zwhag2010 said:

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He and his lawyer should sue the pants off of the DA and anyone else associated with withholding evidence

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I'm not the litigious type, but absolutely this.

Jason C. said:

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Amazing what happens when your defense is finally allowed access to the states "evidence" against you and sees "oh look, these charges are FOS!"

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Imagine being one of the guys who plead out

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I never would have no matter how long they kept me, at least I hope I would.

However, I don't fault someone else for not doing this. Everyone is different.

annie88 said:

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zwhag2010 said:

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He and his lawyer should sue the pants off of the DA and anyone else associated with withholding evidence

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I'm not the litigious type, but absolutely this.

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It's time to end prosecutorial immunity. Malicious prosecution by the government against the innocent to provide a convenient story is abhorrent.

spider96 said:

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annie88 said:

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zwhag2010 said:

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He and his lawyer should sue the pants off of the DA and anyone else associated with withholding evidence

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I'm not the litigious type, but absolutely this.

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It's time to end prosecutorial immunity. Malicious prosecution by the government against the innocent to provide a convenient story is abhorrent.

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What was he innocent of?

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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spider96 said:

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annie88 said:

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zwhag2010 said:

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He and his lawyer should sue the pants off of the DA and anyone else associated with withholding evidence

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I'm not the litigious type, but absolutely this.

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It's time to end prosecutorial immunity. Malicious prosecution by the government against the innocent to provide a convenient story is abhorrent.

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What was he innocent of?

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Lol. That's not how this works.

What is he GUILTY of? Trespassing?
Being led around by police that literally opened doors for him?

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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spider96 said:

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annie88 said:

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zwhag2010 said:

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He and his lawyer should sue the pants off of the DA and anyone else associated with withholding evidence

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I'm not the litigious type, but absolutely this.

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It's time to end prosecutorial immunity. Malicious prosecution by the government against the innocent to provide a convenient story is abhorrent.

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What was he innocent of?

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Lol. That's not how this works.

What is he GUILTY of? Trespassing?
Being led around by police that literally opened doors for him?

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You claimed he was innocent. So you believe he didn't break the laws that he agreed he broke?

Which laws did he say he broke? I'm actually asking b/c I didn't follow it as closely as I should have.

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Which laws did he say he broke? I'm actually asking b/c I didn't follow it as closely as I should have.

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That's what I figured. Come back once you've educated yourself.

Did 6 cops follow him out to the car?

So you don't know either.

Copy.

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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annie88 said:

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zwhag2010 said:

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He and his lawyer should sue the pants off of the DA and anyone else associated with withholding evidence

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I'm not the litigious type, but absolutely this.

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It's time to end prosecutorial immunity. Malicious prosecution by the government against the innocent to provide a convenient story is abhorrent.

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What was he innocent of?

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The dude was in prison for obstruction of an official proceeding which carried a 41 month sentence. The prosecutors had also charged him with civil disorder, violent entry, and disorderly conduct.

The FBI also withheld exculpatory evidence from the defense team. Which would certainly have affected his original plea. Dude was maybe guilty of trespassing at best. He was held without bail also. Everyone deserves a fair trial regardless of political affiliation. Would you not agree?


DOJ broke the law

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Albert Watkins, whose client Jacob Chansley pleaded guilty to felony charges in connection with the Capitol riot and was sentenced to 41 months in prison, said Department of Justice prosecutors were legally bound to turn over the footage. Clips shown on Carlson's Fox News Channel program show Chansley walking freely and peaceably through the building, often accompanied by multiple police officers.

"We did not receive that video footage," Watkins said. "We asked for it, and not just once or twice. Whether we asked for it or not is irrelevant because the government had an absolute, non-compromisible duty to disclose that video and they did not do so."

"And all the while, they were actively representing to the court and the American people that Jake was a leader, leading the charge into the Capitol," he said. "They did not disclose that footage because it ran contrary to their rote narrative."

Watkins, an attorney for nearly 40 years, told The Daily Wire he was stunned to see the footage, which he could have used to defend Chansley.

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— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) March 30, 2023

So admitted to being guilty of what they accused him of. Thanks.

Doesn't almost every prisoner get out early?

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So admitted to being guilty of what they accused him of. Thanks.

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No, he plead out after being denied evidence that would have affected his plea.

So you don't obviously don't believe in fair trials. Any other portions of the fifth amendment you don't care about? Which other portions of the bill of rights do you want to eliminate?

Don't make dumb statement about me not wanting fair trials.

So his lawyer filed paperwork to overturn that, right?

Or he forgot to tell his lawyer about being escorted around the Capitol building?

The Federal government committed a Brady violation and violated his civil rights.

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The Federal government committed a Brady violation and violated his civil rights.

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I'm still surprised that he didn't tell his lawyer about being escorted around the Capitol building. It's truly shocking.

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Don't make dumb statement about me not wanting fair trials.

So his lawyer filed paperwork to overturn that, right?

Or he forgot to tell his lawyer about being escorted around the Capitol building?

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See his lawyer's comments above!

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The Federal government committed a Brady violation and violated his civil rights.

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I'm still surprised that he didn't tell his lawyer about being escorted around the Capitol building. It's truly shocking.

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Interesting that you support the government withholding evidence that would support innocence, comrade

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Don't make dumb statement about me not wanting fair trials.

So his lawyer filed paperwork to overturn that, right?

Or he forgot to tell his lawyer about being escorted around the Capitol building?

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The fact you keep skipping over the fact that the feds withheld evidence is concerning. You keep goaltending for the feds here. Do you not realize that you are arguing against fair trials for political opponents?

He had to have told his lawyer what he did inside the building. His lawyers certainly requested multiple times for video of the incident.

I'm still not sure they withheld evidence. His lawyer should have gone through every single moment of his time in the Capitol building and noticed that there were missing chunks.

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I'm still not sure they withheld evidence. His lawyer should have gone through every single moment of his time in the Capitol building and noticed that there were missing chunks.

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Well then he could easily argue that he had ineffective council then, wouldnt you agree?

Where did I say that?

It's possible but that isn't a government conspiracy.

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It's possible but that isn't a government conspiracy.

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Dont wiggle out of this one. You said he was guilty of the crimes he plead to.

You're wrong. Either the DOJ committed a Brady violation or his council was ineffective. Those are the only two options. In both cases, his civil rights were violated.

Both are cases where he should be exonerated.

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So admitted to being guilty of what they accused him of. Thanks.

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Holy cow what a miserable person.

BadMoonRisin said:

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It's possible but that isn't a government conspiracy.

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Dont wiggle out of this one. You said he was guilty of the crimes he plead to.

You're wrong. Either the DOJ committed a Brady violation or his council was ineffective. Those are the only two options. In both cases, his civil rights were violated.

Both are cases where he should be exonerated.

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No, he said he was guilty of the crime he was accused of.

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I'm still not sure they withheld evidence. His lawyer should have gone through every single moment of his time in the Capitol building and noticed that there were missing chunks.

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Well it doesn't matter what you are sure of. You don't get a say.

Video evidence was withheld. That is a fact at this point. That was the whole point of Tucker releasing the video cause this has always been a political witch hunt to get Trump and Maga crowd.

Whether or not you think that is important says all we need to know about you.

Again, we don't know that it was withheld but let's say that it was.

The kid said he made mistakes and plead guilty. He knew that he broke the law.

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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It's possible but that isn't a government conspiracy.

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Dont wiggle out of this one. You said he was guilty of the crimes he plead to.

You're wrong. Either the DOJ committed a Brady violation or his council was ineffective. Those are the only two options. In both cases, his civil rights were violated.

Both are cases where he should be exonerated.

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No, he said he was guilty of the crime he was accused of.

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His lawyer, who in your own opinion was too stupid to ask for every second of video that the DOJ had, convinced him to sign a plea deal. Oh, he also reached out and said that he would represent him pro bono.

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It's possible but that isn't a government conspiracy.

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Dont wiggle out of this one. You said he was guilty of the crimes he plead to.

You're wrong. Either the DOJ committed a Brady violation or his council was ineffective. Those are the only two options. In both cases, his civil rights were violated.

Both are cases where he should be exonerated.

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No, he said he was guilty of the crime he was accused of.

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People enter pleas to get better sentences when the state withholds exculpatory evidence. Shocker. You should stop digging. Your ass is on full display

So he lied when he talked to the judge?

Again, why didn't the kid use his knowledge of the events to clear himself?