Daylight Saving Time up for debate again

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7:40p, 3/2/23
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https://thehill.com/homenews/nexstar_media_wire/3880009-bill-to-make-daylight-saving-time-permanent-reintroduced-in-congress/amp/

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Senator Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), who introduced the Sunshine Protection Act last year, filed a bill on Wednesday that would make daylight saving time permanent. So far, the bill, the Sunshine Protection Act of 2023, has bipartisan support in the Senate, and has been referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation.

"This ritual of changing time twice a year is stupid," Rubio said in a statement Thursday morning. "Locking the clock has overwhelming bipartisan and popular support. This Congress, I hope that we can finally get this done."


Agreed. It's stupid. Leave the clocks alone.
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7:42p, 3/2/23
ban standard time.

everywhere.
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7:46p, 3/2/23
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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7:47p, 3/2/23
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Of all the issues we need to address, we get this?

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In reply to JohnLA762 • 7:50p, 3/2/23
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JohnLA762 said:
Of all the issues we need to address, we get this?



Hey, attitudes like that are why we still change the clocks twice a year.
I think that, to be very honest with you, I do believe that we should have rightly believed, but we certainly believe that certain issues are just settled.

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7:51p, 3/2/23
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This would make DST permanent

I am all for it if it shuts the spring forward crybabies the hell up
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In reply to techno-ag • 7:54p, 3/2/23
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techno-ag said:
JohnLA762 said:
Of all the issues we need to address, we get this?



Hey, attitudes like that are why we still change the clocks twice a year.


FINE! But only if we make everyone be CST, damnit!
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7:55p, 3/2/23
If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.
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In reply to Chad Cunningham • 8:02p, 3/2/23
Chad Cunningham said:
If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.

Don't move north then. Even with DST it doesn't rise until after 9a in the winter.
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In reply to Chad Cunningham • 8:03p, 3/2/23
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If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.


You probably like cold showers, pineapple on pizza and Pepsi also.
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In reply to Chad Cunningham • 8:08p, 3/2/23
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Chad Cunningham said:
If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.
I can drive to work in the dark.

DST means I have more sunlight AFTER work when I can actually DO things...
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In reply to Chad Cunningham • 8:09p, 3/2/23
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Chad Cunningham said:
If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.
Ding ding. This is why permanent daylight savings will never get implemented.
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In reply to Ag with kids • 8:11p, 3/2/23
Ag with kids said:
Chad Cunningham said:
If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.
I can drive to work in the dark.

DST means I have more sunlight AFTER work when I can actually DO things...
this.

plus people spend most of the AM glued to their cell phones and do not even notice the sun or darkness.
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8:12p, 3/2/23
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In Texas it is a mere personal preference. Do you prefer solar noon to happen at noon or 1pm. Doesn't really matter at the end of the day.

But it's the populated northeast and their schoolkids going to and coming home from school with some daylight that makes daylight time during the winter unworkable.
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8:12p, 3/2/23
I thought they already made DST permanent starting this year?
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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8:13p, 3/2/23
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Standard time
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In reply to Rapier108 • 8:13p, 3/2/23
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Rapier108 said:
I thought they already made DST permanent starting this year?
It's standard time right now bro. 12:00 noon is when the sun is directly overhead.
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In reply to Rapier108 • 8:15p, 3/2/23
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I thought they already made DST permanent starting this year?
Senate - yes.

House did not vote so it died.
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In reply to Serotonin • 8:16p, 3/2/23
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Serotonin said:
In Texas it is a mere personal preference. Do you prefer solar noon to happen at noon or 1pm. Doesn't really matter at the end of the day.

But it's the populated northeast and their schoolkids going to and coming home from school with some daylight that makes daylight time during the winter unworkable.
Why would I care about noon?

I care about AFTER WORK when I have more time to do things with daylight.
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8:20p, 3/2/23
Sunset in New York City on December 21 was 430 in the afternoon.

That's terrible.
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In reply to Chad Cunningham • 8:23p, 3/2/23
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Chad Cunningham said:
If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.
What if I told you…the sun would rise at the same time no mater how we set our clocks?
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8:25p, 3/2/23
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Yawn
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In reply to TheCurl84 • 8:27p, 3/2/23
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Yawn
^

see. this is what happens under ST and the early nighttimes in winter..



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In reply to C@LAg • 8:30p, 3/2/23
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In reply to Ag with kids • 8:39p, 3/2/23
Ag with kids said:
Chad Cunningham said:
If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.
I can drive to work in the dark.

DST means I have more sunlight AFTER work when I can actually DO things...
Your username clearly doesn't check out unless you are a typical "me me me" boomer with grown kids.... The sun should be up before school begins. They need more sleep than you do.
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8:41p, 3/2/23
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Complaining about this over a week early this time.
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In reply to Chad Cunningham • 8:43p, 3/2/23
Chad Cunningham said:
Ag with kids said:
Chad Cunningham said:
If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.
I can drive to work in the dark.

DST means I have more sunlight AFTER work when I can actually DO things...
Your username clearly doesn't check out unless you are a typical "me me me" boomer with grown kids.... The sun should be up before school begins. They need more sleep than you do.
ridiculous.

they somehow manage half the year.

and have their noses buried in their cell phones the rest of the time.

people adapt to the changes when they occur. they cam adapt to this permanently as well.
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In reply to Chad Cunningham • 8:47p, 3/2/23
Chad Cunningham said:
Ag with kids said:
Chad Cunningham said:
If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.
I can drive to work in the dark.

DST means I have more sunlight AFTER work when I can actually DO things...
Your username clearly doesn't check out unless you are a typical "me me me" boomer with grown kids.... The sun should be up before school begins. They need more sleep than you do.

So does that mean for the kids above the Arctic circle that they don't go to school for months in a row?

I also don't understand how DST affects the number of hours of sleep. I sent my kids to bed at the same time before and after DST and woke them up at the same time in the morning.
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In reply to Kansas Kid • 8:48p, 3/2/23
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I also don't understand how DST affects the number of hours of sleep. I sent my kids to bed at the same time before and after DST and woke them up at the same time in the morning.
it was an absolutely dumb argument point

as if people cannot adjust and as if curtains do not exist.
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In reply to Chad Cunningham • 8:54p, 3/2/23
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Chad Cunningham said:
Ag with kids said:
Chad Cunningham said:
If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.
I can drive to work in the dark.

DST means I have more sunlight AFTER work when I can actually DO things...
Your username clearly doesn't check out unless you are a typical "me me me" boomer with grown kids.... The sun should be up before school begins. They need more sleep than you do.
There are Gen X with grown kids...

And wtf does needing more sleep have to do with whether or not the sun is up or not? Make them ****ing go to sleep earlier. Or are you a ****ty parent that allows them to dictate their bedtime?

My kids met the bus in the dark for years. In Texas. Bus picked them up at 0600. We lived in the sticks and my kids were the second stop for the bus driver (who lived down the road from us).

Oh no. However did my little snowflakes survive that?????
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In reply to Kansas Kid • 8:55p, 3/2/23
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Kansas Kid said:
Chad Cunningham said:
Ag with kids said:
Chad Cunningham said:
If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.
I can drive to work in the dark.

DST means I have more sunlight AFTER work when I can actually DO things...
Your username clearly doesn't check out unless you are a typical "me me me" boomer with grown kids.... The sun should be up before school begins. They need more sleep than you do.

So does that mean for the kids above the Arctic circle that they don't go to school for months in a row?

I also don't understand how DST affects the number of hours of sleep. I sent my kids to bed at the same time before and after DST and woke them up at the same time in the morning.
Yes. Those kids do not get any sleep for 6 months out of the year.
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In reply to BMX Bandit • 9:07p, 3/2/23
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BMX Bandit said:
Chad Cunningham said:
If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.


You probably like cold showers, pineapple on pizza and Pepsi also.


Cold showers: bad
Pineapple on pizza: awesome!
Pepsi: bad
"A is A”
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In reply to Chad Cunningham • 10:07p, 3/2/23
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Chad Cunningham said:
If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.


Don't even care, not even a little.
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In reply to Chad Cunningham • 10:22p, 3/2/23
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Chad Cunningham said:
If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.

I don't know where you live, but the latest the sun rose in the DFW area was 7:30am in mid January.

In Cleveland, the latest is 7:53am around the same time. In NYC, its around 7:20am the first week of January.

Where in the hell is it anywhere near 9:00?
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In reply to Chad Cunningham • 10:27p, 3/2/23
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Chad Cunningham said:
If there is a permanent time it must be standard time... If you made DST permanent you would have the sun not rising til 9 in the winter.


So what? And it might be around 0730, 0745 at the latest. Nowhere near 9.

You know what is also awesome? Having daylight in the afrernoon when you get back home from work. Wasting sunlight driving to the office and then getting home at dark is dumb.

Amazing how easily i was able to cope with no clock changes when i lived in AZ.

I bet you could also cope as well.
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