OFFICIAL ****Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis*** thread...

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3:18p, 5/30/23

I don't believe trump was pro-lockdown.

I think this is one of the areas where he had no clue what to do - and In those cases he usually listens to the wrong people. But he has to look like he knows everything so he keeps doubling down.


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In reply to Opalka • 3:46p, 5/30/23
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LMCane said:
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Trump denigrating DeSantis military service because Pete Buttigieg also served. Brilliant strategy!


Doubling down



LMAO

only a draft dodger and his cronies who also never served

would have the chutzpah to attack a VETERAN who served alongside the SEALS in Iraq.

but Trump is so patriotic he disparages McCain and DeSantis for them serving in the Navy-while he was playing with his daddy's money in Manhattan.
Let's try not to glamourize the Desantis' military history. He was a legal advisor, period. Not to mention that he's never had a real job, always a public servant...since that point is brought up a lot about political figures never having real jobs.


First off, DeSantis is pretty humble about his service. That said he was an Honors Grad from Harvard that is still paying off loans and joined the service instead of making serious bank in the private sector. He was in Iraq and Gitmo, it's not like he was chilling in a Pentagon office. He gave up a lot to serve.
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In reply to Showertime at the Bidens • 3:48p, 5/30/23
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Zarathustra said:

I don't believe trump was pro-lockdown.

I think this is one of the areas where he had no clue what to do - and In those cases he usually listens to the wrong people. But he has to look like he knows everything so he keeps doubling down.




Soooooo, for all intents and purposes he was pro-lockdown.

Or is this another case where we're supposed to ignore what he actually repeatedly says and instead believe what we're now being told he really believed?
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In reply to Showertime at the Bidens • 4:05p, 5/30/23
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Zarathustra said:

I don't believe trump was pro-lockdown.

I think this is one of the areas where he had no clue what to do - and In those cases he usually listens to the wrong people. But he has to look like he knows everything so he keeps doubling down.


It doesn't help that he keeps doubling down on RDs response, and never admitting his culpability in everything that happened. I agree with the following:


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4:16p, 5/30/23
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I don't think Trump was ideologically pro-lockdown per-se; like with many things Trump cares first and foremost how he is viewed for having a certain position. This is likely what lead him to hiring Faux-ci and Brix and attacking governors (and countries, see Sweden) for not locking down hard enough or opening early.
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In reply to Showertime at the Bidens • 4:16p, 5/30/23
Zarathustra said:

I don't believe trump was pro-lockdown.

I think this is one of the areas where he had no clue what to do - and In those cases he usually listens to the wrong people. But he has to look like he knows everything so he keeps doubling down.




This is pretty accurate. Trump isn't all that well-read and probably doesn't study up on policy.

He has a narrow expertise tied to part of the economy and strong-arming foreign leaders to some extent. But outside of those areas, he is pretty clueless and has to rely on advisors heavily. Which isn't great since he frequently picks bad advisors.
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In reply to . . . • 6:02p, 5/30/23
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Trump lying out of his ass to attack DeSantis.

New York got swept by the virus in the early wave, Florida did not.

By the time wave 2 showed up a few months later, there were not very many people left in New York, especially NYC, the virus could infect.
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In reply to . . . • 6:02p, 5/30/23
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Trump teaming up with democrats to get at DeSantis. Dude has lost his mind.

Anyone want to defend this or tell us how it's a proven warrior move?
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. . . said:

Cuomo endorses Trump!
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In reply to BigBrother • 6:30p, 5/30/23
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BigBrother said:
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Cuomo endorses Trump!
Trump has his running mate!

Unfreaking believable. I can't wait to hear the Trump folks try and spin this. Sorry but if you opposed lockdowns or Covid policy and still are on the Trump Train you deserve what will happen if he wins. Wake up.
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6:34p, 5/30/23


Ron is speaking in Iowa
https://rumble.com/v2r0dq3-governor-desantis-delivers-remarks-at-our-great-american-comeback-event-in-.html
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In reply to aggie93 • 6:44p, 5/30/23
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BigBrother said:
. . . said:

Cuomo endorses Trump!
Trump has his running mate!

Unfreaking believable. I can't wait to hear the Trump folks try and spin this. Sorry but if you opposed lockdowns or Covid policy and still are on the Trump Train you deserve what will happen if he wins. Wake up.
They don't care. They wouldn't care if Trump actually picked Cuomo as his running mate. They would suddenly become the biggest Cuomo defenders on the planet.

You know, because 8 Trillion-D chess and all.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to . . . • 7:55p, 5/30/23
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Kayleigh "Milktoast". Wow. The guy is loyal to no one. It is crazy.
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7:58p, 5/30/23
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Trashing McEnany is next level stupid even for Trump. He is quickly running out of anyone from him Admin that he meets his test for rehire. I mean who is left at this point?

The funny thing I am noticing is that Trump's strategy of hiding out in MAL and staying off Twitter is working because no one goes to Truth except his fans. The more people hear him the more they are either reminded of what they didn't like or he gives them fresh new reasons to want to go another direction.
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In reply to Old May Banker • 7:59p, 5/30/23
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Trump teaming up with democrats to get at DeSantis. Dude has lost his mind.

Anyone want to defend this or tell us how it's a proven warrior move?
I said this would happen two month ago. The left wants nothing to do with DeSantis because unlike Trump he will beat their ass.
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I wish the Only and Forever Trumpers will tell who us who is going to work for Trump if by some chance he actually win the election because we know outside people like Lake, MTG, Loomer, Boebert, and Stone, no one would dare go near him, lest they be fired for now bowing down fast enough, and then trashed endlessly by Trump and his sycophants. Besides, working for Trump is the quickest way to be unemployable for years to come.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to aggie93 • 8:00p, 5/30/23
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Trashing McEnany is next level stupid even for Trump. He is quickly running out of anyone from him Admin that he meets his test for rehire. I mean who is left at this point?

The funny thing I am noticing is that Trump's strategy of hiding out in MAL and staying off Twitter is working because no one goes to Truth except his fans. The more people hear him the more they are either reminded of what they didn't like or he gives them fresh new reasons to want to go another direction.
All Trump cares about at this point is winning the primary so he can gloat about beating DeSantis.

He will burn it all down just for that, and his cult will follow him off the cliff to do it.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to aggie93 • 8:05p, 5/30/23
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Trashing McEnany is next level stupid even for Trump. He is quickly running out of anyone from him Admin that he meets his test for rehire. I mean who is left at this point?

The funny thing I am noticing is that Trump's strategy of hiding out in MAL and staying off Twitter is working because no one goes to Truth except his fans. The more people hear him the more they are either reminded of what they didn't like or he gives them fresh new reasons to want to go another direction.


It is basically just Mnuchin and Pompeo left. Though I'm not sure either would sign up for round 2.

Barr, Tillerson, Mattis, Sessions, Chao, DeVos, Prebius, Mulvaney, Haley, Pence, Bolton, McEnany are all dragged in public by the guy. And they made up the bulk of his high level positions.
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8:15p, 5/30/23

Gee, I wonder why Trump didn't get anything accomplished with the Republican legislature while he was in office.

Image all the crap she took from the left and now has to take it from the guy she was defending.
I've been saying this for months, Trump won't find 2 sane people to work in his administration.

SAD! NOT GOOD!
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In reply to BoydCrowder13 • 8:16p, 5/30/23
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BoydCrowder13 said:
aggie93 said:
Trashing McEnany is next level stupid even for Trump. He is quickly running out of anyone from him Admin that he meets his test for rehire. I mean who is left at this point?

The funny thing I am noticing is that Trump's strategy of hiding out in MAL and staying off Twitter is working because no one goes to Truth except his fans. The more people hear him the more they are either reminded of what they didn't like or he gives them fresh new reasons to want to go another direction.


It is basically just Mnuchin and Pompeo left. Though I'm not sure either would sign up for round 2.

Barr, Tillerson, Mattis, Sessions, Chao, DeVos, Prebius, Mulvaney, Haley, Pence, Bolton, McEnany are all dragged in public by the guy. And they made up the bulk of his high level positions.
Can't imagine Pompeo boards that train, he is pretty Pro Ukraine as well so that won't fly. I guess he hasn't trashed Mnunchin or Leithizer (probably his best hire) but it's really getting to be a small list now.
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In reply to . . . • 8:19p, 5/30/23
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. . . said:

He said that about Kayleigh? Oh my! People loved her. It will be great hearing them talk about how ugly she is now.

Someone needs to ask Laura Loomer to find out if maybe Kayleigh also faked her cancer!

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Rapier108 said:
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I wish the Only and Forever Trumpers will tell who us who is going to work for Trump if by some chance he actually win the election because we know outside people like Lake, MTG, Loomer, Boebert, and Stone, no one would dare go near him, lest they be fired for now bowing down fast enough, and then trashed endlessly by Trump and his sycophants. Besides, working for Trump is the quickest way to be unemployable for years to come.
They are slowly moving away. The more they hear him and they also hear DeSantis it's almost inevitable. Let them come around on their own time.
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In reply to aggie93 • 8:32p, 5/30/23
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Susie Wiles registered as a lobbyist for Ukraine in 2019.
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In reply to BigBrother • 8:52p, 5/30/23
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He doubled-down


Doubling down on inanity. And the Trump sycophants will continue to make excuses for this.
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8:56p, 5/30/23
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Excellent DeSantis ad just dropped. The thing I like most is he clearly reads the details of every bill and considers the consequences and loopholes. That's a huge separation between him and Trump and why the Dems fear him. He knows the devil is in the details.


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In reply to aggie93 • 8:59p, 5/30/23
aggie93 said:
Rapier108 said:
. . . said:
I wish the Only and Forever Trumpers will tell who us who is going to work for Trump if by some chance he actually win the election because we know outside people like Lake, MTG, Loomer, Boebert, and Stone, no one would dare go near him, lest they be fired for now bowing down fast enough, and then trashed endlessly by Trump and his sycophants. Besides, working for Trump is the quickest way to be unemployable for years to come.
They are slowly moving away. The more they hear him and they also hear DeSantis it's almost inevitable. Let them come around on their own time.
They're defending him on the Trump Temple aka Free Republic. A few people are calling out his stupidity, but they're of course far outnumbered by the cult and attacked for doing so.

You can find countless posts from her time as press secretary where they all fawned over her. Now the same people see her as an enemy, someone who must be destroyed for saying something Trump didn't like.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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9:02p, 5/30/23
Exactly


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Rapier108 said:
aggie93 said:
Rapier108 said:
. . . said:
I wish the Only and Forever Trumpers will tell who us who is going to work for Trump if by some chance he actually win the election because we know outside people like Lake, MTG, Loomer, Boebert, and Stone, no one would dare go near him, lest they be fired for now bowing down fast enough, and then trashed endlessly by Trump and his sycophants. Besides, working for Trump is the quickest way to be unemployable for years to come.
They are slowly moving away. The more they hear him and they also hear DeSantis it's almost inevitable. Let them come around on their own time.
They're defending him on the Trump Temple aka Free Republic. A few people are calling out his stupidity, but they're of course far outnumbered by the cult and attacked for doing so.

You can find countless posts from her time as press secretary where they all fawned over her. Now the same people see her as an enemy, someone who must be destroyed for saying something Trump didn't like.
On Free Republic where they made people take an oath of loyalty to Trump? Uh, ok. There will of course be some folks that are too far gone but that's a small percentage. Even among them many will just slowly melt away. You can always find echo chambers out there though, especially when you restrict speech.
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In reply to aggie93 • 9:19p, 5/30/23
aggie93 said:
Rapier108 said:
. . . said:
I wish the Only and Forever Trumpers will tell who us who is going to work for Trump if by some chance he actually win the election because we know outside people like Lake, MTG, Loomer, Boebert, and Stone, no one would dare go near him, lest they be fired for now bowing down fast enough, and then trashed endlessly by Trump and his sycophants. Besides, working for Trump is the quickest way to be unemployable for years to come.
They are slowly moving away. The more they hear him and they also hear DeSantis it's almost inevitable. Let them come around on their own time.


Yea, even on here there are what, like 5-7 always trumpers left? And at least a couple of those are likely just trolling. There's also a reason they have avoided this thread like the plague. There is no defense for what trump is doing, if anything he's lucky all of his insane rants are staying on truth where almost no one will see them.
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9:41p, 5/30/23
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Wow Trump is losing all the marbles. At this rate he'd probably come close to losing TX and FL on Election Day if he was the nominee. Let's hope he loses this primary
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aggie93 said:
Rapier108 said:
aggie93 said:
Rapier108 said:
. . . said:
I wish the Only and Forever Trumpers will tell who us who is going to work for Trump if by some chance he actually win the election because we know outside people like Lake, MTG, Loomer, Boebert, and Stone, no one would dare go near him, lest they be fired for now bowing down fast enough, and then trashed endlessly by Trump and his sycophants. Besides, working for Trump is the quickest way to be unemployable for years to come.
They are slowly moving away. The more they hear him and they also hear DeSantis it's almost inevitable. Let them come around on their own time.
They're defending him on the Trump Temple aka Free Republic. A few people are calling out his stupidity, but they're of course far outnumbered by the cult and attacked for doing so.

You can find countless posts from her time as press secretary where they all fawned over her. Now the same people see her as an enemy, someone who must be destroyed for saying something Trump didn't like.
On Free Republic where they made people take an oath of loyalty to Trump? Uh, ok. There will of course be some folks that are too far gone but that's a small percentage. Even among them many will just slowly melt away. You can always find echo chambers out there though, especially when you restrict speech.
The thread they had about it was deleted by the owner for "TDS".

In other words, one too many people didn't back Trump. I bet they all got banned.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:
aggie93 said:
Rapier108 said:
aggie93 said:
Rapier108 said:
. . . said:
I wish the Only and Forever Trumpers will tell who us who is going to work for Trump if by some chance he actually win the election because we know outside people like Lake, MTG, Loomer, Boebert, and Stone, no one would dare go near him, lest they be fired for now bowing down fast enough, and then trashed endlessly by Trump and his sycophants. Besides, working for Trump is the quickest way to be unemployable for years to come.
They are slowly moving away. The more they hear him and they also hear DeSantis it's almost inevitable. Let them come around on their own time.
They're defending him on the Trump Temple aka Free Republic. A few people are calling out his stupidity, but they're of course far outnumbered by the cult and attacked for doing so.

You can find countless posts from her time as press secretary where they all fawned over her. Now the same people see her as an enemy, someone who must be destroyed for saying something Trump didn't like.
On Free Republic where they made people take an oath of loyalty to Trump? Uh, ok. There will of course be some folks that are too far gone but that's a small percentage. Even among them many will just slowly melt away. You can always find echo chambers out there though, especially when you restrict speech.
The thread they had about it was deleted by the owner for "TDS".

In other words, one too many people didn't back Trump. I bet they all got banned.
Exactly, that's a Trump fan Safe Space.
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10:02p, 5/30/23
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Trump telling Klaus Schwab to his face that he has done a great job.


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