That's just like your opinion, man.

Just to be clear, I don't hate Houston at all but it does have it's issues. I have made a good bit of
My living there and I also went to school K-12 in the clear lake area back in the 60's & 70's and it was a good place to grow up imo. I don't want to live in Harris County ever again but it's nice to be within a stone's throw due to the big city amenities and medical facilities.

As far as big metro areas go, it's probably not all that bad. I have only lived in one other big metro area, DFW and I do like Houston better mostly because I think the people are more real. I actually even like the weather better in Houston area than DFW. Not a big fan of tornadoes and super nasty thunderstorms that came with DFW. That's offset for sure by hurricanes and floods but at least you have more warning with those.

HollywoodBQ said:

---

BG Knocc Out said:

---

HollywoodBQ said:

---

I worked in Downtown Houston two weeks last year. As far as downtown areas go, Houston sucks.

During the day it's not too bad but after dark, it's deader than a door nail.

But compared to places like SF, LA, NY, etc. There is less of a chance of stepping in human excrement in Houston.

---

It used to have zero night life, but it actually gets pretty bumping on the weekends nowadays.

I was in downtown LA for a business conference last summer. I couldn't believe they even held it there. It was like a dystopian nightmare. No one felt safe there and they told everyone to avoid the streets and walk in groups if you had to. You could just leave downtown LA as is and film a post apocalyptic movie there. Drugged out homeless psychos everywhere and absolutely zero night life or day life. I don't see that place ever coming back. Complete sh**hole.

---

I found the rooftop deck at Le Meridien in downtown Houston was pretty cool but it's not like you can leave there and go to 5 other bars like you could if you were on Rush Street in Chicago.

Houston at night is great for about an hour after an Astros game and it was pretty hopping after the Bad Bunny concert I went to at Minute Maid. But the rest of the time - dead.

---

Im no Houston defender, but come on! A few blocks away from Le Meridien is Main st, and theres tons of bars, clubs, restaurants on Main st. It gets packed with people on the weekends. Go on any random weekend and you will see tons of people walking around on Main st at night, and the bars will be packed.

I've noticed people think downtown is dead because they never go out there at night on the weekends. Is any big city's downtown popping on a random Wednesday or something?

ea1060 said:

---

HollywoodBQ said:

---

BG Knocc Out said:

---

HollywoodBQ said:

---

I worked in Downtown Houston two weeks last year. As far as downtown areas go, Houston sucks.

During the day it's not too bad but after dark, it's deader than a door nail.

But compared to places like SF, LA, NY, etc. There is less of a chance of stepping in human excrement in Houston.

---

It used to have zero night life, but it actually gets pretty bumping on the weekends nowadays.

I was in downtown LA for a business conference last summer. I couldn't believe they even held it there. It was like a dystopian nightmare. No one felt safe there and they told everyone to avoid the streets and walk in groups if you had to. You could just leave downtown LA as is and film a post apocalyptic movie there. Drugged out homeless psychos everywhere and absolutely zero night life or day life. I don't see that place ever coming back. Complete sh**hole.

---

I found the rooftop deck at Le Meridien in downtown Houston was pretty cool but it's not like you can leave there and go to 5 other bars like you could if you were on Rush Street in Chicago.

Houston at night is great for about an hour after an Astros game and it was pretty hopping after the Bad Bunny concert I went to at Minute Maid. But the rest of the time - dead.

---

Im no Houston defender, but come on! A few blocks away from Le Meridien is Main st, and theres tons of bars, clubs, restaurants on Main st. It gets packed with people on the weekends. Go on any random weekend and you will see tons of people walking around on Main st at night, and the bars will be packed.

I've noticed people think downtown is dead because they never go out there at night on the weekends. Is any big city's downtown popping on a random Wednesday or something?

---

Yes - but I think most of them have San in the name - Diego, Francisco, Juan, Antonio.

Like I said, I spent two weeks there last September and during the weeknights downtown, the only place to go was the Flying Saucer and I got worn out on that pretty quick.

Over the past couple years, I've spent a couple weekends in Downtown Houston and honestly, the crew that's running the streets at night aren't really folks I want to be hanging out with.

But that rooftop bar at Le Meridien, I'll definitely be back.

Downtown Houston is not like it was pre-COVID. I wouldn't be caught there after dark like I used to be. Borderline ****hole.

The story about that rapper getting killed is pretty wild. He killed a friend of the dudes that killed him and got off on self defense. Decided to run his mouth and got killed.

halfastros81 said:

---

Just to be clear, I don't hate Houston at all but it does have it's issues. I have made a good bit of
My living there and I also went to school K-12 in the clear lake area back in the 60's & 70's and it was a good place to grow up imo. I don't want to live in Harris County ever again but it's nice to be within a stone's throw due to the big city amenities and medical facilities.

As far as big metro areas go, it's probably not all that bad. I have only lived in one other big metro area, DFW and I do like Houston better mostly because I think the people are more real. I actually even like the weather better in Houston area than DFW. Not a big fan of tornadoes and super nasty thunderstorms that came with DFW. That's offset for sure by hurricanes and floods but at least you have more warning with those.

---

Have you seen that Apollo 10 1/2 show on Netflix?
Wife forced us to watch it since she went to Ed White Elementary which is where the show opens.

2nd Paragraph - the description you're looking for is "a poser from Dallas"

Urban Ag said:

---

I'm currently on the edge of rural Texas and 70 minutes later at the gate to my ranch. Not changing that.

---

Username does not check out

Kellso said:

---

halfastros81 said:

---

Other than ridiculously hot and humid weather for 6 mos of the yr, ridiculous traffic, flooding potential, some (not all) unsightly areas , high crime rates , and generally poorly run city and county governments I can't see why people would think it sucks.

---

I don't know.....I've seen much worse Cities.

I've honestly never understood the hate for Houston.

I had a buddy from Denver that lived just north of The Woodlands. He lived in a very nice neighborhood in either Conroe or Montgomery Country.

He hated Houston. He hated living there, and he said that I wouldn't understand when I'm only there for a few days on business, or a random weekend. I go to Houston a lot for business.

He's since moved his family back to Denver, but what he stated was that Houston wore on you......just like Los Angeles.
He said that LA has a lot of the same urban problems, but at least they have great weather, and fantastic scenery.

---

I've lived in Denver and LA and I'd put it like this.

The Colorado economy is historically boom/bust so at some point, you're going to lose your job. There's plenty to do outdoors and the winters really aren't that bad.

The LA economy is for the most part, more stable but, the environmental factors are terrible with respect to cost of living, taxes, homeless, traffic, etc. Upside - the weather is pretty great, almost all the time.

I liked Denver but it was too cold for my wife who is from Houston.

In LA, the weather is good, it's too damn crowded and during the past 8+ years, it's been headed straight for the toilet. But... since so few people are willing to live here, it's real easy for anybody with any kind of work ethic to remain employed.

Jock 07 said:

---

Esteban du Plantier said:

---

It's sorta like how Fran Lebowitz described New York. Nobody actually enjoys it, it sucks. But New Yorkers are proud of how tough they are for living in such a terrible place. They don't like the place, they like how cool they are for enduring the terrible place.

All my Houston friends act the same way. When I visit every 3-6 weeks from the most incredible place to live on earth (College Station), I'm blown away by how much Houston sucks.

---

College Station is basically a cypress suburb/NW Houston at this point

---

Even when I was a student, it was hilariously weird to me that BCS people thought there was something far superior and magical about sitting in traffic in front of strip malls on on (Business) Highway 6 in College Station as opposed to doing the exact same thing with the exact same scenery on Highway 6 in Harris County.

LegalDrugPusher said:

---

I will say this as a native of Dallas. Houston is friendlier and much much better food selections. But Houston is a crap hole and dirt

---

Many times as the plane is preparing to land at Hobby and I am viewing the surroundingn area, I ask myseld why I live here. Then I remember it has one of, if not the best, earnings/cost of living ratios you can find.

So he is correct, it is not beautiful. But f him, anyway.

I haven't.

I lived in Timber Cove and went to Bay Elementary but most of my buddies lived in El Lago. You probably won't know the area but your wife will

Some of my best Aggie buds are from DFW but the general populace around me when I lived there were …. Different. I'm understating it… more like bsc.

Captain Pablo said:

---

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

---

I was born in Bellaire, spent my first 8 years in Sharpstown, then moved to Lake Jackson. Now I live in Katy Cinco Ranch. Would not live in Houston even if gifted a home inside that cesspool. When I finished at A&M and was deciding on a place to live, I never once considered doing the "hip" thing and moving into the midtown or downtown areas of Houston. Just no appeal to that for me. Since A&M, I've spent two years with an actual Houston address, but even that one was in far west Houston. Also lived in Missouri City, Richmond Pecan Grove, and now Katy.

I go to great lengths to limit my time in Houston. My employer has an office at City Centre, which I go to once a week, but that is it. Haven't been to the Museum district since my daughter was little. Haven't been to a Texans game since 2012 and an Astros game since 2018. Did plan to get to Minute Maid last month for the Ags vs Rice, but had a foot injury that kept me from venturing into the Houston ****hole.

---

Lol. I've had some great times in recent years at the museum district, Minute Maid, Menil, midtown, But you showed them

---

Hates Houston so much that he only lives in Houston suburbs just outside of the city limits so he can say he doesn't technically live in Houston.

BluHorseShu said:

---

zagman said:

---

Dan Scott said:

---

It's not so much that Houston is ugly, it's there's nothing to do as a tourist. Downtown Houston is dead and has nothing worth seeing. Reliant Stadium is isolated surrounded by nothing. You need a car to get around.

---

I love it even more if it gets CM's to stay away.

---

Not sure you get how CMs generally vote. Especially in Texas. It's the leftists you want to stay away.

---

Both are mentally weak liberals we would be better without. Stay away.

Houston skyline is much better than Dallas. But then you have to deal with crap like this.

So glad I no longer live there.

Parents are concerned after seeing a video showing a student punching a teacher in the face on Thursday.

Students are sharing the video on social media.

It happened at Lamar High School, Houston, Texas, and those who have seen the video are upset, saying it should have never… pic.twitter.com/Bke5YcRwFO

— D. Scott @eclipsethis2003 (@eclipsethis2003) April 7, 2023

That's everywhere now

Cynic said:

---

That's everywhere now

---

True, but Houston's having their fair share right now with all the robberies in the nice areas and such. It's gotten much worse just in the past 10 years.

AxelFoley85 said:

---

The story about that rapper getting killed is pretty wild. He killed a friend of the dudes that killed him and got off on self defense. Decided to run his mouth and got killed.

---

Yep and it's crazy how quickly they responded after he posted the image online. Like just a few hours.

It was a crazy thing to witness. Didn't see the shooting, just the aftermath. But heard it from bar patio half a block away and it was insane. Also nuts being in River Oaks, broad daylight, peak rush hour. San Felipe was bustling and there had to be a ton of witnesses.

Future horn player.

Tex100 said:

---

LegalDrugPusher said:

---

I will say this as a native of Dallas. Houston is friendlier and much much better food selections. But Houston is a crap hole and dirt

---

Many times as the plane is preparing to land at Hobby and I am viewing the surroundingn area, I ask myseld why I live here. Then I remember it has one of, if not the best, earnings/cost of living ratios you can find.

So he is correct, it is not beautiful. But f him, anyway.

---

I have traveled the entire country plenty over the years and Houston is probably my fav food city.

BG Knocc Out said:

---

Tex100 said:

---

LegalDrugPusher said:

---

I will say this as a native of Dallas. Houston is friendlier and much much better food selections. But Houston is a crap hole and dirt

---

Many times as the plane is preparing to land at Hobby and I am viewing the surroundingn area, I ask myseld why I live here. Then I remember it has one of, if not the best, earnings/cost of living ratios you can find.

So he is correct, it is not beautiful. But f him, anyway.

---

I have traveled the entire country plenty over the years and Houston is probably my fav food city.

---

Agreed

AlaskanAg99 said:

---

buda91 said:

---

Old line: "houston is a great place to live, but you wouldn't want to visit there"

---

100%. I'm here for career development and low cost of living. I came from San Diego which is pretty but brutal to live there.

---

My sister lived in Lemon Grove and in her idealized view it was the most wonderful place in the world. She was born in Alabama but we were both raised on the gulf coast of Florida. She can have California, I will take Florida any day. I moved to the DFW metroplex for work, but I like this area also.

2aggiesmom said:

---

AlaskanAg99 said:

---

buda91 said:

---

Old line: "houston is a great place to live, but you wouldn't want to visit there"

---

100%. I'm here for career development and low cost of living. I came from San Diego which is pretty but brutal to live there.

---

My sister lived in Lemon Grove and in her idealized view it was the most wonderful place in the world. She was born in Alabama but we were both raised on the gulf coast of Florida. She can have California, I will take Florida any day. I moved to the DFW metroplex for work, but I like this area also.

---

Lemon Grove? That **** is dirty and shady despite its name. Not ghetto, but ghetto adjacent.

Can't wait for my daughter to graduate and I'm outta here. I grew up in Houston, Spring and now live in the Woodlands. I hate all of it now. Too many people, too much noise, too much light pollution, too much traffic...ugh.

Give me 40+ acres in the hill country where I can see the Milky Way at night and not hear or see my neighbors.

You guys can have your cities.

Microwave Onions said:

---

Jock 07 said:

---

Esteban du Plantier said:

---

It's sorta like how Fran Lebowitz described New York. Nobody actually enjoys it, it sucks. But New Yorkers are proud of how tough they are for living in such a terrible place. They don't like the place, they like how cool they are for enduring the terrible place.

All my Houston friends act the same way. When I visit every 3-6 weeks from the most incredible place to live on earth (College Station), I'm blown away by how much Houston sucks.

---

College Station is basically a cypress suburb/NW Houston at this point

---

Even when I was a student, it was hilariously weird to me that BCS people thought there was something far superior and magical about sitting in traffic in front of strip malls on on (Business) Highway 6 in College Station as opposed to doing the exact same thing with the exact same scenery on Highway 6 in Harris County.

---

Houston traffic has arrived in BCS and the housing in BCS is more expensive.

We are ready to cash out and head for the country.

LegalDrugPusher said:

---

I will say this as a native of Dallas. Houston is friendlier and much much better food selections. But Houston is a crap hole and dirty.

---

Agree and i live here. Regrets.

The greater Houston area, especially in the NW part, is one of the best places to live.

-Low cost of living. Houston has one of the best real estate markets in the country. People from the east and west coast have been flocking to Houston in DROVES.
-Houston has one of the best job markets in the world.
-Great neighborhoods with big homes and your back yard oasis. (The land of backyard swimming pools, outdoor kitchens, covered patios and natural gas fire pits and a whole home generator)
-Some of the best school districts in the country (Tomball ISD, for example)
-The suburbs are packed with top of line grocery stores, restaurants, bars, live music, golf courses and entertainment venues.
-It can get hot, but there is something called air conditioning. And don't forget about your pool that you can swim in year round.
-Lots of easy access to freeways which make your commute from the burbs to the city easier (Get to work early and go home early to beat the traffic)
-Houston may be subject to the occasional Hurricane, but there is not much of a worry about earthquakes, forest fires, tornados or tidal waves.
-So many different cultures and people.
-IAH is a major hub airport with direct flights to the world.
-You can get to lakes, rivers and the ocean within 1-2 hours and there is a Buc-ees on every outgoing route!

Houston Lee said:

---

The greater Houston area, especially in the NW part, is one of the best places to live.

-Low cost of living. Houston has one of the best real estate markets in the country. People from the east and west coast have been flocking to Houston in DROVES.
-Houston has one of the best job markets in the world.
-Great neighborhoods with big homes and your back yard oasis. (The land of backyard swimming pools, outdoor kitchens, covered patios and natural gas fire pits and a whole home generator)
-Some of the best school districts in the country (Tomball ISD, for example)
-The suburbs are packed with top of line grocery stores, restaurants, bars, live music, golf courses and entertainment venues.
-It can get hot, but there is something called air conditioning. And don't forget about your pool that you can swim in year round.
-Lots of easy access to freeways which make your commute from the burbs to the city easier (Get to work early and go home early to beat the traffic)
-Houston may be subject to the occasional Hurricane, but there is not much of a worry about earthquakes, forest fires, tornados or tidal waves.
-So many different cultures and people.
-IAH is a major hub airport with direct flights to the world.
-You can get to lakes, rivers and the ocean within 1-2 hours and there is a Buc-ees on every outgoing route!

---

A lot of people don't think living 30 miles outside of the city and dealing with insane commutes is all that appealing.

Has anyone seen Connecticut? If it's better, why is everyone moving to Texas?

Muy said:

---

Has anyone seen Connecticut? If it's better, why is everyone moving to Texas?

---

Hartford is ugly as hell. That's what I don't get about all the Houston hate.

Where are all these beautiful cities???????

The West Coast is full of beautiful cities like Los Angeles, Seattle, San Diego, San Francisco....,etc. But LA and San Francisco have horrible urban problems, and deal with many of the same issues that Houston does.

Miami is beautiful near the water as well as certain inland neighborhoods like Coral Gables or Weston.....but most of Miami looks like a 3rd world country.....see names like lil Havana and Lil Cuba as examples.

Wow....Hartford. What a beautiful city. I always see Hartford on the list of upcoming, growing cities that everyone is moving too.

So downtown Hartford is like Houston in the late 60's. Great progress there Hartford.

Kellso said:

---

Muy said:

---

Has anyone seen Connecticut? If it's better, why is everyone moving to Texas?

---

Hartford is ugly as hell. That's what I don't get about all the Houston hate.

Where are all these beautiful cities???????

The West Coast is full of beautiful cities like Los Angeles, Seattle, San Diego, San Francisco....,etc. But LA and San Francisco have horrible urban problems, and deal with many of the same issues that Houston does.

Miami is beautiful near the water as well as certain inland neighborhoods like Coral Gables or Weston.....but most of Miami looks like a 3rd world country.....see names like lil Havana and Lil Cuba as examples.

Wow....Hartford. What a beautiful city. I always see Hartford on the list of upcoming, growing cities that everyone is moving too.

---

Downtown Hartford is ugly… but you can get to a lot of green 10 minutes out of it. If you get 10 minutes out of Houston… you get a lot of concrete, strip malls and continuous litter on the entire 10 minute drive.

ATM9000 said:

---

Kellso said:

---

Muy said:

---

Has anyone seen Connecticut? If it's better, why is everyone moving to Texas?

---

Hartford is ugly as hell. That's what I don't get about all the Houston hate.

Where are all these beautiful cities???????

The West Coast is full of beautiful cities like Los Angeles, Seattle, San Diego, San Francisco....,etc. But LA and San Francisco have horrible urban problems, and deal with many of the same issues that Houston does.

Miami is beautiful near the water as well as certain inland neighborhoods like Coral Gables or Weston.....but most of Miami looks like a 3rd world country.....see names like lil Havana and Lil Cuba as examples.

Wow....Hartford. What a beautiful city. I always see Hartford on the list of upcoming, growing cities that everyone is moving too.

---

Downtown Hartford is ugly… but you can get to a lot of green 10 minutes out of it. If you get 10 minutes out of Houston… you get a lot of concrete, strip malls and continuous litter on the entire 10 minute drive.

---

Hermann Park and Memorial Park don't count as green spaces?

What about Conroe, Kingwood and The Woodlands?
That aint green?

Hartford has about the same # of people as Sugarland. You really can't compare it to a large city like Houston.

MAROON said:

---

Hartford has about the same # of people as Sugarland. You really can't compare it to a large city like Houston.

---

Harris County, if it were a state, would have a million more people than Connecticut.