Report: Bragg will charge Daniel Penny in Jordan Neeley's death NYC subway

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aggiehawg
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FNC is reporting this live. No clue as to which charges but Bragg is charging by information instead of going before a grand jury.
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aggiehawg said:

FNC is reporting this live. No clue as to which charges but Bragg is charging by information instead of going before a grand jury.


They don't want to get it before a grand jury. I can understand why because the DA might have to answer uncomfortable questions.
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Irish 2.0
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No one here is shocked by that Soros stooge's action
Manhattan
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If he had the guy in a headlock for 15 minutes then he is probably going to prison. If it was just between subway stops then probably not.
Rapier108
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Of course.

There is no rule of law or justice in New York City.

All crimes are first run through the political filter with the political affiliation and race of the perp and/or victim the determining factors if someone will be charged.
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Political ambitions and politics themselves should have no place in legal matters.
Coog97
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Can't we all just learn to be good, cooperative little victims, instead of defending ourselves or those incapable of doing so?!?!? That's so racist!!!
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Stay out of leftist run areas. You will not get Justice if you aren't among the chosen.
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He should flee jurisdiction.

Go somewhere NYC democRATS won't go.
Like the Texas/Mexico border.
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aggiehawg
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TxTarpon said:

He should flee jurisdiction.

Go somewhere NYC democRATS won't go.
Like the Texas/Mexico border.
He is supporsed to turn himself in tomorrow morning at 8:00 AM.
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Our governments work against us..has everyone ingested that fact yet? It's all right in front of us.
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aggiehawg said:

TxTarpon said:

He should flee jurisdiction.

Go somewhere NYC democRATS won't go.
Like the Texas/Mexico border.
He is supporsed to turn himself in tomorrow morning at 8:00 AM.
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We will never give up our guns Steve, we don't care if there is a mass shooting every day of the week.
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Trajan88
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I have been on a NY subway when people had melt-downs (10+ years ago).

I am sure the environment is infinitely worse these days.

Escape from New York... now.
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TxTarpon said:

He should flee jurisdiction.


If i was him, I would already be gone.
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AggieKatie2 said:
ETX is honestly starting to scare me a bit as someone who may be trigger happy.
AGHouston11
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The message is you are not to try to help protect victims - you just record the crime on your phone and report

It's a special city that does this for a criminal arrested 40 times and is suspected of trying to kill someone days before by pushing them into a subway train
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https://www.givesendgo.com/daniel_penny
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Manhattan said:

If he had the guy in a headlock for 15 minutes then he is probably going to prison. If it was just between subway stops then probably not.


I have been in headlocks for 6-7 minutes before. Didn't have a timer so could be shorter or longer. Point is, if Perry didn't have a secure hold on his neck whether it be a bad position or a chin tuck then no damage can be done. The time he had a secure position and knew he had a secure hold is the crucial element here.

If he knew he had a good choke and left it there for 15 minutes which is near impossible human strength then yes he deserves manslaughter. I don't think that is the case.

Dude threatened innocent lives and was a known terror on the subway. He ****ed with the wrong bull that day.
aggiehawg
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Yesterday said:

Manhattan said:

If he had the guy in a headlock for 15 minutes then he is probably going to prison. If it was just between subway stops then probably not.


I have been in headlocks for 6-7 minutes before. Didn't have a timer so could be shorter or longer. Point is, if Perry didn't have a secure hold on his neck whether it be a bad position or a chin tuck then no damage can be done. The time he had a secure position and knew he had a secure hold is the crucial element here.

If he knew he had a good choke and left it there for 15 minutes which is near impossible human strength then yes he deserves manslaughter. I don't think that is the case.

Dude threatened innocent lives and was a known terror on the subway. He ****ed with the wrong bull that day.
I want to see the autopsy and tox report.
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Just another in a long list of reasons not to visit New York. The Marxists are running the show.
Trajan88
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When was the last time Bragg as D.A. rode the subway w/o security detail?

What would Bragg and his security detail have done to neutralize the situation? Tazer, truncheon, pistol, submission hold? And what if even using non-lethal methods the guy died?

This D.A. has the "luxury" of living in his own dream world, utopia while orhers suffer the reality.
aggiehawg
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Manslaughter in the second degree, Class E C Felony.

But this might be a placeholder for another indictment by a grand jury.

ETA: Misheard, now corrected.
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Manhattan said:

If he had the guy in a headlock for 15 minutes then he is probably going to prison. If it was just between subway stops then probably not.


New York: criminalizing normal people while making criminality normal.
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aggiehawg said:

FNC is reporting this live. No clue as to which charges but Bragg is charging by information instead of going before a grand jury.
Well that's a bunch of BS. I will say that if he gets a jury full of people used to riding the subway...he may get a fair trial. They know about the nut jobs in the transit system.
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Manhattan said:

If he had the guy in a headlock for 15 minutes then he is probably going to prison. If it was just between subway stops then probably not.
No one cares what you have to say. We know you will be cheerleading the leftist narrative no matter what.
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Corrupt judicial system. No hope for America. No different than the Justice Department and the FBI under Ray. Who, I believe is guilty of treason.
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Manhattan said:

If he had the guy in a headlock for 15 minutes then he is probably going to prison. If it was just between subway stops then probably not.


i agree it would have been better for the career criminal to try and attack other innocent people and maybe even push one on the tracks. i am also a big fan of favoring criminals over innocent people.

seriously you are part of the problem
jt2hunt
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You do not have enough information to make any type of accurate assessment of innocence or guilt.
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I want to see the autopsy and tox report.

Enough Fentanyl to bring down and elephant didn't matter with Floyd. The important thing is a white guy did something and someone died. Regardless of what that person did, white guy is guilty.
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Manhattan said:

If he had the guy in a headlock for 15 minutes then he is probably going to prison. If it was just between subway stops then probably not.
Eric Adams has already stated that he didn't have the guy in a headlock for 15 minutes but nobody expects you to be up to date on facts.
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Under New York law there are different terms used to describe criminal offenses related to causing the death of another person. Murder is defined as killing someone with the intent to do so, while manslaughter is defined as causing someone's death without the intent to do so. Manslaughter cases involve recklessness, negligence, or heat of passion. Under New York Penal Law 125.15 you could be prosecuted for manslaughter in the second degree if:
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    According to New York Penal Law 15.05(3), acting "recklessly" as used in the manslaughter in the second degree statute is defined as being aware that your actions present a substantial risk that someone could be killed and disregarding that risk.
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    Because manslaughter in the second degree is a class C felony, if you are convicted you could be sentenced to up to 15 years in state prison and be ordered to pay a substantial fine.
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    BluHorseShu said:

    aggiehawg said:

    FNC is reporting this live. No clue as to which charges but Bragg is charging by information instead of going before a grand jury.
    Well that's a bunch of BS. I will say that if he gets a jury full of people used to riding the subway...he may get a fair trial. They know about the nut jobs in the transit system.
    I've got to disagree there. He would need a highly select jury to even stand a chance of getting out of this one. We have seen waaaaay too many weird jury decisions in big cities. Dude is going up the river for trying to be a responsible human.

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    TheEternalPessimist said:

    Manhattan said:

    If he had the guy in a headlock for 15 minutes then he is probably going to prison. If it was just between subway stops then probably not.
    No one cares what you have to say. We know you will be cheerleading the leftist narrative no matter what.


    Then don't respond to me.
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    jt2hunt said:

    You do not have enough information to make any type of accurate assessment of innocence or guilt.


    Did you not read my post? I said if.
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    Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

    .

    seriously you are part of the problem


    The problem of living in a city with a murder rate lower than red cities and states?
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    Lots of black folks in southern red states. For some reason they kill each other at rates much higher than any other demographic.

    I know, I know. Never seems to change.
     
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