Alex Murdaugh Trial Day 25-Defense Closing Argument-State's rebuttal argument

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aggiehawg
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Mornin' folks. The three week trial is finally ending after six weeks. Over four hours of state's closing yesterday with a few missteps besides boring the jury to death with the minute details of financial crimes. State actualy argued that Murdaugh (or someone else) as a single shooter with two weapons was "just as likely" as there being multiple shooters.

That is called reasonable doubt that even the prosecution cannot dismiss. But after all of the rabbit holes that the state has gone down about hog hunting tactics, crappy financial controls of the law firm and AM's preferred Palmetto State Bank, badges, blue lights in a former vehicle AM drove, the raise to wake feature on Iphones being randomly tossed around an office on a Sunday afternoon and other extraneous horse puckey, the defense will take about 2 or so hours to make the case for defense, heavy emphasis on reasonable doubt as the state has not been able to place the guns in Alex's hands that night.

I think it will be AM's close friend, Griffin making the argument. Then state has the right to rebuttal and we will see if Waters drones on some more and for how long before the judge gives instructions and the jury gets the case.

Emily


Joe is streaming too
AustinCountyAg
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uh oh. here we go already
Wabs
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No ballistics match
Even prosecutors admit there could have been 1 or 2 shooters
Weak motive

Etc, etc. - plenty of room for doubt in this case.
aggiehawg
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Judge is on the bench. Have a juror issue! That email stuff from the sidebar yesterday?
Wabs
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So what's the deal? Juror emailing someone from sled??
aggiehawg
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Judge is booting the juror for misconduct. Improper contact. But interview by a SLED agent who was a witness in the case.
Aggie95
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Judge orders juror to be removed
Wabs
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They're going to bring out the juror that ****ed up?
aggiehawg
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A little public shaming happening now.
Wabs
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This is weird
Wabs
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aggiehawg
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Wabs said:

This is weird
It is. Normally that happens outside of court. She left a dozen eggs? Her purse?

Who else did SLED talk to on the jury?
Tony Franklins Other Shoe
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More proof that having to trust a jury to rule on your fate is just a very bad position to be in. People suck.

Person Not Capable of Pregnancy
redcrayon
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The South is great. Another juror brought everyone eggs.
aggiehawg
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Judge forgets to select an alternate until Harpootlian reminds him.
redcrayon
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SLED interviewed the juror about her talking outside of court?
aggiehawg
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Down to one alternate left. If one of the jurors gets sick during deliberations, they have to start over with deliberations.
MsDoubleD81
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Probably replaced with one one with a blanket over her head and tissue in her ears
aggiehawg
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redcrayon said:

SLED interviewed the juror about her talking outside of court?
Apparently so. Someone else narced on the juror and SLED gets involved instead of the Sheriff's office responsible for court business. To make it worse, SLED sends an agent who actually was a witness in the case.

Oy vey!
redcrayon
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aggiehawg said:

redcrayon said:

SLED interviewed the juror about her talking outside of court?
Apparently so. Someone else narced on the juror and SLED gets involved instead of the Sheriff's office responsible for court business. To make it worse, SLED sends an agent who actually was a witness in the case.

Oy vey!
Wow.
redcrayon
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MsDoubleD81 said:

Probably replaced with one one with a blanket over her head and tissue in her ears
What??
MsDoubleD81
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On multiple discussion boards, there is an alternate juror who has a blanket over her head and at one point was putting tissue in her ears.
aggiehawg
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MsDoubleD81 said:

On multiple discussion boards, there is an alternate juror who has a blanket over her head and at one point was putting tissue in her ears.
That is what is wrong with the system in SC. The alternates are told they are alternates right off of the bat. They tune out and don't listen.
redcrayon
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MsDoubleD81 said:

On multiple discussion boards, there is an alternate juror who has a blanket over her head and at one point was putting tissue in her ears.
Why would the judge not dismiss her upon seeing this?
AustinCountyAg
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I mean, it's common sense not to tell the jurors who's alternates. WTF
aggiehawg
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AustinCountyAg said:

I mean, it's common sense not to tell the jurors who's alternates. WTF
And no exclusionary rule for witnesses. Blows my mind when a witness on the stand testifies to explain what another witness said on the stand.

We are talking Salem Witch Trial type of stuff.
aggiehawg
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Going through all of the bad stuff SLED did and did not do during the investigation.

Search warrant via fax? First I have heard of that.
aggiehawg
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The failure of SLED to secure Maggie's phone is huge. That alone would give any honest prosecutor pause before bringing this case. Akin to failure to give a Miranda warning for an interrogation under detention.
aggiehawg
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Accusing SLED of fabricating evidence?
aggiehawg
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I made the point earlier that chain of custody requirements make it near impossible for the Lead Investigator to not know about the negative results of the Hema Trace tests.
jrdaustin
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Haven't paid a whole lot of attention to this case as I'm busy at work, but what little I've seen, SLED is no NCIS. Their investigatory processes were VERY suspect, and as has been alluded to, it appears they felt they "had their guy" on Day 1, and possibly missed multiple areas of evidence that could have been exculpatory - simply because they didn't look.

As a result, a shoddy investigation with multiple holes that a Mack truck could be driven through.

Couple that with a prosecutor who somehow believes evidence of financial crimes and the fact that Alex is a lying D-bag somehow proves that he's a killer, and it looks like this whole trial was a circus.

I don't know whether or not Alex pulled the trigger, contracted a hit, or had nothing to do with the killings. He may be guilty, but the State sure hasn't met their burden, imo.
aggiehawg
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I don't know whether or not Alex pulled the trigger, contracted a hit, or had nothing to do with the killings. He may be guilty, but the State sure hasn't met their burden, imo.
He's a POS no doubt but the prosecution has no case that he killed his wife and son. They had to repeatedly lie to the grand jury to even get the indictment.
redcrayon
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People who believe AM is guility will justify the terrible police work. But the scary part is that bad police work can and does convict innocent people. That should scare everyone.
Wabs
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Getting to the very weak motive now
aggiehawg
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Griffin really sucks at this.
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