Will our resident gun control crowd please explain what gun laws would have stopped the more recent mass shootings?



EDIT FROM THE OP: Please be respectful and hear out what potential "solutions" are proposed without going into name calling and attack mode. That's gets threads killed and users banned.

It's all social medias fault. Ban that!

Sitting in a LTC class as we speak. Always carry. And always have an exit strategy to any place you enter that lets you leave it holstered if possible.

There was a no-gun zone sign at the mall…I mean, it's almost as if someone who wants to commit a crime doesn't care about laws.

halfastros81 said:

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I find it interesting that there's nothing out there about the ID of the Allen Shooter. At least not that I have seen and I have been looking.

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It's because... well, you know.

Because that only matters if they are a white male….if they are conservative then it really matters….

See Brownsville. Common sense gun control will need to include deadly mass killing cars.

B-1 83 said:

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Will our resident gun control crowd please explain what gun laws would have stopped the more recent mass shootings?

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He must not have seen the sign outlawing weapons at the mall. We need more signage available in all languages. This will solve the problem at hand.

Liberals are wrong on the gun issue.

Conservatives are ALSO wrong on the gun issue.

Guns are not a problem. But people with guns are also not a real problem. Even bad guys with guns are barely a problem.

You're not going to die in a mass shooting. Your kid isn't going to die in a mass shooting as school. You're not ever going to be shot at. Knock on wood if you want, but the probabilities are extremely low. So low that other things of such low probabilities you don't even think about much less prepare for. You can live your ENTIRE life in America without even seeing a gun outside of it being attached to a cop's hip.

Guns are an irrelevancy in America. Outside some niche areas and situations. Stop trying to fix problems that don't exist. Its not the guns, its not the mental health, its not the godlessness, its NOTHING.

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Will our resident gun control crowd please explain what gun laws would have stopped the more recent mass shootings?

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A ban on semi auto rifles and large capacity magazines would be a start. I'm not a gun control guy, but this happened about 4 miles from my house, and my kids were up there at the mall, so I'm a bit biased at the moment. This assault would be much more difficult for a guy armed with a 9mm handgun. The AR style weapons, or any semi auto with a pistol grip makes it too easy. Now, how do you get those out of the hands of people that do this stuff? I have no idea. Not a politician and don't claim to have answers. Obviously laws don't matter or they wouldn't be shooting up malls. But I don't think more guns is the answer. I don't think there is a need for these types of guns to be as available as they are. My opinion. Keeping it civil.

Normalizing degeneracy is a failed experiment.

SteveA said:

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Will our resident gun control crowd please explain what gun laws would have stopped the more recent mass shootings?

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A ban on semi auto rifles and large capacity magazines would be a start. I'm not a gun control guy, but this happened about 4 miles from my house, and my kids were up there at the mall, so I'm a bit biased at the moment. This assault would be much more difficult for a guy armed with a 9mm handgun. The AR style weapons, or any semi auto with a pistol grip makes it too easy. Now, how do you get those out of the hands of people that do this stuff? I have no idea. Not a politician and don't claim to have answers. Obviously laws don't matter or they wouldn't be shooting up malls. But I don't think more guns is the answer. I don't think there is a need for these types of guns to be as available as they are. My opinion. Keeping it civil.

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That's why pistols are almost never used.




Oh....wait, they're the #1 weapon of choice in crimes. Nevermind.


Glad your kids are safe, but don't let emotions cloud your judgement.

We should not take guns from law abiding citizens, and we will never keep bad guys from getting guns, but we can do better at keeping the mentally unstable for buying and having guns….

SteveA said:

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Will our resident gun control crowd please explain what gun laws would have stopped the more recent mass shootings?

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A ban on semi auto rifles and large capacity magazines would be a start. I'm not a gun control guy, but this happened about 4 miles from my house, and my kids were up there at the mall, so I'm a bit biased at the moment. This assault would be much more difficult for a guy armed with a 9mm handgun. The AR style weapons, or any semi auto with a pistol grip makes it too easy. Now, how do you get those out of the hands of people that do this stuff? I have no idea. Not a politician and don't claim to have answers. Obviously laws don't matter or they wouldn't be shooting up malls. But I don't think more guns is the answer. I don't think there is a need for these types of guns to be as available as they are. My opinion. Keeping it civil.

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So by your thinking, should any semi auto pistol be banned as well? What about drum mags that can hold as many as 100 rds? I'd be more worried about an idiot with a pistol and several 30 rd mags going inside the mall. It would be much more difficult to see him beforehand, and a lot easier for him to move around with a handgun.

Lesotho said:

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I think all guns should be legal but can someone lose their right to easily obtain one? In basic training we had a kid that was suicidal and told behavioral health he wanted to hurt people. He was banned from the range and was discharged. Does he still get to walk in and buy a semi-automatic rifle in a matter of minutes? I support the 2nd amendment but can we toss in some logic?

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See the Sutherland Springs shootings. Shooter was flagged by the USAF (for family violence, I believe) and the flag was never disseminated down the line. This is certainly an area that needs attention.

I also live within 4-5 miles and realize that there are 500 million guns in the US already. Thinking these laws would protect is just wishful thinking with zero basis in reality. Law abiders will disarm themselves and become fish in a barrel for sick ****s like this guy

Chicago is the wild west in spite of what is essentially and outright ban of all guns

Everyone wants to ban inanimate objects while ignoring the root cause - people. Remove these idiots from society like we did 50 years ago. Stop normalizing **** that ain't right, so as not to be "offensive" to them.

SteveA said:

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Will our resident gun control crowd please explain what gun laws would have stopped the more recent mass shootings?

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A ban on semi auto rifles and large capacity magazines would be a start. I'm not a gun control guy, but this happened about 4 miles from my house, and my kids were up there at the mall, so I'm a bit biased at the moment. This assault would be much more difficult for a guy armed with a 9mm handgun. The AR style weapons, or any semi auto with a pistol grip makes it too easy. Now, how do you get those out of the hands of people that do this stuff? I have no idea. Not a politician and don't claim to have answers. Obviously laws don't matter or they wouldn't be shooting up malls. But I don't think more guns is the answer. I don't think there is a need for these types of guns to be as available as they are. My opinion. Keeping it civil.

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" I'm not a gun control guy."

Yes you are. Every word you wrote after that was about gun control. . Maybe to be fair: you were not a gun control guy but now are. But don't continue to convince yourself you are not a gun control guy. Even threw the big boogeyman pistol grip in.

You lost me at pistol grip.

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A ban on semi auto rifles and large capacity magazines would be a start. I'm not a gun control guy

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Uhh, what? You want to ban a large swath of guns / magazines as A START? Yeah you're aligned with the grabbiest of gun grabbers with this stance.