It was enough of a defense for the DA not to seek charges. She presented herself as someone that was 18. Her fraudulent representation of her age is absolutely a factorHungry Ojos said:Irish 2.0 said:They had her on video lying about her age. She was telling people she was 18.Hungry Ojos said:
He admitted to having sex with her though and I believe the age of consent in California is 18.
Is that a defense to criminal prosecution though? I don't believe it is in Texas, but hopefully a criminal law attorney can post.
Punt God cleared of wrongdoing in accused gang rape
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Irish 2.0 said:It was enough of a defense for the DA not to seek charges. She presented herself as someone that was 18. Her fraudulent representation of her age is absolutely a factorHungry Ojos said:Irish 2.0 said:They had her on video lying about her age. She was telling people she was 18.Hungry Ojos said:
He admitted to having sex with her though and I believe the age of consent in California is 18.
Is that a defense to criminal prosecution though? I don't believe it is in Texas, but hopefully a criminal law attorney can post.
From the article:
The Bills are also responsible here. They knew about the allegations and caved to the crowd. If they had any integrity and bravery they would have called it like it is - an allegation that the player denies. Screw Brandon Beane.Quote:
The Bills said they also knew about the incident, investigated it and decided to employ Araiza anyway.
The graphic allegations in the civil lawsuit, however, created a public frenzy. It included a claim that during an Oct. 15, 2021, party at a home near the SDSU campus, Araiza led the girl into a bedroom where "at least three other men" waited.
"Once inside, Araiza threw [the girl] onto the bed face first," the lawsuit read. "[The girl] went in and in and out of consciousness while" suffering through "the horrific gang rape." It lasted an hour and a half, the lawsuit read, before she "stumbled out of the room bloody and crying" in part because "multiple piercings had ripped through the skin during the attack."
Within days the Bills cut Araiza, who due to his record breaking NCAA career and an 82-yard punt in a preseason game, had earned the nickname "Punt God." "We just think it's the best move for everyone to move on from Matt and let him take care of this situation," Buffalo general manager Brandon Beane said.
The story had been around for a while before the Bills cut him. They caved to public outcry even though they believed his story about the incident. Mob justice wins again. But if the dude was a QB, then he would have kept getting paid while on leave like Deshaun Watson was for the massage mess
If you do all three at once you're gonna have a fun time.PA24 said:
…sex outside the marriage
…alcohol
…pot
You may do as you please but if you abstain from those three things, you will most certainly have a blessed life.
That's a risk. You know it going in.Funky Winkerbean said:valvemonkey91 said:
There needs to be SERIOUS punitive punishment on women who ruin the lives of men in this way and also including false allegations of sexual harassment in workplace and everywhere else. 50yrs in prison is too lenient for ****s like that.
How about women that destroy their marriage and then get half the assets?
This ****, on the other hand....
LOL OLD
Ag with kids said:If you do all three at once you're gonna have a fun time.PA24 said:
…sex outside the marriage
…alcohol
…pot
You may do as you please but if you abstain from those three things, you will most certainly have a blessed life.
I think that post was intended to mean wine, coke and threesomes with the wife are the way to go.
Slicer97 said:
The accuser needs some time in prison for making a false criminal accusation and should have to repay him the contract money he lost.
And her greedy ass shyster lawyer ought to pay too.
Hungry Ojos said:Irish 2.0 said:They had her on video lying about her age. She was telling people she was 18.Hungry Ojos said:
He admitted to having sex with her though and I believe the age of consent in California is 18.
Is that a defense to criminal prosecution though? I don't believe it is in Texas, but hopefully a criminal law attorney can post.
Yeah, with statutory rape the idea is the minor is too young to consent, and the burden is on the adult to make sure they're not sleeping with a minor.
Usually the "I thought she was old enough" defense wouldn't fly, but I guess the circumstances of this one let him escape prosecution. He still slept with a minor at a party, and it turned into national news.
I don't see the Bills having to pay for it apart from a wasted draft pick.
Went into the backyard and saw him taking a piss. Romantic encounter ensues-- just like the movies.BassCowboy33 said:Hungry Ojos said:
I thought he admitted to sleeping with her. Is that not right?
Don't think there was much sleeping involved. Sounds like they had a quickie outside before she went back inside to brag to her friends about it.
Even if he's a punter - if there was an allegation about rape, they were going to do some research. They must have felt the true story would come out or would die out in their favor. They get embarrassed now that they let him go.BassCowboy33 said:Irish 2.0 said:But the Bills admitted they knew about the accusations prior to the draft. So obviously they thought it was a nothing burger at some pointBassCowboy33 said:evestor1 said:
I am not understanding how the Bills and the accuser won't be on the hook here.
Bills can do whatever they want, but seems logical that they are not allowed to fire someone on a false rumor.
With that logic, wouldn't you have to prove that the Bills KNEW the allegations were false and fired him anyway?
Devil's advocate: how often do we hear about teams "doing the research" beforehand, only to find out they did practically nothing?
As I would tell my son currently in college - if a girl you don't know walks up to you as you are pissing in the backyard and offers herself to you - there is risk.Science Denier said:That's a risk. You know it going in.Funky Winkerbean said:valvemonkey91 said:
There needs to be SERIOUS punitive punishment on women who ruin the lives of men in this way and also including false allegations of sexual harassment in workplace and everywhere else. 50yrs in prison is too lenient for ****s like that.
How about women that destroy their marriage and then get half the assets?
This ****, on the other hand....
dude95 said:As I would tell my son currently in college - if a girl you don't know walks up to you as you are pissing in the backyard and offers herself to you - there is risk.Science Denier said:That's a risk. You know it going in.Funky Winkerbean said:valvemonkey91 said:
There needs to be SERIOUS punitive punishment on women who ruin the lives of men in this way and also including false allegations of sexual harassment in workplace and everywhere else. 50yrs in prison is too lenient for ****s like that.
How about women that destroy their marriage and then get half the assets?
This ****, on the other hand....
Fair enough. But the risks are substantially different. Let just say I was way more picky about the girl I married than I girl I may happen to hook up with in the backyard of a party. Hypothetically of course.
Well, they were different back when I went to college.
LOL OLD
Dill-Ag13 said:
What if we assumed people were innocent until proven guilty? Would that work?
There are people that believe some crimes/acts/accusations are so serious, even being innocent of them is no defense.
Slicer97 said:
The accuser needs some time in prison for making a false criminal accusation and should have to repay him the contract money he lost.
Not a fan of that either. It provides a massive disincentive to report rape/SA to the police.
We should just do the whole innocent until proven guilty thing. I know that's extremely unpopular nowadays
Except that an innocent dude faced serious repercussions for something he didn't do. That woman absolutely needs to spend some time in prison. She should also have to pay his lost salary.Muktheduck said:Slicer97 said:
The accuser needs some time in prison for making a false criminal accusation and should have to repay him the contract money he lost.
Not a fan of that either. It provides a massive disincentive to report rape/SA to the police.
We should just do the whole innocent until proven guilty thing. I know that's extremely unpopular nowadays
If this was in the testimony, holy crap!
“My philopsophy is this: Its none of my business what people say of me or think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier." ~ Sir Anthony Hopkins
Muktheduck said:Slicer97 said:
The accuser needs some time in prison for making a false criminal accusation and should have to repay him the contract money he lost.
Not a fan of that either. It provides a massive disincentive to report rape/SA to the police.
We should just do the whole innocent until proven guilty thing. I know that's extremely unpopular nowadays
She's a victim too if she indeed was raped, but it doesn't make it OK to falsely accuse someone else and ruin their life. There has to be some kind of consequences.
“My philopsophy is this: Its none of my business what people say of me or think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier." ~ Sir Anthony Hopkins
Muktheduck said:Slicer97 said:
The accuser needs some time in prison for making a false criminal accusation and should have to repay him the contract money he lost.
Not a fan of that either. It provides a massive disincentive to report rape/SA to the police.
We should just do the whole innocent until proven guilty thing. I know that's extremely unpopular nowadays
There has to be consequences for knowingly making a false claim. Otherwise, there's no reason not to take the shot, which is exactly what she did. Even if innocent until proven guilty, the mere accusation is enough to permanently taint a reputation and there is a cost in time, money, and emotional distress involved in fighting such an accusation.
Article makes it sound like it might have even been mutual group sex rather than rape. Sounds like she had specific intentions. Why in the world you would turn that into rape accusations is crazy (if the article is to be believed).annie88 said:Muktheduck said:Slicer97 said:
The accuser needs some time in prison for making a false criminal accusation and should have to repay him the contract money he lost.
Not a fan of that either. It provides a massive disincentive to report rape/SA to the police.
We should just do the whole innocent until proven guilty thing. I know that's extremely unpopular nowadays
She's a victim too if she indeed was raped, but it doesn't make it OK to falsely accuse someone else and ruin their life. There has to be some kind of consequences.
Still - I believe there is some advice about sticking your pee pee in loco????
Because she got caught being a ****ty hoar...and screaming "RAPE" clears them of that behavior and next they're a victim. Not just a ****ty hoar...dude95 said:Article makes it sound like it might have even been mutual group sex rather than rape. Sounds like she had specific intentions. Why in the world you would turn that into rape accusations is crazy (if the article is to be believed).annie88 said:Muktheduck said:Slicer97 said:
The accuser needs some time in prison for making a false criminal accusation and should have to repay him the contract money he lost.
Not a fan of that either. It provides a massive disincentive to report rape/SA to the police.
We should just do the whole innocent until proven guilty thing. I know that's extremely unpopular nowadays
She's a victim too if she indeed was raped, but it doesn't make it OK to falsely accuse someone else and ruin their life. There has to be some kind of consequences.
Still - I believe there is some advice about sticking your pee pee in loco????
valvemonkey91 said:
There needs to be SERIOUS punitive punishment on women who ruin the lives of men in this way and also including false allegations of sexual harassment in workplace and everywhere else. 50yrs in prison is too lenient for ****s like that.
Agreed. I hope he gets a second chance.
This. Right. Here.D-Fens said:
If the punters name was Tyrone or Muhammad this would be national news. He would have the Bill's on their knees offering him record contract and a go-fund me flush with millions.
I wouldn't call it "romantic"...dude95 said:Went into the backyard and saw him taking a piss. Romantic encounter ensues-- just like the movies.BassCowboy33 said:Hungry Ojos said:
I thought he admitted to sleeping with her. Is that not right?
Don't think there was much sleeping involved. Sounds like they had a quickie outside before she went back inside to brag to her friends about it.
And that's what the LEGAL system did...Muktheduck said:Slicer97 said:
The accuser needs some time in prison for making a false criminal accusation and should have to repay him the contract money he lost.
Not a fan of that either. It provides a massive disincentive to report rape/SA to the police.
We should just do the whole innocent until proven guilty thing. I know that's extremely unpopular nowadays
HowEVER...that's not how it works in the real world...
Get out of here with your logic.Dill-Ag13 said:
What if we assumed people were innocent until proven guilty? Would that work?
Plus Republicans and conservatives aren't allowed to be innocent, Ever.
However, if you are a liberal or a Democrat, you're never guilty.
“My philopsophy is this: Its none of my business what people say of me or think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier." ~ Sir Anthony Hopkins
dttd888 said:This. Right. Here.D-Fens said:
If the punters name was Tyrone or Muhammad this would be national news. He would have the Bill's on their knees offering him record contract and a go-fund me flush with millions.
To be fair, it's all over the national news today.
More about the Chiefs signing punter Matt Araiza with their veteran All-Pro punter Tommy Townsend scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent next month, via @adamteicher:https://t.co/LLuDWz4EbG
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 22, 2024
You think that a Mexican is not likely to receive the same deference from the Left as a Black or a Muslim?D-Fens said:
If the punters name was Tyrone or Muhammad this would be national news. He would have the Bill's on their knees offering him record contract and a go-fund me flush with millions.
AND he signed an NFL contract with the KC ChiefsBassCowboy33 said:To be fair, it's all over the national news today.dttd888 said:This. Right. Here.D-Fens said:
If the punters name was Tyrone or Muhammad this would be national news. He would have the Bill's on their knees offering him record contract and a go-fund me flush with millions.
Antoninus said:You think that a Mexican is not likely to receive the same deference from the Left as a Black or a Muslim?D-Fens said:
If the punters name was Tyrone or Muhammad this would be national news. He would have the Bill's on their knees offering him record contract and a go-fund me flush with millions.
Is he illegal? Then yes.
Otherwise, he's clearly a white hispanic.
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