Death of Clinton aide officially ruled a suicide

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Gigem_94 said:

tk111 said:




His comment about Cosby was rather ironic (4:50 mark) "Bill Cosby is a great man. There has never been any accusations towards Bill Cosby about anything." Oops.


I think you misunderstood this segment….


His entire purpose was to troll the idiots the entire time by telling stories that went nowhere
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At least the Clintons are creative. In Russia, there is a rash of suicides due to a number of Putin's adversaries falling out of windows. This is A+ suiciding by the Clintons: shooting yourself with a nonexistent shotgun while hanging yourself from a tree.
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NPH- said:

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Clintons continuing to take people to the train station....
Except this Train Station has a tree, and not located in Wyoming.

There are "Train Stations" of the Clintons from coast to coast. At what point, if you had any info on the Clintons, to you not drop off grid? Off Grid you say? Well, it's safer than the law enforcement agencies can be. Just ask Jeffry Epstein.
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combat wombat said:

It certainly sounds suspicious. But I will say that the missing gun doesn't mean that he didn't commit suicide anyone could've taken the gun while passing by. Free gun!
Not exactly the gun I'd want laying around my house. Its proximity to a dead body is a definite turn off.
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How many times were they shot in the back? Asking for a friend.
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AgBQ-00 said:

So they were sitting in the tree with the noose around their neck, used the shotgun to blast themselves out of the tree to hang. Had the gun tied to a weather balloon so it floated away and Biden had it shot down over the great lakes. Checks out.
Not so fast my friend...

Remember the government calling off the search for the balloon over the Great Lakes a couple of days of "looking for it". Two days, and the search never breached the water's surface.

Just wanted to wrap that up for you. Much like Vince Foster in a carpet.
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Norm knew
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H2Ag said:

combat wombat said:

It certainly sounds suspicious. But I will say that the missing gun doesn't mean that he didn't commit suicide anyone could've taken the gun while passing by. Free gun!
Not exactly the gun I'd want laying around my house. Its proximity to a dead body is a definite turn off.
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FBI needs to raid the Clinton homes & brothels for the murder weapon
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Norm was the best. He didn't care what they thought! He was a legend
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Artimus Gordon said:

FBI needs to raid the Clinton homes & brothels for the murder weapon


Stop. You know they don't have it.
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AgBQ-00 said:

So they were sitting in the tree with the noose around their neck, used the shotgun to blast themselves out of the tree to hang. Had the gun tied to a weather balloon so it floated away and Biden had it shot down over the great lakes. Checks out.


Post Of The Week.
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AgBQ-00 said:

So they were sitting in the tree with the noose around their neck, used the shotgun to blast themselves out of the tree to hang. Had the gun tied to a weather balloon so it floated away and Biden had it shot down over the great lakes. Checks out.
Has to be what happened.
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This is another great example of why it's best to wait at least 48 hours before jumping to unfounded conclusions. A shotgun was found near the body, after all.

Shotgun discovered near body of former Clinton aide Mark Middleton: report (nypost.com)

That fact won't stop many from persisting in claiming that Middleton was murdered by the Clintons.
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Jabin said:

This is another great example of why it's best to wait at least 48 hours before jumping to unfounded conclusions. A shotgun was found near the body, after all.

Shotgun discovered near body of former Clinton aide Mark Middleton: report (nypost.com)

That fact won't stop many from persisting in claiming that Middleton was murdered by the Clintons.
The shotgun was 30 feet away? So how does he stand on a bench with an electrical cord around his neck, shoots himself and gun winds up going 30 feet?

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Jabin said:

This is another great example of why it's best to wait at least 48 hours before jumping to unfounded conclusions. A shotgun was found near the body, after all.

Shotgun discovered near body of former Clinton aide Mark Middleton: report (nypost.com)

That fact won't stop many from persisting in claiming that Middleton was murdered by the Clintons.
The shotgun was 30 feet away? So how does he stand on a bench with an electrical cord around his neck, shoots himself and gun winds up going 30 feet?
How high was he when he shot himself?

How far will an unrestrained 12 ga. travel upon firing?

What reaction did he undergo after shooting himself? Could he have involuntarily tossed the gun?

How did the gun land and could it have spun after landing?

Don't know the answers to those questions, but the original leap to the conclusion of murder was just a bit premature.
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Jabin said:

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Jabin said:

This is another great example of why it's best to wait at least 48 hours before jumping to unfounded conclusions. A shotgun was found near the body, after all.

Shotgun discovered near body of former Clinton aide Mark Middleton: report (nypost.com)

That fact won't stop many from persisting in claiming that Middleton was murdered by the Clintons.
The shotgun was 30 feet away? So how does he stand on a bench with an electrical cord around his neck, shoots himself and gun winds up going 30 feet?
How high was he when he shot himself?

How far will an unrestrained 12 ga. travel upon firing?

What reaction did he undergo after shooting himself? Could he have involuntarily tossed the gun?

How did the gun land and could it have spun after landing?

Don't know the answers to those questions, but the original leap to the conclusion of murder was just a bit premature.
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It isn't much of a "jumping to unfounded conclusion" when the original story (erroneously as it turns out) stated there was no gun at the scene. I would say that, given the story, foul play is a very rational conclusion and not unfounded at all. If you want to find fault, criticize the incompetent media and not the people that take the data given at face value.
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Jabin said:

This is another great example of why it's best to wait at least 48 hours before jumping to unfounded conclusions. A shotgun was found near the body, after all.

Shotgun discovered near body of former Clinton aide Mark Middleton: report (nypost.com)

That fact won't stop many from persisting in claiming that Middleton was murdered by the Clintons.


Why do you think that is? Think really hard...
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There's a 48 hour rule for a reason. Sorry that it interferes with y'all's desire to jump to conclusions before the dust has even settled.

Look, I despise the Clintons as much as any of you and believe that they may be the most evil, corrupt political couple in US history. But that doesn't mean that everyone that worked for them and dies was murdered by them.

Good grief.
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Decay said:

Norm knew
You have to wonder. That's pretty crazy and specific if not.
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Jabin said:

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Jabin said:

This is another great example of why it's best to wait at least 48 hours before jumping to unfounded conclusions. A shotgun was found near the body, after all.

Shotgun discovered near body of former Clinton aide Mark Middleton: report (nypost.com)

That fact won't stop many from persisting in claiming that Middleton was murdered by the Clintons.
The shotgun was 30 feet away? So how does he stand on a bench with an electrical cord around his neck, shoots himself and gun winds up going 30 feet?
How high was he when he shot himself?

How far will an unrestrained 12 ga. travel upon firing?

What reaction did he undergo after shooting himself? Could he have involuntarily tossed the gun?

How did the gun land and could it have spun after landing?

Don't know the answers to those questions, but the original leap to the conclusion of murder was just a bit premature.
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The 48 hour rule usually applies to incomplete or conflicting, unclear information, not so much about blatantly false information. The original OP was definitive and non-ambiguous about there being no weapon and it is reasonable for people to accept the statement given, and you are acting a little holier-than-though about this particular story especially one that has a lot of peculiarities. Why not just eat the barrel? Sure is a lot simpler than whatever he was supposedly trying to do.
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After reading the initial report, the thought never crossed your mind that it might be incomplete or erroneous? Even after reading that a shotgun case and buckshot were found in his car? Even after reading that he had a long history of depression? Do you place that much credibility on media reports, especially initial media reports published less than 48 hours after the event?
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Jabin said:

After reading the initial report, the thought never crossed your mind that it might be incomplete or erroneous? Even after reading that a shotgun case and buckshot were found in his car? Even after reading that he had a long history of depression? Do you place that much credibility on media reports, especially initial media reports published less than 48 hours after the event?


They believe that which they want to believe.

There was no shotgun!

The shotgun was too far away!

It will continue forever
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knoxtom said:

Jabin said:

After reading the initial report, the thought never crossed your mind that it might be incomplete or erroneous? Even after reading that a shotgun case and buckshot were found in his car? Even after reading that he had a long history of depression? Do you place that much credibility on media reports, especially initial media reports published less than 48 hours after the event?


They believe that which they want to believe.

There was no shotgun!

The shotgun was too far away!

It will continue forever
Whoa there, my contributions here were a Norm clip and reading an article and wondering why a shotgun would land 30 feet away from the body. Jabin and I are cool, I understand where he's coming from, I'd just like to consider some Mythbusters on how far a shotgun goes if you are the shooter and shootee. I have no idea on the dead guy's background, just found it interesting about this bouncing gun.

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Clinton Body Count keeps on climbing!

If I die of Clintoncide..... please know it was NOT suicide.
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

knoxtom said:

Jabin said:

After reading the initial report, the thought never crossed your mind that it might be incomplete or erroneous? Even after reading that a shotgun case and buckshot were found in his car? Even after reading that he had a long history of depression? Do you place that much credibility on media reports, especially initial media reports published less than 48 hours after the event?


They believe that which they want to believe.

There was no shotgun!

The shotgun was too far away!

It will continue forever
Whoa there, my contributions here were a Norm clip and reading an article and wondering why a shotgun would land 30 feet away from the body. Jabin and I are cool, I understand where he's coming from, I'd just like to consider some Mythbusters on how far a shotgun goes if you are the shooter and shootee. I have no idea on the dead guy's background, just found it interesting about this bouncing gun.
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The issue is that you characterized posters on this board as jumping to "unfounded conclusions", where in fact, there was reasonable speculation with the information given. As for me, I made no comment regarding any conclusion either way. I am merely saying you are out of bounds with your criticism of others given the report.

If you had your doubts, you could have just deferred to the 48-hour rule for yourself, but you didn't. You decided to insult others instead.
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I'm not going into details of the situation but I knew of a "suicide" where the victim had sliced both wrists open, was stabbed in the stomach multiple times, and had multiple blows with a heavy blunt object to the BACK of the head. Suicide my ass.

Maybe this person knew Clinton.


Edit: I will say the victim worked for utmb.
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tk111 said:


Love this one.

But the one where he says, "I have a lot of money" in response to "Why would any woman be attracted to you, who has only ever read 6 books?" will never be topped.
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knoxtom said:

Jabin said:

After reading the initial report, the thought never crossed your mind that it might be incomplete or erroneous? Even after reading that a shotgun case and buckshot were found in his car? Even after reading that he had a long history of depression? Do you place that much credibility on media reports, especially initial media reports published less than 48 hours after the event?


They believe that which they want to believe.

There was no shotgun!

The shotgun was too far away!

It will continue forever

If only someone could develop a science that could describe how every action has an equal and opposite reaction, then maybe we could figure this stuff out.

That being said, did they do any toxicology testing? Fair chance that an OD was the actual cause of death.
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