Two cheerleaders shot after accidentally getting into wrong car

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Right in the wake of the homeowner shooting the woman who turned into the wrong driveway and another homeowner shooting a kid knocking on the wrong door. Shooter has been arrested.

This one hits really close, because I've definitely gotten into the wrong car on accident before.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-cheerleaders-shot-wrong-car-practice-rcna80366
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48 hour rule, right?
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Austin is a sheet hole because of this apparently.


Very sad story.
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Though reading that is tragic, I'm not entirely sure the driver isn't justified in his actions.

12:15AM someone opens your car door unannounced in a HEB parking lot. Sees you and immediately turns around and back into another vehicle. Then you roll down the window as he approaches to confront you on the matter...

This just seems like a bad sequence of events as of now more than malice.
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I did this a few weeks ago in Odessa. Opened a guy's truck door and he was sitting there talking on the phone. I apologized and thanked him for not shooting me.
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The difference here is him shooting at the car while it's trying to leave. You can defend your property as long as it's in danger. When the assailant is fleeing, you can't continue to gun them down.
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Irish 2.0 said:

Though reading that is tragic, I'm not entirely sure the driver isn't justified in his actions.

12:15AM someone opens your car door unannounced in a HEB parking lot. Sees you and immediately turns around and back into another vehicle. Then you roll down the window as he approaches to confront you on the matter...

This just seems like a bad sequence of events as of now more than malice.


It's not just a bad sequence of events.

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12:15AM someone opens your car door unannounced in a HEB parking lot. Sees you and immediately turns around and back into another vehicle.

This is where the encounter should have ended. Getting out of the car, walking over, and then shooting blindly is an act of malice.
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BMX Bandit said:

Austin is a sheet hole because of this apparently.


Very sad story.

This was in Elgin.
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Texas doesn't require retreat. The person gets back into a car and then rolls the window down. How is the driver of the other car to know you didn't go back to the car to get a weapon because you realized the car was occupied? Then you roll the window down. Yeah...bad sequence of events.

No 25 year old chilling in his car in the HEB parking lot is looking to shoot and maim some HS kids out of malice. They started this sequnce by not paying attention which vehicle was theirs.
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Irish 2.0 said:

Though reading that is tragic, I'm not entirely sure the driver isn't justified in his actions.

12:15AM someone opens your car door unannounced in a HEB parking lot. Sees you and immediately turns around and back into another vehicle. Then you roll down the window as he approaches to confront you on the matter...

This just seems like a bad sequence of events as of now more than malice.

How is it justified to follow them to their car and then shoot them after they walked away from you? No threat, and now he's the instigator.

Dude is a lunatic who probably fantasized about having an opportunity to shoot people. And I fear there are many people just like him.
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very sad state of affairs

are you boys serious that you have actually opened a door and gotten into the wrong car before?!

were you completely falling over drunk?
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See also poster here who had a Gregg Popovich car encounter.
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leachfan said:

I did this a few weeks ago in Odessa. Opened a guy's truck door and he was sitting there talking on the phone. I apologized and thanked him for not shooting me.
Get you a big sticker on your back window.
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White people shot…..nothing to see here. Move on
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Irish 2.0 said:

Texas doesn't require retreat. The person gets back into a car and then rolls the window down. How is the driver of the other car to know you didn't go back to the car to get a weapon because you realized the car was occupied? Then you roll the window down. Yeah...bad sequence of events.

No 25 year old chilling in his car in the HEB parking lot is looking to shoot and maim some HS kids out of malice. They started this sequnce by not paying attention which vehicle was theirs.
On the flip side, why is a 25 year old chilling in his car in the HEB parking lot at 12:15 in the AM? I know there ain't much to do in Elgin, but something smells funny here.
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This thread just became a bad sequence of events.
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Why does this cheerleading practice end at midnight, on a school night, for girls that have a 30 minute drive back into Austin. Why did some of the girls park at HEB and not the gym? Elgin isn't that dense so where parking should be a problem at the gym.
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Slicer97 said:

Irish 2.0 said:

Texas doesn't require retreat. The person gets back into a car and then rolls the window down. How is the driver of the other car to know you didn't go back to the car to get a weapon because you realized the car was occupied? Then you roll the window down. Yeah...bad sequence of events.

No 25 year old chilling in his car in the HEB parking lot is looking to shoot and maim some HS kids out of malice. They started this sequnce by not paying attention which vehicle was theirs.
On the flip side, why is a 25 year old chilling in his car in the HEB parking lot at 12:15 in the AM? I know there ain't much to do in Elgin, but something smells funny here.
Hanging around a gym where High School cheerleaders practice . . .
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VegasAg86 said:

Slicer97 said:

Irish 2.0 said:

Texas doesn't require retreat. The person gets back into a car and then rolls the window down. How is the driver of the other car to know you didn't go back to the car to get a weapon because you realized the car was occupied? Then you roll the window down. Yeah...bad sequence of events.

No 25 year old chilling in his car in the HEB parking lot is looking to shoot and maim some HS kids out of malice. They started this sequnce by not paying attention which vehicle was theirs.
On the flip side, why is a 25 year old chilling in his car in the HEB parking lot at 12:15 in the AM? I know there ain't much to do in Elgin, but something smells funny here.
Hanging around a gym where High School cheerleaders practice . . .


I believe the gym was in The Woodlands, these girls just met at that HEB in Elgin to carpool. They were on their way back from practice that night. Which is also why they were there so late.
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EMY92 said:

Why does this cheerleading practice end at midnight, on a school night, for girls that have a 30 minute drive back into Austin. Why did some of the girls park at HEB and not the gym? Elgin isn't that dense so where parking should be a problem at the gym.


They practice in the Woodlands. They meet in Elgin from a few different areas of Austin, then carpool in one car to the practice facility in the Woodlands.
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LMCane said:

very sad state of affairs

are you boys serious that you have actually opened a door and gotten into the wrong car before?!

were you completely falling over drunk?


Pretty easy to do in the dark if you own a common-model car. As a kid, my mother and I actually unlocked and got into a Volvo that was the same color and model. It was only when the car didn't start that we realized we were in the wrong vehicle.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

VegasAg86 said:

Slicer97 said:

Irish 2.0 said:

Texas doesn't require retreat. The person gets back into a car and then rolls the window down. How is the driver of the other car to know you didn't go back to the car to get a weapon because you realized the car was occupied? Then you roll the window down. Yeah...bad sequence of events.

No 25 year old chilling in his car in the HEB parking lot is looking to shoot and maim some HS kids out of malice. They started this sequnce by not paying attention which vehicle was theirs.
On the flip side, why is a 25 year old chilling in his car in the HEB parking lot at 12:15 in the AM? I know there ain't much to do in Elgin, but something smells funny here.
Hanging around a gym where High School cheerleaders practice . . .


I believe the gym was in The Woodlands, these girls just met at that HEB in Elgin to carpool. They were on their way back from practice that night. Which is also why they were there so late.


I think a lot of people without kids would surprised how late at night some practices for club and select sports go.
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We are going to lose our access to guns because of a small minority of idiots who can't handle them.
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"Information suggests that an altercation occurred in the parking lot of H-E-B, and multiple shots were fired into a vehicle," police said. Two of the vehicle's occupants were struck by gunfire, with one victim sustaining serious injuries and transported by helicopter to a hospital, where they were listed in critical condition, police said.

A suspect identified as Pedro Tello Rodriguez Jr., 25, was taken into custody and charged with deadly conduct, a third-degree felony, police said.
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One of the girls accidentally tried to get into the wrong car, Shearer said. That's when, she said, a "guy got out and they saw that he had a gun. And so they tried to speed off and he shot his gun, like five times or so into the car." Woodlands Elite did not immediately respond to an overnight request for comment. The Elgin Police Department also did not immediately respond to an overnight request from NBC News seeking to confirm these details.

According to ABC News, Heather Roth, a cheerleader with the Woodlands Elite, said in an Instagram Live post that she was the one who got out of her friend's car and opened the door of another vehicle she thought was her own, only to notice a man was in the passenger seat. She said she got out of the car and back into her friend's vehicle, the report said.

Roth reportedly said the man approached their vehicle and she rolled down a window to apologize. That's when the man started shooting, she said, according to ABC News. The Instagram Live post was no longer available early Wednesday, but Roth shared a number of posts that appeared to be related to the incident. She did not immediately respond to overnight request for comment.
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Justified to shoot into another vehicle that was leaving?
Sounds like this dude was up to no good and needed to eliminate witnesses.

Pedro Tello Rodriguez Jr is 25

Unsure if this is true.


Up in SA: Altercation at night in a parking lot, dude shoots into vehicle, kills woman, arrested
San Antonio Police locate man wanted for killing a woman parked near a taco truck
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jopatura said:

EMY92 said:

Why does this cheerleading practice end at midnight, on a school night, for girls that have a 30 minute drive back into Austin. Why did some of the girls park at HEB and not the gym? Elgin isn't that dense so where parking should be a problem at the gym.


They practice in the Woodlands. They meet in Elgin from a few different areas of Austin, then carpool in one car to the practice facility in the Woodlands.
That begs even more questions. Why send your teenage daughters 2.5 hours (each way) from Austin to cheerleading practice on a school night?
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GeorgiAg said:

We are going to lose our access to guns because of a small minority of idiots who can't handle them.
Or be back to revolvers, pumps, bolt and lever actions
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BassCowboy33 said:

Definitely Not A Cop said:

VegasAg86 said:

Slicer97 said:

Irish 2.0 said:

Texas doesn't require retreat. The person gets back into a car and then rolls the window down. How is the driver of the other car to know you didn't go back to the car to get a weapon because you realized the car was occupied? Then you roll the window down. Yeah...bad sequence of events.

No 25 year old chilling in his car in the HEB parking lot is looking to shoot and maim some HS kids out of malice. They started this sequnce by not paying attention which vehicle was theirs.
On the flip side, why is a 25 year old chilling in his car in the HEB parking lot at 12:15 in the AM? I know there ain't much to do in Elgin, but something smells funny here.
Hanging around a gym where High School cheerleaders practice . . .


I believe the gym was in The Woodlands, these girls just met at that HEB in Elgin to carpool. They were on their way back from practice that night. Which is also why they were there so late.


I think a lot of people without kids would surprised how late at night some practices for club and select sports go.


Also how far they will travel. Had a cousin that played select soccer in the Dallas area growing up, and there was a girl on her team who lived in Africa during the off season, and the mom would fly her over to the US during the season.
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Irish 2.0 said:

Texas doesn't require retreat. The person gets back into a car and then rolls the window down. How is the driver of the other car to know you didn't go back to the car to get a weapon because you realized the car was occupied? Then you roll the window down. Yeah...bad sequence of events.

No 25 year old chilling in his car in the HEB parking lot is looking to shoot and maim some HS kids out of malice. They started this sequnce by not paying attention which vehicle was theirs.


Idiotic.

They were teenage girls. Who the F opens fire on teenage girls in cheerleading outfits?
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EMY92 said:

jopatura said:

EMY92 said:

Why does this cheerleading practice end at midnight, on a school night, for girls that have a 30 minute drive back into Austin. Why did some of the girls park at HEB and not the gym? Elgin isn't that dense so where parking should be a problem at the gym.


They practice in the Woodlands. They meet in Elgin from a few different areas of Austin, then carpool in one car to the practice facility in the Woodlands.
That begs even more questions. Why send your teenage daughters 2.5 hours (each way) from Austin to cheerleading practice on a school night?


Woodlands is a big cheer and gymnastics center in Texas. Similar to Allen. You typically see at least one Olympic gymnasts coming from one of these areas every 4 years.
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Irish 2.0 said:

Texas doesn't require retreat. The person gets back into a car and then rolls the window down. How is the driver of the other car to know you didn't go back to the car to get a weapon because you realized the car was occupied? Then you roll the window down. Yeah...bad sequence of events.

No 25 year old chilling in his car in the HEB parking lot is looking to shoot and maim some HS kids out of malice. They started this sequnce by not paying attention which vehicle was theirs.


I have use the previous two, and I will use this in addition to speaking to my children. You need to be aware of your surroundings. You need to know what is going on. You cannot lollygag and do whatever you want because there is a real threat in this world. Especially as you grow older, and you become what appears to be more malicious.

All three of them were also preventable if young people had been using a little common sense and self awareness.
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AggieKatie2 said:
ETX is honestly starting to scare me a bit as someone who may be trigger happy.
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I tried to get into the wrong vehicle in a Wal Mart parking lot once.
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EMY92 said:

jopatura said:

EMY92 said:

Why does this cheerleading practice end at midnight, on a school night, for girls that have a 30 minute drive back into Austin. Why did some of the girls park at HEB and not the gym? Elgin isn't that dense so where parking should be a problem at the gym.


They practice in the Woodlands. They meet in Elgin from a few different areas of Austin, then carpool in one car to the practice facility in the Woodlands.
That begs even more questions. Why send your teenage daughters 2.5 hours (each way) from Austin to cheerleading practice on a school night?


Because they were competing at a very high level and it's competition season? My daughters are in gymnastics and there's not really anything in the Austin area that really compares to what you can find in Houston. If you want Olympic level coaching, you have to go to Houston.
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GeorgiAg said:

We are going to lose our access to guns because of a small minority of idiots who can't handle them.


Or because parents can't teach their children common sense.

This guy was an idiot but he didn't start the idiotic chain of events.
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AggieKatie2 said:
ETX is honestly starting to scare me a bit as someone who may be trigger happy.
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I understand what you are trying to say, but I think there is a better way to phrase it.

Just like with sexual assault, it's never the victims fault for that happening to them. It's the person who pulled the trigger. However, just because it's not your fault doesn't mean that you can lower your probability or risk of things like this happening to you.
 
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