Is this really happening?
That was 7 years ago?

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Perjury and losing his ability to practice law is slightly different than civil dispute over an NDA

To me, this is stupid to indict him over this. Unfortunately, if a law was broken, no matter how stupid of a law it is, or who it's being applied to, it's still a law and gives them the right to do what is being done.

Again, to see this happening over a porn star he paid to sleep with while he was married is not the best of reasons to go after anyone, but it seems like it is justifiable in the eyes of the law.

I have seen some democrats absolutely giddy about this. I don' think they've thought it through. When you are slimy, dishonest and downright criminal as democrats are I would want to maintain the status quo. The republicans are just as slimy but maybe this wakes a small number of them up.

He was impeached TWICE and had his private residence raided. Why would you think they would stop there? After this, they will find the next fallacy…

The dims should review the Law of Unintended Consequences.

If they arrest Trump, they will live to regret it.

The deep state is scared of him.

It means it's getting close to the return.
Desperate situations require desperate measures

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Is this really happening?
That was 7 years ago?

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The time frame is irrelevant. What is in question is if campaign money was involved. That's where it goes from a misdemeanor to a felony.

Opalka said:

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GenericAggie said:

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Is this really happening?
That was 7 years ago?

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The time frame is irrelevant. What is in question is if campaign money was involved. That's where it goes from a misdemeanor to a felony.

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The Hussein campaign was fined for hiding donors and donations much larger than $130,000.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/01/07/obama-campaign-fined-big-for-hiding-donors-keeping-illegal-donations

There is no felony, and there is no precedence for a criminal indictment.

Can we not just go ahead and convict him and sentence him to prison for life, so we can get back to ignoring all the other instances of perjury, etc.?

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GenericAggie said:

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Is this really happening?
That was 7 years ago?

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The time frame is irrelevant. What is in question is if campaign money was involved. That's where it goes from a misdemeanor to a felony.

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The time frame is irrelevant? There's a statute of limitations of 2 years on the alleged crime that they're going to charge him with. It's never been done.

It's also unprecedented to charge a former potus.

It's also unprecedented to charge this alleged campaign finance violation at the state level.

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To me, this is stupid to indict him over this. Unfortunately, if a law was broken, no matter how stupid of a law it is, or who it's being applied to, it's still a law and gives them the right to do what is being done.

Again, to see this happening over a porn star he paid to sleep with while he was married is not the best of reasons to go after anyone, but it seems like it is justifiable in the eyes of the law.

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"The laws the law when it's a Republican so that Jaywalking must be prosecuted to the fullest extent! But when it's my glorious Dem party any crime can be ignored no matter how heinous!"

Trump slowed down the $$ flow to the crony banking / businesses. Trump stood in the way and still poses a threat if reelected to their fiscal shenanigans which is a house of cards being propped up by the central banks via bailouts and other CE. This is why and the main reason why he was ever and still is targeted by everyone in govt.

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Opalka said:

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GenericAggie said:

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Is this really happening?
That was 7 years ago?

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The time frame is irrelevant. What is in question is if campaign money was involved. That's where it goes from a misdemeanor to a felony.

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The time frame is irrelevant? There's a statute of limitations of 2 years on the alleged crime that they're going to charge him with. It's never been done.

It's also unprecedented to charge a former potus.

It's also unprecedented to charge this alleged campaign finance violation at the state level.

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This

It's painfully obvious they're willing to break any rule to get a jaywalking indictment

Did the sloot payoff happen in New York? I'm still trying to piece together why this DA has such a hard-on for this case in his jurisdiction.

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Did the sloot payoff happen in New York? I'm still trying to piece together why this DA has such a hard-on for this case in his jurisdiction.

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It's like the Showtime series Billions but in real life.

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To me, this is stupid to indict him over this. Unfortunately, if a law was broken, no matter how stupid of a law it is, or who it's being applied to, it's still a law and gives them the right to do what is being done.

Again, to see this happening over a porn star he paid to sleep with while he was married is not the best of reasons to go after anyone, but it seems like it is justifiable in the eyes of the law.

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If we were going after politicians that broke a law, they'd all be in prison

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No Spin Ag said:

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To me, this is stupid to indict him over this. Unfortunately, if a law was broken, no matter how stupid of a law it is, or who it's being applied to, it's still a law and gives them the right to do what is being done.

Again, to see this happening over a porn star he paid to sleep with while he was married is not the best of reasons to go after anyone, but it seems like it is justifiable in the eyes of the law.

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If we were going after politicians that broke a law, they'd all be in prison

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The country would be better if they were.

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It is being alleged that campaign funds were used to fund the NDA.

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ACTHUALLLLLYYYY.

there is no allegation he used campaign funds.

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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We indicted another lying about a mouth hug that had no bearing on the actual case.

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Perjury is a crime. Sadly, the left doesn't even care.

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I do care
Just didn't think it was impeachment worthy.


And I never thought Trump should have been impeached either. Before that comes up

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You would be fired at every company in the nation for doing what Clinton did with an intern. It's pretty much the worst thing you can do, at least according to all of the mandatory sexual harassment training I've been forced to sit through over the years.

That being said, he wasn't impeached for the degeneracy he engaged in.

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You get fired for that even back in the 1990s.

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Tanya 93 said:

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We indicted another lying about a mouth hug that had no bearing on the actual case.

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At least that one was while he was president!

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And actually lied under oath about it.

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We indicted another lying about a mouth hug that had no bearing on the actual case.

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Perjury is a crime. Sadly, the left doesn't even care.

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I do care
Just didn't think it was impeachment worthy.


And I never thought Trump should have been impeached either. Before that comes up

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You would be fired at every company in the nation for doing what Clinton did with an intern. It's pretty much the worst thing you can do, at least according to all of the mandatory sexual harassment training I've been forced to sit through over the years.

That being said, he wasn't impeached for the degeneracy he engaged in.

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THANK YOU! So annoyed that this tidbit always gets closed over.

Timeline: The probe into Trump's alleged hush money payments to Stormy Daniels Shawna Chen Shawna Chen
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• February 2018: Cohen releases a statement saying he did make the payment to Daniels but was not reimbursed for it and that the Trump campaign was not in the loop. "The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone," he said

Then 6 months later

• August 2018: Cohen pleads guilty to eight charges of tax evasion, fraud and campaign finance violations in connection to his payments to Daniels and McDougal, which the Department of Justice called an attempt "to influence the 2016 presidential election."
• During his guilty plea, Cohen says in federal court he was directed to violate campaign law at the direction of an unnamed candidate. That same candidate directed him to pay $130,000 in hush money, which the candidate later reimbursed.
• He is sentenced to three years in prison.

So Cohen's story changed from Fed. to Aug. Which story is true, considering Cohen is now a known liar. This is a Federal case so what in the hell is the state of New York doing.

The Feds dropped the case, I wonder why. Could be they know Cohen is a liar.

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We indicted another lying about a mouth hug that had no bearing on the actual case.

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Perjury is a crime. Sadly, the left doesn't even care.

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What Trump did was a crime as well, sadly, the right doesn't even care.

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Debatable.

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His lawyer went to jail for it already.

There is no debate.

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You are incorrect. Micheal Cohen did not go to jail over the Stormy Daniels case.

Previous DA looked into this very thing and came back with a very tenuous, at best, legal method of pursuing this and said "Nope!".

This moron said "Hold my martini, and check this silly **** out!". Idiot.

The delusional communist democrats are gonna be disappointed yet again. More smoke and mirrors. More flinging of **** against the wall to desperately get something to stick against Teflon Don. They are desperate, his crusade against the swamp is close to exposing them all. The rats lefts floating on logs and debris are clinging on for dear life.

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The "standard" has already been set for a long, long time.

I keep thinking about the Mar A Lago document raid, and then subsequent larger findings in Biden's garage. How stupid are these people to think the R's won't go scorched Earth with Joe/Hunter after this presidency?

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Trump entered into an NDA. That is not a crime.

It is being alleged that campaign funds were used to fund the NDA. That is yet to be proven.

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From what I have read/heard is that the money actually came from the Trump Corporation, so it was not from actual campaign funds.

The NY AG is saying that it was entered into the Trump Corp Books as a "Legal Expense" and that it is a Records Violation which apparently is a misdemeanor in NY State. Personally I would think that paying a lawyer (Cohen) to create and get signed an NDA and to also handoff an agreed amount for the signed NDA would fall under the category of "Legal Expense".

The NY AG is then saying that committing the misdemeanor in fact facilitated the commission of a Federal Felony of a illegal campaign contribution.

Also, all this happened about 6 years ago and these violations have a 2-3 year statute of limitations.

Does anybody actually think that this actually flies in any objective court of law ? ??

This is how I understand it. Legal Beagles correct me if I am wrong.

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Trump entered into an NDA. That is not a crime.

It is being alleged that campaign funds were used to fund the NDA. That is yet to be proven.

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From what I have read/heard is that the money actually came from the Trump Corporation, so it was not from actual campaign funds.

The NY AG is saying that it was entered into the Trump Corp Books as a "Legal Expense" and that it is a Records Violation which apparently is a misdemeanor in NY State. Personally I would think that paying a lawyer (Cohen) to create and get signed an NDA and to also handoff an agreed amount for the signed NDA would fall under the category of "Legal Expense".

The NY AG is then saying that committing the misdemeanor in fact facilitated the commission of a Federal Felony of a illegal campaign contribution.

Also, all this happened about 6 years ago and these violations have a 2-3 year statute of limitations.

Does anybody actually think that this actually flies in any objective court of law ? ??

This is how I understand it. Legal Beagles correct me if I am wrong.

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The legal gymnastics required to make this a felony are a complete joke

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The delusional communist democrats are gonna be disappointed yet again. More smoke and mirrors. More flinging of **** against the wall to desperately get something to stick against Teflon Don. They are desperate, his crusade against the swamp is close to exposing them all. The rats lefts floating on logs and debris are clinging on for dear life.

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They don't care about the outcome, they just want a mugshot, perp walk, show trial, etc.