch the debates against Hillary and see the very same game. But it worked for him then. And that says as much about voters as it does about Trump.
Bawahahaha,

Are you really defending Hill-dawg? That was the one time Trump was spot on.

Yes, regarding DeSantis and other conservatives Trump is FOS. But in 2016 he was right. Hillary right along with Biden are the two worst candidates in US history. Even Trump got that one right.
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She's a flaming leftist... of course she's defending Hillary
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Flat out lies. That's Trumps strategy.

I'm Gipper
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