"We don't need teachers who are inexperienced with weapons……

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using them in classrooms in stressful situations with children involved!"

I actually saw people interviewed saying this. It's how the leftist anti gun media works. Nobody is proposing all teachers be armed. It would be on a voluntary basis. As a caveat, I would hope those that do decide to carry (where permitted) would take a CHL course, and maybe one could be designed just for teachers.

I know…….."Old man yells at cloud".
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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I am still trying to grasp that a meskin guy with Nazi ink and parents that don't speak English is classified as a right winger.


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CDUB98
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Don't forget white supremacist.
BlueSmoke
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Exactly - this was never about "arming teachers". It has always been about allowing teachers that take the time to earn their CDL and voluntarily carry of their own volition.
SMM48
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A lot more teachers in texas carry than folks realize
hunterntexas
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If you shoot up a school, mall, etc., you are automatically a radical right-wing white guy with a fully automatic AR regardless of actual facts.
CDUB98
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My largest concern is students ambushing a teacher and taking the weapon.

This looks like a case where biometric verification would be a good thing, but I don't know how reliable it is.
TxTarpon
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CDUB98 said:

Don't forget white supremacist.
Yeah
Dave Chappel is a visionary.
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Texans make the best songwriters because they are the best liars.-Rodney Crowell

We will never give up our guns Steve, we don't care if there is a mass shooting every day of the week.
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hunterntexas said:

If you shoot up a school, mall, etc., you are automatically a radical right-wing white guy with a fully automatic AR regardless of actual facts.
Yep
And when this happens it ain't a white guy
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hunterntexas
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Everyone knows "drive-bys" are 17-22 yo black guys...
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CDUB98 said:

My largest concern is students ambushing a teacher and taking the weapon.

This looks like a case where biometric verification would be a good thing, but I don't know how reliable it is.
The way our school district is doing it, those who carry must carry concealed, and only 3 administrators know who is carrying. I believe there is additional training required above and beyond the LTC.
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TxTarpon said:

I am still trying to grasp that a meskin guy with Nazi ink and parents that don't speak English is classified as a right winger.





He's not. He was just disaffected and using the faux nazi worship as his anti establishment acting out
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BlueSmoke said:

Exactly - this was never about "arming teachers". It has always been about allowing teachers that take the time to earn their CDL and voluntarily carry of their own volition.

Why would teachers want a commercial driver's license?
Shoefly!
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Slicer97 said:

CDUB98 said:

My largest concern is students ambushing a teacher and taking the weapon.

This looks like a case where biometric verification would be a good thing, but I don't know how reliable it is.
The way our school district is doing it, those who carry must carry concealed, and only 3 administrators know who is carrying. I believe there is additional training required above and beyond the LTC.

Yes you're right. Special training for inside and outside.
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TxTarpon said:

I am still trying to grasp that a meskin guy with Nazi ink and parents that don't speak English is classified as a right winger.
I think it's because he was a self ascribed "Right Wing Death Squad" member
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Are there any organizations out there that we can donate to that are helping arm teachers and get them training?
BlueSmoke
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Hullabaloonatic said:

TxTarpon said:

I am still trying to grasp that a meskin guy with Nazi ink and parents that don't speak English is classified as a right winger.
I think it's because he was a self ascribed "Right Wing Death Squad" member
The lie that won't die....
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BlueSmoke said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

TxTarpon said:

I am still trying to grasp that a meskin guy with Nazi ink and parents that don't speak English is classified as a right winger.
I think it's because he was a self ascribed "Right Wing Death Squad" member
The lie that won't die....
What lie?
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Hullabaloonatic said:

TxTarpon said:

I am still trying to grasp that a meskin guy with Nazi ink and parents that don't speak English is classified as a right winger.
I think it's because he was a self ascribed "Right Wing Death Squad" member
Yep
Like being with ISIS.
You can be with ISIS if you just say you are with ISIS.

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[url=https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/view-host-says-being-black-or-hispanic-does-not-make-you-immune-from-being-a-white-supremacist/ar-AA1aX6FP?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=ba231191a3434ce6973de3341a26c835&ei=39#comments][/url]
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'View' host says being black or hispanic 'does not make you immune' from being a white supremacist

While discussing the recent Dallas mall shooting, Ana Navarro told her "View" co-hosts that being Hispanic or Black doesn't make a person "immune" from supporting White supremacy.
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The shooting left eight dead along with several others injured from the attack.REUTERS

"We all have to remember that the head of the Proud Boys. His name is Enrique Tarrio. The Proud Boys is a White Nationalist group. Look, being Hispanic or being Black does not, or being anything does not make you immune from being racist, from being radicalized, from being a White supremacist, from being evil, from being homicidal. And we are seeing it over and over again. There are people who, they don't see themselves as what they are," Navarro said.
She mucho estupido.
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TxTarpon said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

TxTarpon said:

I am still trying to grasp that a meskin guy with Nazi ink and parents that don't speak English is classified as a right winger.
I think it's because he was a self ascribed "Right Wing Death Squad" member
Yep
Like being with ISIS.
You can be with ISIS if you just say you are with ISIS.
You realize the far right DOES have extremists right? Like, it's ok to be a republican and denounce right wing extremists just like I would with left wing extremists. Unlike some here, I don't attribute the shooters actions to every Republican but that doesn't mean he wasn't 'right wing.'
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TxTarpon said:

[url=https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/view-host-says-being-black-or-hispanic-does-not-make-you-immune-from-being-a-white-supremacist/ar-AA1aX6FP?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=ba231191a3434ce6973de3341a26c835&ei=39#comments][/url]
Quote:

'View' host says being black or hispanic 'does not make you immune' from being a white supremacist

While discussing the recent Dallas mall shooting, Ana Navarro told her "View" co-hosts that being Hispanic or Black doesn't make a person "immune" from supporting White supremacy.
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The shooting left eight dead along with several others injured from the attack.REUTERS

"We all have to remember that the head of the Proud Boys. His name is Enrique Tarrio. The Proud Boys is a White Nationalist group. Look, being Hispanic or being Black does not, or being anything does not make you immune from being racist, from being radicalized, from being a White supremacist, from being evil, from being homicidal. And we are seeing it over and over again. There are people who, they don't see themselves as what they are," Navarro said.
She mucho estupido.
Yep.

"White supremacist" is just a term for anyone who doesn't comply with their view of how things should be.

F*** 'em and feed 'em fishheads.
deddog
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Fact
Democrats don't want teachers armed.
Because they would rather kids get shot so they can use the dead children to push confiscation

That was half of Betos campaign.
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Slicer97 said:

CDUB98 said:

My largest concern is students ambushing a teacher and taking the weapon.

This looks like a case where biometric verification would be a good thing, but I don't know how reliable it is.
The way our school district is doing it, those who carry must carry concealed, and only 3 administrators know who is carrying. I believe there is additional training required above and beyond the LTC.
Our school does something similar. There are also prominent signs at the entrances with a warning that says something like staff members are armed and will respond to deadly threats with deadly force.
deddog
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Hullabaloonatic said:

TxTarpon said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

TxTarpon said:

I am still trying to grasp that a meskin guy with Nazi ink and parents that don't speak English is classified as a right winger.
I think it's because he was a self ascribed "Right Wing Death Squad" member
Yep
Like being with ISIS.
You can be with ISIS if you just say you are with ISIS.
You realize the far right DOES have extremists right? Like, it's ok to be a republican and denounce right wing extremists just like I would with left wing extremists. Unlike some here, I don't attribute the shooters actions to every Republican but that doesn't mean he wasn't 'right wing.'
So far right hispanic white supremacist shot a bunch of white people in a red district.
Makes sense.
Slicer97
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That's how it should be for every school in every district in every state.
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Slicer97 said:

BlueSmoke said:

Exactly - this was never about "arming teachers". It has always been about allowing teachers that take the time to earn their CDL and voluntarily carry of their own volition.

Why would teachers want a commercial driver's license?


To drive the field trip bus.
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Slicer97 said:

BlueSmoke said:

Exactly - this was never about "arming teachers". It has always been about allowing teachers that take the time to earn their CDL and voluntarily carry of their own volition.

Why would teachers want a commercial driver's license?


So they can drive a bus full of guns and ammo to school everyday.
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HumpitPuryear said:

Slicer97 said:

CDUB98 said:

My largest concern is students ambushing a teacher and taking the weapon.

This looks like a case where biometric verification would be a good thing, but I don't know how reliable it is.
The way our school district is doing it, those who carry must carry concealed, and only 3 administrators know who is carrying. I believe there is additional training required above and beyond the LTC.
Our school does something similar. There are also prominent signs at the entrances with a warning that says something like staff members are armed and will respond to deadly threats with deadly force.


Curious how this works in practice. Do they have it keep it on their person at all times while on campus? I would guess so unless they have a safe hidden somewhere. If so, I would suspect it would be difficult to keep that under wraps for a full school year. No idea what kind of rig they would choose but it seems unlikely you could be in front of 30 kids every day for weeks on end and no one would ever figure it out.

Now, I still think this is better than the alternative, but I'm guessing people figure out who's carrying.
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Yes, of all the things to worry about, teachers shooting kids should be…pretty far down the list.

Of course, on the other hand, having seen some of the 'libsoftiktok' glbtq+furry etc. 'educators' ranting on and on over the past few years I would be more concerned if I were so inclined to put a child in a classroom with one of those mentally deranged/ill types of creatures.
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CDUB98 said:

My largest concern is students ambushing a teacher and taking the weapon.

This looks like a case where biometric verification would be a good thing, but I don't know how reliable it is.
While I get the response it really is extremely unlikely to ever happen. Certainly you should have regs around how a weapon is concealed and secured. Moreso though, why would a group of kids do that? Death wish? I mean it's not some crazy feat for a kid to sneak a gun into a school as it is so why would you get a group together devising a plan to steal a secured weapon from a teacher that has been trained to use the weapon? You would need a lot of kids in on the plan to because as soon as they did other kids would jump in most likely.

If they do get the weapon they can shoot a few but then what? Wait for another teacher to shoot them? The kid is going down so if they are crazy enough to do this they are going to die anyway and are psycho, how they get the gun is less of an issue because if they are willing to die they can get a gun.

Now if the argument is teachers should just walk around with a weapon exposed or sitting in their desk without any security then of course that's a problem but I don't think anyone is suggesting that.

Anyone that is going to shoot up a school is doing it in part because they want to feel powerful over people that can't defend themselves, they are by definition cowards. The main reason you want teachers that are willing to be trained and responsible to be armed is it takes that away. The kid doesn't know who is armed and who isn't. They know they are going to be taking on a hostile situation. That isn't as appealing to them.

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Slicer97 said:

BlueSmoke said:

Exactly - this was never about "arming teachers". It has always been about allowing teachers that take the time to earn their CDL and voluntarily carry of their own volition.

Why would teachers want a commercial driver's license?
They're probably coaches.
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hunterntexas said:

If you shoot up a school, mall, etc., you are automatically a radical right-wing white guy with a fully automatic AR regardless of actual facts.
What does this have to do with teachers?
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Do teachers actually get stressed?
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I'd recommend that teachers have it locked away and not on their person. Sure, they might not be as safe as they would be if it was on their person but they'd be safe enough.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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