I would accept the OP's constitutional amendment IF it was also required to vote

nortex97 said:

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Repeal the NFA. It's obviously failed.

That's my compromise offer.

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The NFA allows people to buy fully automatic weapons of war with a $200 stamp. That's less than a Starbucks per week.

Repeal the NFA!

JohnLA762 said:

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So you want us to be China?

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I was thinking more Switzerland, South Korea, etc.

OP knows nothing about the military. He thinks they get gun training all the time.

JohnLA762 said:

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So you want us to be China?

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Might as well get it over with. It's happening anyway.

JohnLA762 said:

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Why do you keep posting about automatic weapons? There are so few, they are heavily regulated, and are not responsible for many (if any) mass shootings today?

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In the black urban community, modified Glocks w/ switches converting to full auto are pretty prevalent now. Probably contributes to the awful marksmanship and innocent casualties in these gangland style shootouts we see today.

Alost every rap song talks about them, and on social media you see tons of videos of "youths" flaunting Glocks with switch, high capacity mags and green beams...and nothing ever happens to them, even thought hey are committing serious felonies.

Do the Russians still send their youth to summer military camp?

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OP knows nothing about the military. He thinks they get gun training all the time.

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You would agree that they get much more training than your average citizen, correct?

If more people were required to handle and use guns, there would be a lot less fear around guns in the first place.

How about we do the easiest part first? Let's have the Democrats stop preaching hate and division.

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GeorgiAg said:

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We have decided that a few dead people everyday is worth it so we can have guns. And even if you banned guns tomorrow, it would take years to implement.

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That pales in comparison to the tens of millions of unarmed humans killed by their own governments.

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A lot of people die from cars. We accept that as a necessary part of our society.

The only thing that would "work" would be a total ban on all guns after a decade of strict enforcement. Many murders occur with handguns and regular rifles and shotguns. We are never going to put up with a total ban or door to door enforcement.

Guns are woven into the fabric of our society. We need to focus on mental illness.

Nah

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Why do you keep posting about automatic weapons? There are so few, they are heavily regulated, and are not responsible for many (if any) mass shootings today?

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Because if you aren't a gun guy, you may not know the difference between semi-automatic and automatic. But feel free to keep condescending if it makes you feel better.

Read the Consitution.

Why would anyone compromise on an absolute right?

Blue star to OP for not fearing the responses to his idea for solving a problem that our politicians won't address.

Don't like the idea, but I can appreciate the effort.

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Pinche Guero said:

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Shall not be infringed, you can't give the left an inch

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Even for the mentally ill?

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Its already illegal for the mentally ill to purchase a gun. Laws on gun control only affect people that follow the law.

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Yes, both sides will hate it. Which is why it's a perfect compromise.

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Well played.

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Why do you keep posting about automatic weapons? There are so few, they are heavily regulated, and are not responsible for many (if any) mass shootings today?

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Because if you aren't a gun guy, you may not know the difference between semi-automatic and automatic. But feel free to keep condescending if it makes you feel better.

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I do know the difference, the guy just didn't understand my reasoning. I'm well aware that almost zero shootings are happening with automatic weapons. The point is that in countries where most of the citizenry are licensed and trained to use automatic weapons, crime rates are extremely low.

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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SteveA said:

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Why do you keep posting about automatic weapons? There are so few, they are heavily regulated, and are not responsible for many (if any) mass shootings today?

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Because if you aren't a gun guy, you may not know the difference between semi-automatic and automatic. But feel free to keep condescending if it makes you feel better.

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I do know the difference, the guy just didn't understand my reasoning. I'm well aware that almost zero shootings are happening with automatic weapons. The point is that in countries where most of the citizenry are licensed and trained to use automatic weapons, crime rates are extremely low.

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Correlation, not causation?

Pinche Guero said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Pinche Guero said:

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Shall not be infringed, you can't give the left an inch

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Even for the mentally ill?

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Its already illegal for the mentally ill to purchase a gun. Laws on gun control only affect people that follow the law.

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Wait, you said "shall not be infringed". That seems to be an all-or-nothing statement on the part of the Constitution.

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Why do you keep posting about automatic weapons? There are so few, they are heavily regulated, and are not responsible for many (if any) mass shootings today?

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Because if you aren't a gun guy, you may not know the difference between semi-automatic and automatic. But feel free to keep condescending if it makes you feel better.

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Or people could educate themselves a little before trying to remove our rights.

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A compromise for gun control.

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the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

GeorgiAg said:

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We have decided that a few dead people everyday is worth it so we can have guns. And even if you banned guns tomorrow, it would take years to implement.

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The federal government banned illegal drugs, and is supposed to be protecting our borders.
How is that going for us?
What leads you to believe they can effectively enforce gun control laws? Heck, half of the country (and half of Congress) do not want to enforce immigration laws.

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Yes, both sides will hate it. Which is why it's a perfect compromise.

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Or people could educate themselves a little before trying to remove our rights.

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That is understandable. But conversation instead of condescension may go a long way. Especially on an all AG board.

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Why do you keep posting about automatic weapons? There are so few, they are heavily regulated, and are not responsible for many (if any) mass shootings today?

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Because if you aren't a gun guy, you may not know the difference between semi-automatic and automatic. But feel free to keep condescending if it makes you feel better.

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I do know the difference, the guy just didn't understand my reasoning. I'm well aware that almost zero shootings are happening with automatic weapons. The point is that in countries where most of the citizenry are licensed and trained to use automatic weapons, crime rates are extremely low.

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Those are also highly homogenous societies which aren't afraid of "stigmas".

Also, many are shame/honor cultures.

We are none of these.

Here's my compromise to OP's suggestion.

No.

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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I think a great compromise would be requiring 18 months of military service out of HS. Everyone goes through the military evaluation, everyone gets trained in firearms. You still have the only people who are actually going to the frontlines as grunts are the people who were already signing up to do that. Every other kid is put into non-combat roles. They learn discipline, leadership qualities and trade skills like logistics, accounting, etc.

Then everyone who passes the mental eval gets out with a license to operate firearms all the way up to automatic weapons.

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Just how in the polecat hell are we going to pay for this? Where do you plan to house them all? And pay for constructing the housing? Transporting them? Feeding them? Medical costs? Training costs?

It would change nothing. People would still be mentally ill and if they go off the deep end after the mental evaluation, it wouldn't be known about. People would still want to steal. People would still get into conflicts and shoot others. Drugs and gangs and the violence associated with them would still exist.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Read the Consitution.

Why would anyone compromise on an absolute right?

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They already are. It happens once every 3 years or so.

This way, you drop the fear of guns in society, you get most trained in using them, you teach trade skills to people who have stopped learning them since public school has gone down the drain, and you have criminals aware that pretty much anyone they are robbing could potentially have an m16 hidden somewhere.

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Or people could educate themselves a little before trying to remove our rights.

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That is understandable. But conversation instead of condescension may go a long way. Especially on an all AG board.

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I literally wanted to know why the OP was so focused on a classification of gun that already has been heavily regulated.

The only "condescension" I see is in your post. It's either that, or blatant ignorance…

Just ban democrats from owning guns. Gun violence would almost disappear overnight.

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JohnLA762 said:

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Why do you keep posting about automatic weapons? There are so few, they are heavily regulated, and are not responsible for many (if any) mass shootings today?

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I never said they were. I'm just saying that you would have the entire law-abiding populace trained to operate automatic weapons.

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Then also please repeal NFA and allow automatic weapons to be available to those that want them.
Compromise right?

The leftists can compromise with themselves on their own acceptance of degenerate behavior... inanimate objects are completely off the table for me.

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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JohnLA762 said:

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Why do you keep posting about automatic weapons? There are so few, they are heavily regulated, and are not responsible for many (if any) mass shootings today?

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I never said they were. I'm just saying that you would have the entire law-abiding populace trained to operate automatic weapons.

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Then also please repeal NFA and allow automatic weapons to be available to those that want them.
Compromise right?

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I completely agree.