You can post a picture backing the claim.

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You can post a picture backing the claim.

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Is there a photo or video backing the claim made in the tweet you presented?

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Heard from an attendee of the "Moms for Liberty" event at which both DeSantis and Trump spoke.

She said that DeSantis received constant standing ovations and was mobbed after his speech, taking pictures with everyone who wanted one. The response to Trump was much more muted…

— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) July 6, 2023

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Oops. Another lie by team DeSantis. No wonder the TDS in this thread is all Twitter reeeeeeeing. Can't stand the scrutiny of even biased MSM filters.

Again, another lie from you. I was there at the Marriott & people yelled I love Trump all over the room and some were saying they liked Desantis but that he does NOT have the same charm as Trump. It was mostly white older women and many with MAGA hats.

— RedState (@ChelleCurry) July 6, 2023

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Lol that person has 48 followers and basically has no activity outside of an obsessive amount of replies, most recently to basically every Bill Mitchell tweet. Seems legit.

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We found another Trump paid for Twitter troll.

This is what he is spending all his campaign cash on, paying other to talk trash on Twitter since he won't do it himself.

OMG, #NeverBack Down is destroying Trump fundraising!

"Never Back Down, the super PAC supporting the Florida governor's presidential run, in a separate announcement told Fox News that they've hauled in $130 million in fundraising since the committee launched in early March."

— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) July 6, 2023

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I believe DeSantis can appeal to the Trump Voting Bloc…I truly do…

However, I firmly believe that DeSantis's current strategy, and the tactics employed by his supporters (as evidenced on this thread) just ain't gonna do it…

Again, the DeSantis Camp MUST pull 10s of millions of votes away from Trump…and so far, no matter what the reason, they aren't yet making any gains in that regard…

So something has to change.

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how about you make ONE post on how it's the responsibility of GOP voters to educate themselves.

rather than the responsibility of a few dozen posters on TexAgs to win a national election in a country of 330 million people?

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis's (R) presidential campaign raised $20 million during the second quarter of 2023.

The campaign said in a release that the total, brought in during the first six weeks that DeSantis has been in the race, is the largest first-quarter filing from a non-incumbent Republican candidate in more than a decade.

"We are grateful for the investment so many Americans have made to get this country back on track. The fight to save it will be long and challenging, but we have built an operation to share the governor's message and mobilize the millions of people who support it. We are ready to win," campaign manager Generra Peck said in the release.

The super PAC supporting DeSantis, Never Back Down, also told Fox News that it has raised $130 million since it launched in early March. But $82.5 million was transferred from his state political committee to Never Back Down last month.

The announcement comes as the second quarter ended last week. Campaigns do not need to report their fundraising numbers to the Federal Election Commission until July 15.

DeSantis has consistently placed in second in Republican primary polling since before he joined the race, but former President Trump has remained the front-runner for the GOP nomination.

Trump's campaign and political action committee confirmed to The Hill Wednesday that it brought in more than $35 million during the second quarter.

But DeSantis's campaign noted that the total that the governor brought in during those six weeks is greater than what Trump raised during the first six weeks of his campaign in 2022 and the first quarter of 2023 combined.

Not sure if serious…

The numbers are what they are, regardless of the bloviating from either side of this argument…

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Never Back Down CEO Chris Jankowski spotlighted in a statement that the "$150,000,000 raised from across all 50 states between DeSantis for President and Never Back Down shows what a formidable movement is behind Governor DeSantis. The future of the Republican Party is Governor Ron DeSantis."

A significant portion of Never Back Down's fundraising - roughly $82 million - was money transferred to the super PAC in June from a Florida based political committee affiliated with the governor. The funds were originally raised to support DeSantis' 2022 gubernatorial re-election.

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Here's DeSantis's speech. I don't see many MAGA hats in the crowd and plenty of applause.


Hard to find pictures at the moment as I'm getting a ton of the protest pictures instead of pictures from the event.

Okay, so really nothing to support or refute one side's take or the other…

That's my point…

We have a "a friend of a friend told me…" tweet and the validity of the alleged observations are likely heavily influenced by what one's position is in this argument…

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Same here. Been looking but my limited ability to search twitter (since I'm cheap and not an account holder) is making finding video of the actual speeches and reactions nearly impossible for me.

I see 3 MAGA hats not the many had MAGA hats.

Okay…again…not sure that proves anything one way or another…

You have anything other than still shots?

ETA: Just looking for video, no offense intended.

We will not allow you to exploit the innocence of our children to advance your agenda.

When you come after our kids, we fight back.

We are no longer silent.

We are united.

We are Mamas for DeSantis.

...and we will elect @RonDeSantis President of the United States.

Join our… pic.twitter.com/jo6HUATaVa

— Casey DeSantis (@CaseyDeSantis) July 6, 2023

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Never Back Down CEO Chris Jankowski spotlighted in a statement that the "$150,000,000 raised from across all 50 states between DeSantis for President and Never Back Down shows what a formidable movement is behind Governor DeSantis. The future of the Republican Party is Governor Ron DeSantis."

A significant portion of Never Back Down's fundraising - roughly $82 million - was money transferred to the super PAC in June from a Florida based political committee affiliated with the governor. The funds were originally raised to support DeSantis' 2022 gubernatorial re-election.

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So then by that math DeSantis still raised over double what Trump did ($150 mill minus $82 mill=$68 mill, Trump raised $35 mill and had a full quarter to only half of one for DeSantis since announcing). DeSantis had a big edge to start and now is greatly expanding that edge while Trump is blowing through cash on lawyers.

It's all money in the end and DeSantis has a lot more and is raising a lot more any way you slice it. He's also getting it from more people and has a lot more room to run fundraising wise. Trump has scared off virtually every big money donor at this point with his antics, most of those folks backed him big in 2020.

Unless you think Trump is going to self finance he is in serious money trouble.

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Here's DeSantis's speech. I don't see many MAGA hats in the crowd and plenty of applause.


Hard to find pictures at the moment as I'm getting a ton of the protest pictures instead of pictures from the event.

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Great speech. Not sure what's not to like about this guy.

welp we know Trump has one less supporter today

QAnon leader Michael Protzman dies in dirtbike accident, followers claim it's just a hoax
By Katherine Donlevy July 6, 2023 5:43pm

A leader of the QAnon conspiracy cult died last weekend in a dirt bike accident though his minions believe his death is fabricated and part of a larger plan.

Michael Protzman, 60, known to his followers as Negative 48, died Friday in the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota a week after an accident at the Meadow Valley Motocross track in Millville, Minnesota, VICE News confirmed.

Protzman served as a god-like figure to his thousands of cult followers since rising to notoriety in 2021.

He helped convince thousands of followers that former president Donald Trump was actually John F. Kennedy, Jr. in disguise.

Protzman gained widespread attention in November 2021 after ushering hundreds to Dealey Plaza in Dallas, Texas, where he claimed JFK, along with JFK, Jr., would reappear 58 years after his assassination. According to the theory, the late Democratic president would then "reinstate Trump as commander-in-chief and help him in carrying out the persecution of a global cabal of pedophilic, blood-drinking liberal elites that QAnon devotees believe run the world," Chron reported.

When JFK failed to make his presence known, Protzman backpedaled and brought the group back six months later after stating Trump spoke to him in code during a rally to tell him he had gotten the original date wrong.

His conspiracies continued to alter in the following months until he settled on the theory that he was in direct contact with Trump, who was JFK Jr. in disguise.

Hundreds of his minions ditched their families and careers and spent their life savings to blindly follow Protzman's ever-changing teachings over the years.

Protzman's faithful followers are so deeply entrenched in his conspiracies that they believe their leader's recent death is just another hoax.

Shelly Mullinax is one of Protzman's earliest followers but had a falling out with him and other members of the group last year. She remains convinced of the conspiracies surrounding JFK and said only part of the leader died. She told VICE that "the evil version" of Protzman was killed in the accident, while the good part of his being who is actually JFK Jr. in a mask is alive and continuing his work.

POLITICS DeSantis had $150 million announced in second quarter

Inside Ron DeSantis' Donations That Crushed Donald Trump's
BY NICK REYNOLDS ON 7/6/23 AT 6:02 PM EDT NEWSWEEK

Ron DeSantis might still be lagging behind Donald Trump in the polls. His fundraising, however, is another story.

According to numbers first shared with Fox News Thursday, the DeSantis campaign reported raising a massive $150 million haul between his campaign and his affiliated Never Back Down political action committee, far exceeding the $35 million reported by the Trump campaign earlier in the week.

Though DeSantis still lags in most national polls, that sum, Never Back Down CEO Chris Jankowski said in a statement after the release, "shows what a formidable movement is behind Governor DeSantis," demonstrating that the "future of the Republican Party is Governor Ron DeSantis."

For comparison, Vivek Ramaswamyanother candidate in the raceseeded his campaign with $10 million of his own money, while figures like Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy reported raising just $6 million in second quarter fundraising numbers shared with the press after the Federal Elections Commission's June 30th close of books deadline.

Meanwhile, Tim Scott, one of the strongest fundraisers in the U.S. Senate, reported a total of $21.9 million in its account as of March 31, raising just $2 million in his campaign's first 24 hours after launching in May.

However, DeSantis' fundraising volume, while impressive, comes with an asterisk.

Of the $150 million raised, $130 million reportedly came from Never Back Downan organization that already reportedly had $500,000 in the bank prior to DeSantis' decision to enter the race. Of that $130 million, some $82.5 million of the organization's account balance came directly from a controversial funds transfer from an account DeSantis previously used to finance his gubernatorial bids in Florida.

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POLITICS DeSantis had $150 million announced in second quarter

Inside Ron DeSantis' Donations That Crushed Donald Trump's
BY NICK REYNOLDS ON 7/6/23 AT 6:02 PM EDT NEWSWEEK

Ron DeSantis might still be lagging behind Donald Trump in the polls. His fundraising, however, is another story.

According to numbers first shared with Fox News Thursday, the DeSantis campaign reported raising a massive $150 million haul between his campaign and his affiliated Never Back Down political action committee, far exceeding the $35 million reported by the Trump campaign earlier in the week.

Though DeSantis still lags in most national polls, that sum, Never Back Down CEO Chris Jankowski said in a statement after the release, "shows what a formidable movement is behind Governor DeSantis," demonstrating that the "future of the Republican Party is Governor Ron DeSantis."

For comparison, Vivek Ramaswamyanother candidate in the raceseeded his campaign with $10 million of his own money, while figures like Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy reported raising just $6 million in second quarter fundraising numbers shared with the press after the Federal Elections Commission's June 30th close of books deadline.

Meanwhile, Tim Scott, one of the strongest fundraisers in the U.S. Senate, reported a total of $21.9 million in its account as of March 31, raising just $2 million in his campaign's first 24 hours after launching in May.

However, DeSantis' fundraising volume, while impressive, comes with an asterisk.

Of the $150 million raised, $130 million reportedly came from Never Back Downan organization that already reportedly had $500,000 in the bank prior to DeSantis' decision to enter the race. Of that $130 million, some $82.5 million of the organization's account balance came directly from a controversial funds transfer from an account DeSantis previously used to finance his gubernatorial bids in Florida.

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Whenever someone gives you that kind of money they're expecting a return on their investment
Nobody loves the country that much to just give money without some benefit.

I don't feel this makes the desantis stronger I think it makes him weaker. Because we all know he's being enslaved to the establishment

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Here's DeSantis's speech. I don't see many MAGA hats in the crowd and plenty of applause.


Hard to find pictures at the moment as I'm getting a ton of the protest pictures instead of pictures from the event.

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Great speech. Not sure what's not to like about this guy.

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He doesn't act like a petulant bully trying to "own the libs" via raging mean tweets.

At this point there really isn't much else to think that differs from the two. One is an adult who can win, and the other has a following that sees him as the second coming of who knows what, but probably of himself.

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One is an adult who can win, and the other has a following that sees him as the second coming of who knows what

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JFK Jr, apparently!

And DeSantis still can't catch Trump. Try harder.

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And DeSantis still can't catch Trump. Try harder.

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Lol we haven't even had one debate yet, and your orange hero will either 1. Skip the debates because he's a coward. Or 2. Allow a national audience to see that he's become an even more unhinged sideshow clown.

https://rumble.com/v2yl2fy-fox-news-panel-worries-desantis-ran-too-early-and-is-ruining-his-2028-chanc.html

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I still don't think Trump would actually hand it off to desantis, or anyone else really. I think if trump wins in 24, trump Jr is running in 28

I hate these arguments because they lead to infighting and entrenchment.

It is simple, if you are a conservative vote however you want in the primary. Then get behind whoever the nominee is in the general.

I am a Desantis guy, but I would crawl through glass to vote for either one.

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Lol we haven't even had one debate yet, and your orange hero will either 1. Skip the debates because he's a coward. Or 2. Allow a national audience to see that he's become an even more unhinged sideshow clown.

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I agree about the benefits of open debates, but sadly I don't think it's going to happen. Debates these days are nothing more than social media fodder due to biased questioning and moderation. Not enough candidates are "pinned down" with nuanced questions or poignant follow up questions.

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Most of the DeSantis supporters on this board disagree with you. They believe insulting anyone who disagrees with them is the best move. They also preach conservatism, but will not support Trump in the general because he's not conservative enough.

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You have anything other than still shots?

ETA: Just looking for video, no offense intended.

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Lol we haven't even had one debate yet, and your orange hero will either 1. Skip the debates because he's a coward. Or 2. Allow a national audience to see that he's become an even more unhinged sideshow clown.

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I agree about the benefits of open debates, but sadly I don't think it's going to happen. Debates these days are nothing more than social media fodder due to biased questioning and moderation. Not enough candidates are "pinned down" with nuanced questions or poignant follow up questions.

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I think a debate without trump likely has plenty of serious questions and follow ups. If he does decide to show up it will undoubtedly turn into a clown show. Yet another reason why having him gone from politics for good will be a positive step for everyone.

Thinking as a strategist, it makes sense for him.