A compromise for gun control.

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Definitely Not A Cop
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I think a great compromise would be requiring 18 months of military service out of HS. Everyone goes through the military evaluation, everyone gets trained in firearms. You still have the only people who are actually going to the frontlines as grunts are the people who were already signing up to do that. Every other kid is put into non-combat roles. They learn discipline, leadership qualities and trade skills like logistics, accounting, etc.

Then everyone who passes the mental eval gets out with a license to operate firearms all the way up to automatic weapons.
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Other than being unconstitutional, it's stupid.


Keep trying.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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This thread isn't going to go like you think it should.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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Yes, both sides will hate it. Which is why it's a perfect compromise.
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This is a terrible idea. Terrible.
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Wasn't the Allen shooter discharged from the military?
JohnLA762
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Why do you keep posting about automatic weapons? There are so few, they are heavily regulated, and are not responsible for many (if any) mass shootings today?
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JohnLA762 said:

Why do you keep posting about automatic weapons? There are so few, they are heavily regulated, and are not responsible for many (if any) mass shootings today?
Except for Las Vegas (unofficially)
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GeorgiAg
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We have decided that a few dead people everyday is worth it so we can have guns. And even if you banned guns tomorrow, it would take years to implement.
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no
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willtackleforfood said:

Wasn't the Allen shooter discharged from the military?
For mental health problems.
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Shall not be infringed, you can't give the left an inch
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JohnLA762 said:

Why do you keep posting about automatic weapons? There are so few, they are heavily regulated, and are not responsible for many (if any) mass shootings today?


I never said they were. I'm just saying that you would have the entire law-abiding populace trained to operate automatic weapons.
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lol no.
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SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

Hth
halfastros81
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I'm not saying the OP's idea is a bad one for multiple reasons BUT ever since Vietnam the one thing both parties seem to actually agree on is an all volunteer military , no conscription. Don't see it happening .
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My father used to walk to school with his 22 and leave it in his school locker.

What's changed?
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AggiePetro07 said:

Other than being unconstitutional, it's stupid.


Keep trying.


So are most other gun control solutions, that hasn't stopped the people from passing these solutions. And those solutions aren't actually addressing the problems.

This would.
nortex97
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Repeal the NFA. It's obviously failed.

That's my compromise offer.
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The second ammendment is fine just the way it is. Shall not be infringed is perfectly clear. No need to compromise or come up with another plan.

If authorities would enforce the laws that are on the books, a lot of these shootings would never happen.
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GeorgiAg said:

We have decided that a few dead people everyday is worth it so we can have guns. And even if you banned guns tomorrow, it would take years to implement.
That pales in comparison to the tens of millions of unarmed humans killed by their own governments.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

JohnLA762 said:

Why do you keep posting about automatic weapons? There are so few, they are heavily regulated, and are not responsible for many (if any) mass shootings today?


I never said they were. I'm just saying that you would have the entire law-abiding populace trained to operate automatic weapons.


Only about 7% of the US populace has served in the military in some capacity. I don't understand what your "compromise" is trying to achieve…
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Your father doesn't walk to school anymore?

Sorry, Just clowning
AgNav93
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There is no compromising with the left. They are bad faith negotiators. They'll take an inch today and a mile tomorrow. You can't give them that first inch.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

I think a great compromise would be requiring 18 months of military service out of HS. Everyone goes through the military evaluation, everyone gets trained in firearms. You still have the only people who are actually going to the frontlines as grunts are the people who were already signing up to do that. Every other kid is put into non-combat roles. They learn discipline, leadership qualities and trade skills like logistics, accounting, etc.

Then everyone who passes the mental eval gets out with a license to operate firearms all the way up to automatic weapons.
No.

I was medically disqualified from entering service due to childhood asthma.

Are you suggesting that I should not be able to own a gun to defend myself against either criminals OR a tyrannical government?

The Allen shooter was a military veteran btw.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

JohnLA762 said:

Why do you keep posting about automatic weapons? There are so few, they are heavily regulated, and are not responsible for many (if any) mass shootings today?


I never said they were. I'm just saying that you would have the entire law-abiding populace trained to operate automatic weapons.

"Law abiding populace"
There's what you fail to understand. It's already against the law to kill innocent people. Yet the "populace" chooses to do that occasionally.
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JohnLA762 said:

Definitely Not A Cop said:

JohnLA762 said:

Why do you keep posting about automatic weapons? There are so few, they are heavily regulated, and are not responsible for many (if any) mass shootings today?


I never said they were. I'm just saying that you would have the entire law-abiding populace trained to operate automatic weapons.


Only about 7% of the US populace has served in the military in some capacity. I don't understand what your "compromise" is trying to achieve…


You train the entire populace in how to handle weapons. You also teach them discipline, leadership skills, and a trade skill from their MOS. You are able to screen the entire populace for mental health issues, and address them early on. Everyone can leave the military with valuable skills learned, and training allowing them to buy up to an automatic weapon if they choose. The criminals of society now know this as well.
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nortex97 said:

Repeal the NFA. It's obviously failed.

That's my compromise offer.

I second the motion.
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Pinche Guero said:

Shall not be infringed, you can't give the left an inch
Even for the mentally ill?
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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Hell no i am not going through some woke liberal government run conditioning program before I am allowed to purchase a firearm to defend myself or my family.
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TheEternalPessimist said:

Definitely Not A Cop said:

I think a great compromise would be requiring 18 months of military service out of HS. Everyone goes through the military evaluation, everyone gets trained in firearms. You still have the only people who are actually going to the frontlines as grunts are the people who were already signing up to do that. Every other kid is put into non-combat roles. They learn discipline, leadership qualities and trade skills like logistics, accounting, etc.

Then everyone who passes the mental eval gets out with a license to operate firearms all the way up to automatic weapons.
No.

I was medically disqualified from entering service due to childhood asthma.

Are you suggesting that I should not be able to own a gun to defend myself against either criminals OR a tyrannical government?

The Allen shooter was a military veteran btw.


That's not what I said. If you have a medical disability preventing you from serving on the front lines, that doesn't mean that they wouldn't still train you in a role that you could serve for them, it would just be in a logistic or business admin role versus combat role. You still receive the same training and discipline, allowing for your disability.

The Allen shooter was discharged from the military for mental health reasons. Per our existing laws, he should not have been able to have the guns he did, unless he has gone through some sort of appeals process we are not aware about so far.
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GeorgiAg said:

We have decided that a few dead people everyday is worth it so we can have guns. And even if you banned guns tomorrow, it would take years to implement.
So you're going to ban cars now?
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JohnLA762
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So you want us to be China?
Athanasius
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I am attracted to the idea of mandatory military service. There are many good reasons to be.

One of the many problems with it, though, is... it's controlled by the government.
 
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