OFFICIAL ****Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis*** thread...

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seriously how can any person over the age of 12 support this guy?!?!
One of the great mysteries of the world.
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aggie93 said:

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Trump folks now going after DeSantis for being mean to reporters. lol. DeSantis is in the middle of an event talking to voters and answering anything they ask him and the reporter asks him "Why aren't you taking questions from voters?" He responds, "Are you blind?" Apparently this is bad and he should be nice to reporters asking stupid questions I guess? I mean Trump is certainly known for that.



The fact that his biggest pumpers/fluffers online are Loomer, Brooze-witz, and this "johnny maga" clown says a lot about the state of his campaign.
Trump folks are going all in with this when everyone else is laughing at the AP Reporter and praising DeSantis. Wut?



The mental gymnastics for a Trump supporter to make this statement are astounding. Another one tried to say it was a "voter" he responded to and when it was pointed out it was a reporter they responded with "Reporters are voters too!"

Trump folks saying DeSantis is acting like an ******* though is just chef's kiss!



The temerity of a Trump supporter being offended by DeSantis giving it to a reporter is laughable. Trump says the dumbest most juvenile things imaginable regularly, but this, this is a bridge too far for them...
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History repeating with Hillary supporters bagging on President Trump again.
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LMCane said:

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Wow the clips out of this thing today just keep piling up. Trump is just not built for meetings like this, he needs a crowd of folks that think everything he says is awesome and cheer him on.




I am simply dumbfounded how awful of a politician Trump has become.

and how ANY rational and intelligent Republican can support that buffoon.

speaking about "name changes of syllabic, it's syllabic- during a campaign you should change it before or after not during I liked it better before some people don't know what I am talking about"

seriously how cany any person over the age of 12 support this guy?!?!
Trump can still put the magic together he just can't do it consistently. He was great in East Palestine and the CNN Town Hall. A lot of voters aren't paying close attention yet and are nostalgic for Trump and just look at Trump v Biden and he seems like the better choice.

It takes time for people to change their minds and DeSantis is playing the long game in the way he is running his campaign with smaller events, interviews with conservative media, and focus on policy. He's introducing himself and focused on building his infrastructure not doing big events that drive national media coverage. It's a smart and strategic play because as much as the folks here are following this race we forget that there won't be any votes that matter for, I mean the date for the Iowa Caucuses haven't even been set yet we are so far out.

It's a marathon not a sprint and the crazy thing is a year from now we still likely won't know who is going to win for certain.
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To be fair I'm not sure how much before the event this pic was taken but there were tickets still available when the event started apparently.


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"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
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Trump is going to act more deranged and insane this time around..

If Biden Is Almost Senile . . . What Is Trump?

"This is an actual Truth Social post from former president Donald Trump yesterday:

Have you heard that "Rob" DeSanctimonious wants to change his name, again. He is demanding that people call him DeeeSantis, rather than DaSantis. Actually, I like "Da" better, a nicer flow, so I am happy he is changing it. He gets very upset when people, including reporters, don't pronounce it correctly. Therefore, he shouldn't mind, DeSanctimonious?

These are apparently the sorts of thoughts that consume the mind of one of the four people most likely to take the oath of office on the steps of the U.S. Capitol on January 20, 2025. (The other three are Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and Ron DeSantis. While some other figure could surprise us all by leaping to the Democratic or Republican presidential nomination, or even by mounting a competitive independent bid, right now, all other figures are extreme underdogs.)

By the way, the next evidence that DeSantis "gets very upset when people, including reporters, don't pronounce it correctly," will be the first evidence.

The former president seems to think it is a real power move to call the Florida governor "Rob."

I suppose this is a demonstration that DeSantis is so unimportant that Trump can't be bothered to remember his first name. But this demonstration of DeSantis's alleged unimportance is undermined by the fact that Trump's Truth Social feed is an endless tirade against DeSantis. If you genuinely don't care about someone, you don't spend a lot of time and energy talking about them. Trump's social-media activity makes him look obsessed with DeSantis, not above him. Trump is still sharing memes about the failure of the Elon MuskDeSantis Twitter Spaces event. It's been a week, and DeSantis has done a full schedule of events and interviews. The world has moved on. Trump hasn't.

These candidates will attempt to win your vote by laying out proposals on how they would counter the rise of China, secure our border and build an immigration system that works, roll back the federal bureaucracy and administrative state, make sure schools are preparing our children for the challenges of the future economy, stem and roll back the rising tide of crime and chaos in our cities, deal with the ever-increasing federal debt, and address the ominous indicator of a shrinking birth rate and a general darkening pessimism about America's future.

And then there's going to be Trump, who may well spend part of a debate mocking DeSantis for allegedly not knowing how to pronounce his own name.

Way back in the prehistoric times of my high-school years, I had a drama teacher who loved using the word "moreso." The 2024 cycle Trump will be the Trump of 2020, only "moreso." More insulting, more raging, more unhinged, more obsessed with irrelevant minutiae and what the media is saying about him why would any American president get so worked up about what Don Lemon or Mika Brzezinski are saying about him? and even more reflexively lashing out against anything he perceives as a slight or disloyalty. (Lord knows I've had disagreements with Kayleigh McEnany, but she was about as hardworking and dedicated a staffer as Trump had in his administration.

Trump served up an out-of-the-blue tirade calling for Fox News to fire McEnany calling her "milktoast," his spelling because she cited a poll he didn't like. It's a sign that during the 2024 campaign, Trump will turn against and lash out against anyone for anything. When a guy runs around saying "I am your retribution," it's a sign that he gets up in the morning hungering for his own retribution.

Why is Trump attacking DeSantis as an advocate of lockdowns during the pandemic, when we all remember the opposite? (The Editors set the record straight today.) Because the truth doesn't matter to him, and he'll just grab whatever argument sounds or feels effective at any given moment, often ignoring the fact that he's said the opposite recently. (Notice that DeSantis's announcement video included the line, "truth must be our foundation.")

But the other dirty little secret is that Trump doesn't really know what he thinks about a lot of topics. Regarding Disney, back in April, Trump argued that DeSantis was being too combative with the entertainment conglomerate and recklessly endangering his state's economy:

DeSanctus is being absolutely destroyed by Disney. His original P.R. plan fizzled, so now he's going back with a new one in order to save face. Disney's next move will be the announcement that no more money will be invested in Florida because of the Governor In fact, they could even announce a slow withdrawal or sale of certain properties, or the whole thing. Watch! That would be a killer. In the meantime, this is all so unnecessary, a political STUNT! Ron should work on the squatter MESS!

That . . . is not aligned with the thinking of many Republicans who see Disney as an aggressive colossus in the culture wars that needs to be reined in one whose quasi-governmental status under the Reedy Creek Improvement District agreement was long-overdue for revision.

Now, Trump's argument is that Disney is too woke, and it's somehow DeSantis's fault for not stopping it earlier:

Disney has become a Woke and Disgusting shadow of its former self, with people actually hating it. Must go back to what it once was, or the "market" will do irreparable damage. This all happened during the Governorship of "Rob" DeSanctimonious. Instead of complaining now, for publicity reasons only, he should have stopped it long ago. Would have been easy to do Still is!

Trump doesn't spell out how he would stop Disney from becoming "woke," but he merely asserts that it would be, and will be, easy to do. Probably just as easy as ending the RussiaUkraine war in one day. Or as easy as ending birthright citizenship within one day.

You notice Trump keeps telling us about all these seemingly difficult and challenging tasks that he will get done in no time, that for some reason he never got around to doing during the four years he was president.

I'm going to let you in on a not-so-little not-so-secret. Trump has little to no idea how to do any of these things.

He likely thinks he can just write executive orders, and hopes they'll survive judicial review assuming he thinks about judicial review at all. Trump never bothers to do his homework, and thus has no idea how anything works. We see this over and over again. While attempting to repeal Obamacare, he fumed at House Republicans, "Forget about the little s***." The alleged little s***" were key details of the proposal "language that would leave Obamacare's 'essential health benefits' in place, the community rating provision that limited what insurers could charge certain patients, and whether the next two steps of Speaker Paul Ryan's master plan were even feasible."

This isn't a preference for looking at the big picture; this is a lack of patience or interest in the details of policy which can be enormously consequential. Trump and his administration spent years "renegotiating" NAFTA, only to end up with something that was hard to distinguish from the original trade agreement. Trump cares a lot more about getting a deal-signing ceremony than what's actually in the deal he signs.

Early in his presidency, he whined, "Nobody knew health care could be so complicated." A few months later, he complained, "This is more work than in my previous life. I thought it would be easier." In office, Trump's daily schedule grew lighter and lighter, year by year. Vast swaths of weekdays were set aside for "executive time," which was a euphemism for "unstructured time Trump spends tweeting, phoning friends, and watching television."

But hey, Trump turns 77 this month. I'm sure he'll work harder and be sharper, more focused, and more diligent and detail-oriented than he was four years ago.

There is a good chance that the Democratic Party's presidential nominee will be Joe Biden an 80-year-old man who mumbles and struggles to maintain anything close to the traditional presidential schedule. As Axios reported:

White House officials say it's difficult to schedule public or private events with the president in the morning, in the evening, or on weekends: The vast majority of Biden's public events happen on weekdays, between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m.

Which Republican figure do you think offers the best contrast with Biden?"
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LMCane said:

aggie93 said:

Wow the clips out of this thing today just keep piling up. Trump is just not built for meetings like this, he needs a crowd of folks that think everything he says is awesome and cheer him on.




I am simply dumbfounded how awful of a politician Trump has become.

and how ANY rational and intelligent Republican can support that buffoon.

speaking about "name changes of syllabic, it's syllabic- during a campaign you should change it before or after not during I liked it better before some people don't know what I am talking about"

seriously how cany any person over the age of 12 support this guy?!?!

This feels sort of like Jeb's "please clap" moment.
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But the other dirty little secret is that Trump doesn't really know what he thinks about a lot of topics.


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Breaking: Trump calls Gaines a transphobic *****, who is ugly and really not that great of a swimmer.
Pretty sure most of you don’t know me.
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Trump's campaign is just filled with talk of images and polls along with insults. I mean does this actually make anyone want to vote for him?


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Wow, Trump and the MSM are going in the gutter fast and hard already. Some Trump idiot says that DeSantis "looks like he is on the spectrum" and Politico finds some Dem to denounce it and say we shouldn't say bad things about Autistic people. DeSantis isn't autistic or on the spectrum by any account but they are essentially saying he is because a Trump influencer just tweeted some nonsense.


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I guess the heat became too much, because the official Trump Instagram page is now limiting comments, at least for the cheesy anti-DeSantis stuff.
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CREAg87 said:

I guess the heat became too much, because the official Trump Instagram page is now limiting comments, at least for the cheesy anti-DeSantis stuff.


No more mean comments
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Trumpists have no problem calling the most successful Governor in the nation "autistic"

and yet how dare ANYONE bring up the fact that Trump has a narcissistic personality disorder.
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This is how you handle a leftist heckler.


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Rep. James Spillane (R-Deerfield) was on stage with President Trump at the Doubletree in Manchester on April 27 when the former president announced that more than 50 GOP House members had endorsed his candidacy.

But on Thursday, Spillane told NH Journal he was pulling his public endorsement of Trump and backing Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in response to Trump's treatment of the popular Fox News personality Kayleigh McEnany.

"I can no longer continue endorsing former President Trump," Spillane said.

"I am officially withdrawing my endorsement, as his most recent attack on Kayleigh McEnany is beyond comprehension and explanation. Against my deepest hopes that Trump had learned some measure of control, he has attacked those who have been his staunchest supporters with no regard for their loyalty."

Spillane is the fourth state representative to flip from Trump to DeSantis in the past few weeks.

Another local politician flips from Trump to DeSantis
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aggie93 said:

This is how you handle a leftist heckler.



Sorry, according to the Trump geniuses on Twitter this was actually staged!


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aggie93 said:

aggie93 said:

This is how you handle a leftist heckler.



Sorry, according to the Trump geniuses on Twitter this was actually staged!



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Who WON'T meet this criteria?
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. . . said:


Trump won't participate if for no other reason than the last requirement.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Trump folks are making it hard to even follow them anymore on Twitter. It's all focusing on any mannerism that DeSantis has or does and blowing it up and calling him awkward or fake or whatever. Lots of lunacy like this:


"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

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Rapier108 said:

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Trump won't participate if for no other reason than the last requirement.
Well, if he's so confident in his chances in the primary, why would that matter?
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Rapier108 said:

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Trump won't participate if for no other reason than the last requirement.


Trump will participate.

He will go back and forth on whether he will or not to rile up the DeSantis supporters over and over, then commit to the debate right before the deadline, but will say during the debate that he's not sure if he can agree to the supporting the nomination whomever it ends up being. That's what gets him the most clicks and attention.
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Definitely NOT a cult!


"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

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I can't imagine that is actually true and authentic

no way that Trump will ever agree to support the eventual nominee

and unlikely that Ronna Romney would go against his wishes

but life gets more interesting every day!

if the RNC had a modicum of common sense - it would be 5% minimum in the polls.
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Jack Squat 83 said:

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Breaking: Trump calls Gaines a transphobic *****, who is ugly and really not that great of a swimmer.
Wow.

Trump always attacking from the left. And looking terrible doing it. Does this moron have any idea he is killing his campaign.
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aggie93 said:

Definitely NOT a cult!





MAGADONIANs….that's a new one
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LMCane said:

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I can't imagine that is actually true and authentic

no way that Trump will ever agree to support the eventual nominee

and unlikely that Ronna Romney would go against his wishes

but life gets more interesting every day!

if the RNC had a modicum of common sense - it would be 5% minimum in the polls.


The 1% is interesting. Sounds like they want to avoid a Trump versus DeSantis scenario and have a full stage (of chaos) where the optic will be - Trump vs everyone else.
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Zarathustra said:

LMCane said:

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I can't imagine that is actually true and authentic

no way that Trump will ever agree to support the eventual nominee

and unlikely that Ronna Romney would go against his wishes

but life gets more interesting every day!

if the RNC had a modicum of common sense - it would be 5% minimum in the polls.


The 1% is interesting. Sounds like they want to avoid a Trump versus DeSantis scenario and have a full stage (of chaos) where the optic will be - Trump vs everyone else.

Yep, and everyone attacking DeSantis.
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I was going to put this in the worthless Ronna thread but fits here too.


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The debates will be designed to ensure Trump gets the nomination, the goal of the Democrats, media, and the only and forever Trumpsters.
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