Sam and Dean said:

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Dan Scott said:

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It's not so much that Houston is ugly, it's there's nothing to do as a tourist. Downtown Houston is dead and has nothing worth seeing. Reliant Stadium is isolated surrounded by nothing. You need a car to get around.

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no.it is ugly.

there is no shame in admitting it.

but at least it is a resilient and growing city unlike many of the ****holes up north.

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Having been born and raised 40 minutes from Houston, and moved away 21 years ago, I must concur that it is not an attractive city, but when I'm driving from Dallas and see that Houston skyline, its beautiful to me because that means I'm almost home.

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For me, it was always looking out of the airplane window and seeing the pine trees when we landed at Intercontinental Airport. That meant we were finally "home".

Over the next year, thanks to El Nino, Houston will be even more of a swamp

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LegalDrugPusher said:

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I will say this as a native of Dallas. Houston is friendlier and much much better food selections. But Houston is a crap hole and dirty.

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They're both democrat run **** holes filled with ignorant, idiot *******s. I'm ashamed they're Texas cities. We should build a wall around them and fill it with water. Add Austin too for good measure.

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Do you even San Antonio bro?

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Good catch. Add that to the list too.

TexAgs91 said:

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Over the next year, thanks to El Nino, Houston will be even more of a swamp

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Hey!

Bandera Co needs the rain. Bring on THE NINO!

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I worked in Downtown Houston two weeks last year. As far as downtown areas go, Houston sucks.

During the day it's not too bad but after dark, it's deader than a door nail.

But compared to places like SF, LA, NY, etc. There is less of a chance of stepping in human excrement in Houston.

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It used to have zero night life, but it actually gets pretty bumping on the weekends nowadays.

I was in downtown LA for a business conference last summer. I couldn't believe they even held it there. It was like a dystopian nightmare. No one felt safe there and they told everyone to avoid the streets and walk in groups if you had to. You could just leave downtown LA as is and film a post apocalyptic movie there. Drugged out homeless psychos everywhere and absolutely zero night life or day life. I don't see that place ever coming back. Complete sh**hole.

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I found the rooftop deck at Le Meridien in downtown Houston was pretty cool but it's not like you can leave there and go to 5 other bars like you could if you were on Rush Street in Chicago.

Houston at night is great for about an hour after an Astros game and it was pretty hopping after the Bad Bunny concert I went to at Minute Maid. But the rest of the time - dead.

I can't believe anybody would hold a conference in DTLA. Just navigating the homeless would be too much for most people. And you never know when a homeless person is going to all of a sudden start raging on you. Very dangerous.

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Houston is absolutely not a tourist city. There are no major tourist sites, it is brutally hot 6 months of the year and flatter than a pancake.

As a metro area, it is a great place to raise a family, people are nice, the food is great, and the price of living is low.

That being said City Centre, the Heights, Museum District, Galleria are all nice areas and have good nightlife.

I have lived a significant amount of time in Dallas and Houston. It's close but I think Houston is better.

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Houston has: NASA, rodeo, and top professional sports teams (hosts super bowls, major tournament games). On top of that the art museums are top 10 in the nation maybe top 5 and the natural science museum is top as well. It feels like you can find a brewery every 3 miles.

Now outside of the rodeo houston's tourist things aren't Instagram sights so it just isn't seen as a tourist spot.

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NASA is fine but they really haven't added enough to make it a must see tourist attraction. The Rodeo is awesome but it is one month a year. Sports are great and glad we always hold events but we don't really have an iconic sports city like Boston, New York, etc. Every major city has breweries every 5 feet now and no one travels to a city for top 10 museums.

Again, I think Houston is underrated but no one is hopping on a plane to visit for their vacation.

That being said it has all the amenities of a major city at 1/2 the price. So it balances out.

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Over the next year, thanks to El Nino, Houston will be even more of a swamp

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Yep...this "Spring" really sucks so far

Really hope it's not just nasty all Spring and Summer

As someone who has lived in Houston metro over half my life I can say this… Houston is a great place to work.

I still have to drive in to work in Spring but I finally got out of living in Houston metro and I like it a lot. It's still nice to have the amenities available within 45 mins to 2 hrs depending on where you need to go but honestly about the only thing I do there now outside of work is specialty shopping, maybe a restaurant now and then, or an Astros game 3-4 x a yr.

Most big cities suck .
It could be a lot better if run by actual public servants rather than self serving borderline criminals but you get what you vote for.

Born and raised in Houston. It is an ugly, boring city with horrible humidity. Moved away when I went to college and never went back.

Left in 2016 and will never live there again. Only thing I miss is the food and family.

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Hartford isn't some paradise either. It's basically generic East Coast City that no one cares about. Connecticut is for commuters.

Fun fact, Connecticut is 5000 Square miles, the Houston Metro is 10,000. Population is also twice the size of Connecticut. So maybe the Houston Metro should get 4 Senators just to be fair.

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Seeing who these morons elect to run the city and the county... let's not

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Houston METRO not Houston PROPER. Houston Metro includes all the Dark Red around Houston. Honestly it would probably be 3-3 or 4-2 GOP but Mass/CT/RI are all Dark Blue Safe Seats. Democrats don't even have to try there.

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"Houston is a cruel, crazy town on a filthy river in East Texas with no zoning laws and a culture of sex, money and violence. It's a shabby, sprawling metropolis ruled by brazen women, crooked cops and super-rich pansexual cowboys who live by the code of the West -- which can mean just about anything you need it to mean, in a pinch." ~ Hunter S. Thompson

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That makes it sound way cooler than it is...

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If you've ever driven down Westheimer going west from the Galleria, you know that the description of "Butt Ugly" was actually being kind.

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Agreed.

There are huge swaths of Houston that look like a third-world country, and that's just in the southwest part of the city.

Driving Highway 6 from say West Airport to Westheimer; Bissonnet from West U out west; and all the north-south roads like Gessner, Fondren, Hillcroft, etc. is eye-opening.

Houston's mix of ample work opportunities, relative low cost of living and proximity to the border is a magnet for poor immigrants, and the city reflects that.

Plus, the city itself is way to big and spread out to ever really invest properly in amenities that could improve the visual aesthetics in a meaningful way.

I loved growing up in Spring Branch in the 80's and 90's. West Houston was pretty awesome back then, don't care what anyone says.

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It's not so much that Houston is ugly, it's there's nothing to do as a tourist. Downtown Houston is dead and has nothing worth seeing. Reliant Stadium is isolated surrounded by nothing. You need a car to get around.

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I love it even more if it gets CM's to stay away.

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Not sure you get how CMs generally vote. Especially in Texas. It's the leftists you want to stay away.

I have lived in downtown Houston for 22 years. Houston, 32 years. Nights and weekends now are not like used to be. It is far from quite. When I first moved downtown nights and weekends were peaceful. No homeless because there we no people to bum money from. At the few bars that were here we knew each other. And then they went and ruined it, for me. My wife and I are selling our place. With the extra people comes more homeless and crime. We used to walk the bayou. Not anymore. On main street in the morning the homeless have their box shelters set up. They are moved away before downtown office workers arrive.

Bought land between Kerrville and Fredericksburg to build a house.

Old downtown Houston bars…Sunny's, La Carafe, Warren's Inn….fun times.

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It's sorta like how Fran Lebowitz described New York. Nobody actually enjoys it, it sucks. But New Yorkers are proud of how tough they are for living in such a terrible place. They don't like the place, they like how cool they are for enduring the terrible place.

All my Houston friends act the same way. When I visit every 3-6 weeks from the most incredible place to live on earth (College Station), I'm blown away by how much Houston sucks.

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Why do people think that Houston sucks?

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I loved growing up in Spring Branch in the 80's and 90's. West Houston was pretty awesome back then, don't care what anyone says.

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I'd agree that west and northwest Houston was pretty cool in the 80's and 90's. I had cousins who grew up at Memorial and Eldridge. We visited many times and while I was at A&M in the mid 90's I was down there probably every other week for a day or two, mostly because my aunt and uncle had a great house and he BBQ's all the time.

From there, I didn't spend much time in Htown except dropping in for meetings now and then. In and out. But I had to take a project at the end of 08 that had me in Houston every week for two years. I grew to pretty much hate the place.

Last week the wife and I went on a cruise out of Galveston. First time I had driven across the city since before Covid. What a dump. Sure there are nice areas but so much of it looks like a third world country. And the roads are just f'ing terrible. Dallas, Austin, and SA have their fair share of third world charm to be certain but Houston just seems to go on forever. Terrifying thought to me to get stuck there during some natural or man made disaster or social upheaval. No thanks.

I'm currently on the edge of rural Texas and 70 minutes later at the gate to my ranch. Not changing that.

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"Houston is a cruel, crazy town on a filthy river in East Texas with no zoning laws and a culture of sex, money and violence. It's a shabby, sprawling metropolis ruled by brazen women, crooked cops and super-rich pansexual cowboys who live by the code of the West -- which can mean just about anything you need it to mean, in a pinch." ~ Hunter S. Thompson

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My wife has that quote in a picture frame. It's dated but still funny.

Connecticut is one of those boutique states. Not even a real state.

Downtown Denver and Austin are filthy and smelly

I'm from Houston. It's ugly.

All big cities are ugly to me though so take that for what its worth.

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I have good friends from Houston. That said, Houston sucks. It's ugly, uncomfortable, terrible traffic. No one from there wants to go back once they leave.

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I know several people from out of state that came to work in Houston, *****ed about everything while they were here, got homesick, went back home, and then returned to Houston 5 years later.

If it weren't so hot, humid, flat, and ugly, everyone would want to live here.

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93MarineHorn said:

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I have good friends from Houston. That said, Houston sucks. It's ugly, uncomfortable, terrible traffic. No one from there wants to go back once they leave.

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I know several people from out of state that came to work in Houston, *****ed about everything while they were here, got homesick, went back home, and then returned to Houston 5 years later.

If it weren't so hot, humid, flat, and ugly, everyone would want to live here.

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Worked with a guy from Vermont who absolutely fell in love with Houston. Didn't realize how much he hated cold and loved heat until he moved here for work. I thought it was crazy how much he liked summer here because I would imagine summer in Vermont is pretty amazing. Think he just hates the cold dark winters THAT much. He thought the people here were amazing as well.

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I loved growing up in Spring Branch in the 80's and 90's. West Houston was pretty awesome back then, don't care what anyone says.

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I'd agree that west and northwest Houston was pretty cool in the 80's and 90's. I had cousins who grew up at Memorial and Eldridge. We visited many times and while I was at A&M in the mid 90's I was down there probably every other week for a day or two, mostly because my aunt and uncle had a great house and he BBQ's all the time.

From there, I didn't spend much time in Htown except dropping in for meetings now and then. In and out. But I had to take a project at the end of 08 that had me in Houston every week for two years. I grew to pretty much hate the place.

Last week the wife and I went on a cruise out of Galveston. First time I had driven across the city since before Covid. What a dump. Sure there are nice areas but so much of it looks like a third world country. And the roads are just f'ing terrible. Dallas, Austin, and SA have their fair share of third world charm to be certain but Houston just seems to go on forever. Terrifying thought to me to get stuck there during some natural or man made disaster or social upheaval. No thanks.

I'm currently on the edge of rural Texas and 70 minutes later at the gate to my ranch. Not changing that.

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Agreed, as soon as we found out we had a little one on the way we GTFO to deep Cypress. Only go in if we absolutely have to or when we get the hankering for food from certain places we frequented when living closer in. I lived in a "nice" area for the better part of a decade and heard gun shots in the distance all the time.

Houston is an hour away from houston.

Other than ridiculously hot and humid weather for 6 mos of the yr, ridiculous traffic, flooding potential, some (not all) unsightly areas , high crime rates , and generally poorly run city and county governments I can't see why people would think it sucks.

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Hartford isn't some paradise either. It's basically generic East Coast City that no one cares about. Connecticut is for commuters.

Fun fact, Connecticut is 5000 Square miles, the Houston Metro is 10,000. Population is also twice the size of Connecticut. So maybe the Houston Metro should get 4 Senators just to be fair.

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I always joked with one of my employees from Connecticut that the state is just a wealthy suburb of NYC!

Houston has a lot of suckage, but those trying to bestow its virtues are all missing an area where it excels; in the performing arts. But then, yall are all uncooth, looser morans, so that's a given.

Is there an "accurate" estimation of how many B/CS residents have a "full time" job in Houston?

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Other than ridiculously hot and humid weather for 6 mos of the yr, ridiculous traffic, flooding potential, some (not all) unsightly areas , high crime rates , and generally poorly run city and county governments I can't see why people would think it sucks.

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I don't know.....I've seen much worse Cities.

I've honestly never understood the hate for Houston.

I had a buddy from Denver that lived just north of The Woodlands. He lived in a very nice neighborhood in either Conroe or Montgomery Country.

He hated Houston. He hated living there, and he said that I wouldn't understand when I'm only there for a few days on business, or a random weekend. I go to Houston a lot for business.

He's since moved his family back to Denver, but what he stated was that Houston wore on you......just like Los Angeles.
He said that LA has a lot of the same urban problems, but at least they have great weather, and fantastic scenery.