Constitutional Scholar Marjorie Taylor Greene

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TxAgswin
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Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?
Martin Cash
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TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?

Eh, no different than the liberals crying about 'banning' books being a First Amendment violation when they are merely removed from a library, not banned.
PatriotAg02
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Yeah because Fox News is completely unfiltered and not controlled by the opposition party. GTFOH
PatriotAg02
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Personally I love it because the MSM is dying and nothing will revive it.
BMX Bandit
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PatriotAg02 said:

Yeah because Fox News is completely unfiltered and not controlled by the opposition party. GTFOH


Love parody accounts!
shack009
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TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?



Correct. Everybody uses "the first amendment" wrong, when what they mean is we don't have a strong culture of free speech.

When someone is cancelled in general, that isn't a first amendment issue, but it is an issue with our culture of tolerating (or not tolerating) certain types of speech.
2ndGen87
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Are you ok with Schumer and AOC saying he must be deplatformed?
Paradise Ag
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Sounds perfectly sane in a world where Voter ID laws and limiting illegal immigration are "threats to Democracy".
BMX Bandit
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Does anyone take her seriously?


You and your liberal buddies apparently do, y'all spend lots of time worried about her
Tom Kazansky 2012
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TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?

I think leftists should start taking her seriously as the trend is that there will be more like her in red enclaves.

Who knows if she meant what she said literally, but you being drawn to come here to ***** and moan about what she said says that her platform and approach are working.
magnumtmp
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TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?



Any chance she's referring to the loss of Tucker's voice to millions being bad for the 1st? I doubt she's speaking to protection for his job, Lol. I don't know the context, but the targeted quote and conclusion jumping get annoying. At least put some level of thought before flailing the arms.
TxAgswin
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magnumtmp said:

TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?



Any chance she's referring to the loss of Tucker's voice to millions being bad for the 1st? I doubt she's speaking to protection for his job, Lol. I don't know the context, but the targeted quote and conclusion jumping get annoying. At least put some level of thought before flailing the arms.
I did put some level of thought into it. It doesn't require much. There's no way to be on the other side of this...

The First Amendment reads:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

If it read "Fox News shall make no business decisions that upset conservatives" then it would be a Constitutional issue.

That's not how it reads.
Ellis Wyatt
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TxAgswin said:


I did put some level of thought into it. It doesn't require much. There's no way to be on the other side of this...

The First Amendment reads:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

If it read "Fox News shall make no business decisions that upset conservatives" then it would be a Constitutional issue.

That's not how it reads.
Are you going to admit that Twitter WAS violating people's First Amendment rights until Elon Musk bought it?
TXAggie2011
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Martin Cash said:

TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?
Eh, no different than the liberals crying about 'banning' books being a First Amendment violation when they are merely removed from a library, not banned.
A public library removing books because of their content is categorically different than a private company removing an anchor/show because of their content.
2ndGen87
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If Chuck Schumer and AOC and Mitch McConnell pressure fox to drop a host, that is a real violation of The First Amendment and what it stands for.

If the government is twisting arms and involving itself in corporations like twitter, that is a direct violation of the first amendment.

Why did Tucker get fired from Fox? If it is Fox running scared of the US Government, the MTG is absolutely right, and, as usual, you are dead wrong.
safelightKL
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TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?

It reminds me of all the numbnuts who cry that "school prayer" or posting the 10 commandments somehow violates the First Amendment. Can't they read? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a religion..." When you ask, they rarely even know that each of the original 13 colonies had official religions.
safelightKL
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TXAggie2011 said:

Martin Cash said:

TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?
Eh, no different than the liberals crying about 'banning' books being a First Amendment violation when they are merely removed from a library, not banned.
A public library removing books because of their content is categorically different than a private company removing an anchor/show because of their content.
So the first amendment demands the government buy me any book I want or that is a violation of the first amendment? That in no way prohibits speech. You can write or sell any book you want.
TxAgswin
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safelightKL said:

TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?

It reminds me of all the numbnuts who cry that "school prayer" or posting the 10 commandments somehow violates the First Amendment. Can't they read? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a religion..." When you ask, they rarely even know that each of the original 13 colonies had official religions.
We are talking about a Congresswoman stating that FoxNews firing Tucker Carlson is a threat to the First Amendment.

It doesn't matter what it "reminds" you of.
aggiehawg
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Technically, Tucker has not been fired yet. His show was cancelled but he is still under contract.

BluHorseShu
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TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?

No one takes her or AOC seriously. Every party has one or two nitwits who are only there for sound bytes. Which is ironic because they are the ones who aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.
CDUB98
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MTG is a mental midget.
AGHouston11
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The left has DESTROYED any meaning of the first amendment!

It now means if you don't like what others are saying they should be silenced- or as AOC says deplatformed.
TXAggie2011
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safelightKL said:

TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?

It reminds me of all the numbnuts who cry that "school prayer" or posting the 10 commandments somehow violates the First Amendment. Can't they read? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a religion..." When you ask, they rarely even know that each of the original 13 colonies had official religions.
So, we have this thing called the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court says the current law of the land is that posting the 10 Commandments in a public school violates the First Amendment. If you disagree with that understanding of the 1st Amendment, fine, make the case. But I wouldn't call someone a "numbut" if they told you that's the law. I would call them "correct" or "right."
TXAggie2011
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safelightKL said:

TXAggie2011 said:

Martin Cash said:

TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?
Eh, no different than the liberals crying about 'banning' books being a First Amendment violation when they are merely removed from a library, not banned.
A public library removing books because of their content is categorically different than a private company removing an anchor/show because of their content.
So the first amendment demands the government buys for me any book I want or that is a violation of the first amendment? That in no way prohibits speech. You can write or sell any book you want.
I'm not saying that a library has to buy you whatever you ask them to buy. I'm saying a public entity "cancelling" a book is categorically different than a private entity "cancelling" a show.
TxAgswin
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BluHorseShu said:

TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?

No one takes her or AOC seriously. Every party has one or two nitwits who are only there for sound bytes. Which is ironic because they are the ones who aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.
I agree with this 100%.

There are actually lots of very qualified, smart people in Congress on both sides of the aisle, but they get drowned out by the childlike temper tantrums of irrelevant State Reps that have no business being in Congress.

The Sheila Jackson Lees, Marjorie Taylor Greenes, and AOCs of the world need to let the adults do the governing.

The House has become a reality TV show and it sucks.
geoag58
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Tucker Carlsons departure from Fox is helping this boomer leave broadcast news altogether.
BMX Bandit
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Are you going to admit that Twitter WAS violating people's First Amendment rights until Elon Musk bought it?


You realize Twitter has not stopped this even after Musk, right?
Street Fighter
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TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?



I dont know, you leftists voted for and trust Biden. No one should take your ideological cult seriously either.
MouthBQ98
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Context is possibly not correct. You can argue that he was being framed as a very prominent voice for exposing and criticizing first amendment abuses by government and that having him without his main platform is from that perspective erosive of the vigilance against threats to free speech by government.

It depends on how it was framed.

You can also argue that there is an allegation that government pressure was involved in the Fox decision somehow but if that is alleged then it needs yo be clarified who and how.
YouBet
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magnumtmp said:

TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?



Any chance she's referring to the loss of Tucker's voice to millions being bad for the 1st? I doubt she's speaking to protection for his job, Lol. I don't know the context, but the targeted quote and conclusion jumping get annoying. At least put some level of thought before flailing the arms.


Occams Razor would say this is what she means, but I don't really know much about her or pay any attention to her.

We are at a point that wrongthink is real and it really only applies to conservatives.
sam callahan
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If only she had some evidence of elected officials pressuring for his removal…
BMX Bandit
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Isn't Occam's razor essentially the "simplest explanation"?

With her, based on past statements, that answer is she is a moron is why she said this

Votes the right way though. So not all bad
AggieVictor10
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She learned it from nick fuentes
TXAggie2011
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YouBet said:

magnumtmp said:

TxAgswin said:

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?
Any chance she's referring to the loss of Tucker's voice to millions being bad for the 1st? I doubt she's speaking to protection for his job, Lol. I don't know the context, but the targeted quote and conclusion jumping get annoying. At least put some level of thought before flailing the arms.
Occams Razor would say this is what she means, but I don't really know much about her or pay any attention to her.

We are at a point that wrongthink is real and it really only applies to conservatives.
Occam's Razor would probably say she's just saying something inflammatory regardless of its accuracy.
Bill Clinternet
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She is a product of the culture war. She is an inflection point for many criticisms of the far right ideology in the United States and has arguably done more existential damage to the far right than anyone on the public scene in America today.
“A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for... is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free.”

— John Stuart Mill----On Liberty
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