When you get your first fake email job but think people there actually work. pic.twitter.com/3Sbp1F5gyf

— Adrian Georges (@BasedMaterialsm) March 8, 2023

This working class woman who moved into an office job now realizes that outside of engineers and business development, most people do basically nothing in an office.

I work corporate as an engineer and frankly most of my job is trying to figure out ways to be more efficient so I have more time to **** around. Why? Because as this lady realized, office jobs bring you virtually zero satisfaction. Nothing like what building or making something with your hands. Humans were not designed to sit in front of a computer all of the time.

I am paid well because of my technical expertise not because my job is harder or more difficult than a working class job.

This woman has just realized what many of us have known for a while, you could eliminate 80% of most office jobs and the rest of the company, aka the people who do the actual work, would never even notice.

It really is. And good luck trying to fire any of them for poor work or non productivity.

There are entire bureaucracies dedicated to manufacturing busy work and distractions to make themselves seem necessary. Many of them have educations from colleges of liberal arts.

The company I work at recently went through a few years of significant downsizing. I now do the job of two previous people, and if things get crazy or there's a project requiring special expertise, I have free reign to hire consultants. The savings across the company have been massive.

So she's now crossed to the dark side getting paid to do nothing all day, and she's upset about it?

jagvocate said:

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The company I work at recently went through a few years of significant downsizing. I now do the job of two previous people, and if things get crazy or there's a project requiring special expertise, I have free reign to hire consultants. The savings across the company have been massive.

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Consultants are way more expensive than employees

Aaaaamen!

When I worked for the mega corporation all I ever heard was why we couldn't be cheaper bc of our overhead. Why we couldn't do this bc we didn't make enough money. Why my bonus was $2000 that last year when I sold $101m dollars for my company.

It's higher than 80%. More like 90% of people don't do *****

We run the same operation now with 3 guys minus our field crews. I find the work, the other 2 estimate and manage it. Before there was a Estimating Manager, Estimatoes, Proposal Coordinator, Commercial Manager, Commercial analyst, area manager, regional manager, VP of dept, director of dept, project manager, assistant PM, BD Manager, BD Director, VP of BD, BD analyst.. on and on and on… I could
Continue with this worthless positions.

I remember on one of my last days they are having this BD meeting to talk about how we were going to capture the inc oil boom. There are 25+ in this room, all of them BD. One of these worthless SVPs called me beforehand to ask me if we had blue collar workers and if we actually performed construction instead of construction management. He was an SVP in my department… let that sink in..
Me and 2 others were the only 3 that ever talked to clients and found work. The others were VPs, SVPs, and support staff… for what? The 3 of us talked about it afterwards and 2 of us were gone within a couple weeks.

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jagvocate said:

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The company I work at recently went through a few years of significant downsizing. I now do the job of two previous people, and if things get crazy or there's a project requiring special expertise, I have free reign to hire consultants. The savings across the company have been massive.

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Consultants are way more expensive than employees

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But they get no benefits, no relocation expenses, and no severance when their gig is up in a few months.

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jagvocate said:

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The company I work at recently went through a few years of significant downsizing. I now do the job of two previous people, and if things get crazy or there's a project requiring special expertise, I have free reign to hire consultants. The savings across the company have been massive.

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Consultants are way more expensive than employees

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https://quoteinvestigator.com/2020/01/15/pay/

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A business exec told me that he thinks of consulting firms a bit like Charlie Sheen thinks about prostitutes. When I asked him to explain, he said that when Sheen was being sentenced for using a prostitute, the judge asked him why a man like him would have to pay for sex. And Sheen reportedly replied: "I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave." The exec went on to explain that he prefers hiring business consulting firms that also do their jobs and then leave.

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jagvocate said:

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The company I work at recently went through a few years of significant downsizing. I now do the job of two previous people, and if things get crazy or there's a project requiring special expertise, I have free reign to hire consultants. The savings across the company have been massive.

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Consultants are way more expensive than employees

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https://quoteinvestigator.com/2020/01/15/pay/

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A business exec told me that he thinks of consulting firms a bit like Charlie Sheen thinks about prostitutes. When I asked him to explain, he said that when Sheen was being sentenced for using a prostitute, the judge asked him why a man like him would have to pay for sex. And Sheen reportedly replied: "I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave." The exec went on to explain that he prefers hiring business consulting firms that also do their jobs and then leave.

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That's funny, the engineering consultants at my company never leave. They've worked there longer than I have. We tried to hire them but they get paid better being consultants.

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The company I work at recently went through a few years of significant downsizing. I now do the job of two previous people, and if things get crazy or there's a project requiring special expertise, I have free reign to hire consultants. The savings across the company have been massive.

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I do the job of 3 people now. I'm basically the sole reason my group has less people. It's not even hard and I still have a lot of free time. I have no idea what the hell these people were doing previously.

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So she's now crossed to the dark side getting paid to do nothing all day, and she's upset about it?

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She's upset that she was sold a lie that office work is meaningful and that people work hard as hell the more they move up. She's pissed because she felt she provided value to people in her old job and now she gets nothing out of what she does now.

This is essentially a form of imposter syndrome.

For fun, let it roll past the 1:12 mark a few seconds, then click at 1:12 repeatedly, rapidly, and varying tempo. Its like a disco mix of despair. With video.

I am fairly sure that many jobs at A&M were created to keep someone's spouse (or diversity hire) gainfully employed.

They were doing nothing…

I could elaborate but I promise you they did nothing. You could do nothing to if you speak with authority like you're the subject matter expert bc those you're speaking to most likely don't have a clue either and if you'll take the lead role they will follow and you'll see promotions and everything else while doing less. It's an awful feeling but if you can put away your conscience then you'll rise thru the ranks.

This is the best description of the phenomenon https://libcom.org/article/phenomenon-bull****-jobs-david-graeber

10% do 90% of the work.

Learn that principle.

Stop complaining and move forward.

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They were doing nothing…

I could elaborate but I promise you they did nothing. You could do nothing to if you speak with authority like you're the subject matter expert bc those you're speaking to most likely don't have a clue either and if you'll take the lead role they will follow and you'll see promotions and everything else while doing less. It's an awful feeling but if you can put away your conscience then you'll rise thru the ranks.

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I have figured out that it was obvious they were doing nothing. And yes I agree about the rest as well. The primary way to raise through the ranks is to self advocate and act like a technical expert. No one actually cares about much of anything else.

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10% do 90% of the work.

Learn that principle.

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same with paying taxes

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I am fairly sure that many jobs at A&M were created to keep someone's spouse (or diversity hire) gainfully employed.

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Like, I don't know, maybe a former provost?

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10% do 90% of the work.

Learn that principle.

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Always has been this way. It's why I hate most of the people in corporate.

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There are entire bureaucracies dedicated to manufacturing busy work and distractions to make themselves seem necessary. Many of them have educations from colleges of liberal arts.

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Professional useless people.

There are many days where I feel like my job is pointless. I'm in middle-management which is Dilbert land. I understand this lady's meltdown. But I try to focus on the human element of the job, I like helping my coworkers and my direct reports. That is meaningful to me even if it doesn't effect the bottom line of the company.

In order to get promoted at my company, you have to build empires. Convince leadership of a need and then create a business justification to hire employees under you.

A few years later you have a team of employees and nobody checks to see if that justification still exists, so you just create work for those employees.

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jagvocate said:

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The company I work at recently went through a few years of significant downsizing. I now do the job of two previous people, and if things get crazy or there's a project requiring special expertise, I have free reign to hire consultants. The savings across the company have been massive.

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Consultants are way more expensive than employees

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Per hour yes, per job and per year no. I also get more done in 3 hours than most do in a week. There's a reason I charge $250+ per hour, because it's worth it

And then they ***** that their do nothing office job doesn't pay them enough to do nothing

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When you get your first fake email job but think people there actually work. pic.twitter.com/3Sbp1F5gyf

— Adrian Georges (@BasedMaterialsm) March 8, 2023

This working class woman who moved into an office job now realizes that outside of engineers and business development, most people do basically nothing in an office.

I work corporate as an engineer and frankly most of my job is trying to figure out ways to be more efficient so I have more time to **** around. Why? Because as this lady realized, office jobs bring you virtually zero satisfaction. Nothing like what building or making something with your hands. Humans were not designed to sit in front of a computer all of the time.

I am paid well because of my technical expertise not because my job is harder or more difficult than a working class job.

This woman has just realized what many of us have known for a while, you could eliminate 80% of most office jobs and the rest of the company, aka the people who do the actual work, would never even notice.

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Preach brother.

Tried the corporate thing after the Army and quit after just 2 months of soul sucking drudgery where you never felt like you accomplished anything

The switch to HC was a great decision. The job can be brutal sometimes but you also get the satisfaction of genuinely helping people and making their lives better

Would never go back to Corporate America

Yes, and no one checks because by the time you get it off the ground the people that approved it have been rotated out and you get a new group at the top that just go along for a little while with the way things were before they implement their new ideas.... the trick is to win them to your side prior to them getting handsy and then you get to continue your sham for another iteration...

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Wow, lol.
I don't know where you or she work, however I have worked for Fortune 500 companies and small companies and, while there are some jobs that are filled with idle time, the vast majority are not and people need to work to meet their metrics. You and she are in need of better management.

I get there are jobs like that out there but this video is nonsense. The Reddit mob gets all up in arms acting like non hourly jobs are a cake walk. They create this alternate reality of how unfair the world is (because they all work these hourly jobs and then go post on r/antiwork).

All I know is I spend most of my days stressed out of my mind and never feel like I can get to everything I need to do.

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Wow, lol.
I don't know where you or she work, however I have worked for Fortune 500 companies and small companies and, while there are some jobs that are filled with idle time, the vast majority are not and people need to work to meet their metrics. You and she are in need of better management.

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Sounds like they need to staff a whole department of people who come up with metrics.

Arbitrary metrics that a monkey could fabricate if they wanted to look good while still not doing anything. Been there, pointed it out and explained what would happen, watched it happen and jumped on the bandwagon... because why would i bust my ass to hit these extremely lofty goals while my colleague works around it and gets praised but never actually lands a job.

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engineers and business development

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Wow, lol.
I don't know where you or she work, however I have worked for Fortune 500 companies and small companies and, while there are some jobs that are filled with idle time, the vast majority are not and people need to work to meet their metrics. You and she are in need of better management.

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I've worked a few jobs in corporate and they are all the same. Most people don't do ***** If you're not an engineer, part of Operations, in IT, or part of business development, your job mostly isn't needed. The other groups are why companies are moving back to the office. They figured out these people did nothing at home and now managers are trying to justify their jobs again.

I'd guess the average office worker does 20 hrs a week of work. Less in some industries. Look at Twitter after reducing their staff by 90%