I'm sure they have their pronouns ironed out, though. After that, the only responsibility public schools have left is to hand out condoms and help transition the dysmorphic.

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American Public Media reporter Emily Hanford digs into a flawed theory that has shaped reading instruction for decades. The theory is that children can learn to read without learning how to sound out words, because there are other strategies they can use to figure out what the words say. Strategies like "look at the picture" or "think of a word that makes sense."

Research by cognitive scientists has demonstrated that readers need to know how to sound out words. But some teacher training programs still emphasize this debunked theory, including books and classroom materials that are popular around the world. Scientists say these strategies are teaching children the habits of struggling readers. Kids learn to skip letters and words and struggle to understand what they're reading.

For decades, the standard approach to teaching kids how to decipher, or "decode," text has rested on the assumption that it's not necessary to explicitly teach the vast majority of them how to connect sounds in words to the letters that represent them. Teachers may throw in some of that instruction, often called "phonics," but they're guided by their training and materials to encourage kids to guess at words, using context or pictures. Scientific evidence has clearly shown, however, that many if not most children will struggle to become fluent readers unless they get systematic instruction in phonics.

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Easily fixed by throwing buckets at money at.....

How many of the 35% are homeschooled?

The public education system is a huge waste of money

Dumb, uneducated, and brainwashed is how the leaders of the political left like their people.

I would love to see the reading level of students pre and post No Child Left Behind.

That is one of the major **** stains on public education.

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I would love to see the reading level of students pre and post No Child Left Behind.

That is one of the major **** stains on public education.

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How about the reading level since the Department of Education was created? Here is a hint, its bad

GeorgiAg said:

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How many of the 35% are homeschooled?

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I can vouch for 1 homeschooled first grader who is reading kids books already.

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I'm sure they have their pronouns ironed out, though. After that, the only responsibility public schools have left is to hand out condoms and help transition the dysmorphic.

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American Public Media reporter Emily Hanford digs into a flawed theory that has shaped reading instruction for decades. The theory is that children can learn to read without learning how to sound out words, because there are other strategies they can use to figure out what the words say. Strategies like "look at the picture" or "think of a word that makes sense."

Research by cognitive scientists has demonstrated that readers need to know how to sound out words. But some teacher training programs still emphasize this debunked theory, including books and classroom materials that are popular around the world. Scientists say these strategies are teaching children the habits of struggling readers. Kids learn to skip letters and words and struggle to understand what they're reading.

For decades, the standard approach to teaching kids how to decipher, or "decode," text has rested on the assumption that it's not necessary to explicitly teach the vast majority of them how to connect sounds in words to the letters that represent them. Teachers may throw in some of that instruction, often called "phonics," but they're guided by their training and materials to encourage kids to guess at words, using context or pictures. Scientific evidence has clearly shown, however, that many if not most children will struggle to become fluent readers unless they get systematic instruction in phonics.

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Yep. Throwing out phonics was brought to you by PhDs in education. Through the years I've always been amazed at the number of PhDs within local school districts who call the shots but have never really taught in a core subject classroom.

GeorgiAg said:

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How many of the 35% are homeschooled?

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I have a public school kindergartner that reads pretty well. The type of school doesn't matter quite as much as having two parents at home that make education a priority.

GeorgiAg said:

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All of the home schoolers I know LOVE phonics. So probably not many.

My private school taught 3rd grader ranked in the 96% of 3rd graders for reading at their winter assessment.

I guess that's not that impressive now.

Both my kids went to a private day care until K and both were able to read before they stepped foot in their elementary school. Think they have my 2nd grade son doing 3rd and 4th grade reading now. Think there is a big difference between inner city versus suburb reading abilities too.

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I'm sure they have their pronouns ironed out, though. After that, the only responsibility public schools have left is to hand out condoms and help transition the dysmorphic.

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American Public Media reporter Emily Hanford digs into a flawed theory that has shaped reading instruction for decades. The theory is that children can learn to read without learning how to sound out words, because there are other strategies they can use to figure out what the words say. Strategies like "look at the picture" or "think of a word that makes sense."

Research by cognitive scientists has demonstrated that readers need to know how to sound out words. But some teacher training programs still emphasize this debunked theory, including books and classroom materials that are popular around the world. Scientists say these strategies are teaching children the habits of struggling readers. Kids learn to skip letters and words and struggle to understand what they're reading.

For decades, the standard approach to teaching kids how to decipher, or "decode," text has rested on the assumption that it's not necessary to explicitly teach the vast majority of them how to connect sounds in words to the letters that represent them. Teachers may throw in some of that instruction, often called "phonics," but they're guided by their training and materials to encourage kids to guess at words, using context or pictures. Scientific evidence has clearly shown, however, that many if not most children will struggle to become fluent readers unless they get systematic instruction in phonics.

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And the legislation to improve schools is where? Feels like more Florida style bills are priority.

End of the day, if the parents are involved with their children's education, this wouldn't be an issue. Parents should be reading with their kids most nights. I'm not talking about spending an hour every night reading, but simply reading a book or 2 with your kid really reinforces the education.

While I always enjoy crapping on our public education system, issue number 1 continues to be parents who outsource every bit of education to a separate entity.

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End of the day, if the parents are involved with their children's education, this wouldn't be an issue. Parents should be reading with their kids most nights. I'm not talking about spending an hour every night reading, but simply reading a book or 2 with your kid really reinforces the education.

While I always enjoy crapping on our public education system, issue number 1 continues to be parents who outsource every bit of education to a separate entity.

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Agree. And not reading to kids crosses all spectrums. You have those parents we mention here often, as well as highly educated parents who get home and play on their phones and dont pay attention to their kids.

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Squadron7 said:

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I'm sure they have their pronouns ironed out, though. After that, the only responsibility public schools have left is to hand out condoms and help transition the dysmorphic.

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American Public Media reporter Emily Hanford digs into a flawed theory that has shaped reading instruction for decades. The theory is that children can learn to read without learning how to sound out words, because there are other strategies they can use to figure out what the words say. Strategies like "look at the picture" or "think of a word that makes sense."

Research by cognitive scientists has demonstrated that readers need to know how to sound out words. But some teacher training programs still emphasize this debunked theory, including books and classroom materials that are popular around the world. Scientists say these strategies are teaching children the habits of struggling readers. Kids learn to skip letters and words and struggle to understand what they're reading.

For decades, the standard approach to teaching kids how to decipher, or "decode," text has rested on the assumption that it's not necessary to explicitly teach the vast majority of them how to connect sounds in words to the letters that represent them. Teachers may throw in some of that instruction, often called "phonics," but they're guided by their training and materials to encourage kids to guess at words, using context or pictures. Scientific evidence has clearly shown, however, that many if not most children will struggle to become fluent readers unless they get systematic instruction in phonics.

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And the legislation to improve schools is where? Feels like more Florida style bills are priority.

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I am handing you a magic gavel to pass said legislation.

What would you have it say?

Keeping discussions of human sexuality and gender identity away from K-3 students is improving schools.

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I'm sure they have their pronouns ironed out, though. After that, the only responsibility public schools have left is to hand out condoms and help transition the dysmorphic.

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American Public Media reporter Emily Hanford digs into a flawed theory that has shaped reading instruction for decades. The theory is that children can learn to read without learning how to sound out words, because there are other strategies they can use to figure out what the words say. Strategies like "look at the picture" or "think of a word that makes sense."

Research by cognitive scientists has demonstrated that readers need to know how to sound out words. But some teacher training programs still emphasize this debunked theory, including books and classroom materials that are popular around the world. Scientists say these strategies are teaching children the habits of struggling readers. Kids learn to skip letters and words and struggle to understand what they're reading.

For decades, the standard approach to teaching kids how to decipher, or "decode," text has rested on the assumption that it's not necessary to explicitly teach the vast majority of them how to connect sounds in words to the letters that represent them. Teachers may throw in some of that instruction, often called "phonics," but they're guided by their training and materials to encourage kids to guess at words, using context or pictures. Scientific evidence has clearly shown, however, that many if not most children will struggle to become fluent readers unless they get systematic instruction in phonics.

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And the legislation to improve schools is where? Feels like more Florida style bills are priority.

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Having taught in Florida for the past 20 years, we began the emphasis on phonics and phonemic awareness in reading teacher training back when I first started. When I added the Reading Endorsement to my certificate 15 years ago, everything about teaching reading was the way I remembered learning. So, seems that passing a "Florida-style" bill might be beneficial for reading instruction as well. We un-effed ourselves a couple of decades ago.

However, none of that matters much when kids are coming from broken homes where no one gives a $#!+ about their education, much less is making the kids read every day.

Don't blame the school system.

If a kid can't read, then it's the parents' fault.

Why wouldn't you teach your kid to read as early as possible?

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GeorgiAg said:

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I have a public school kindergartner that reads pretty well. The type of school doesn't matter quite as much as having two parents at home that make education a priority.

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64% of AA family are single parents
42% of Hispanic are single parent homes
24% of non-Hispanic white are single parent homes.

My wife sub'd at the kids' elementary school. It was plainly obvious in the first 10-minutes of each day she sub'd which kids had parent(s) who cared and which ones did not. Even the 2-parent house was no guarantee, but the single parent is getting killed working and trying to raise kids and it's killing their education.

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I'm sure they have their pronouns ironed out, though. After that, the only responsibility public schools have left is to hand out condoms and help transition the dysmorphic.

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American Public Media reporter Emily Hanford digs into a flawed theory that has shaped reading instruction for decades. The theory is that children can learn to read without learning how to sound out words, because there are other strategies they can use to figure out what the words say. Strategies like "look at the picture" or "think of a word that makes sense."

Research by cognitive scientists has demonstrated that readers need to know how to sound out words. But some teacher training programs still emphasize this debunked theory, including books and classroom materials that are popular around the world. Scientists say these strategies are teaching children the habits of struggling readers. Kids learn to skip letters and words and struggle to understand what they're reading.

For decades, the standard approach to teaching kids how to decipher, or "decode," text has rested on the assumption that it's not necessary to explicitly teach the vast majority of them how to connect sounds in words to the letters that represent them. Teachers may throw in some of that instruction, often called "phonics," but they're guided by their training and materials to encourage kids to guess at words, using context or pictures. Scientific evidence has clearly shown, however, that many if not most children will struggle to become fluent readers unless they get systematic instruction in phonics.

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And the legislation to improve schools is where? Feels like more Florida style bills are priority.

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LOL....bat signal activated and also that you think more government is the answer.

As an 11th grade history teacher, I can vouch for everything in that article. The school system switched how reading was taught several years ago, and the experiment failed. The problem is universal regardless of how well off and engaged the family is.

With that said, an engaged and caring family with an educated background can overcome the shortcomings of the school system. Unfortunately, it really does require educated parents who stay very involved and willing (and able) to work with their children every day.

I teach at a school with well over 80% of students in poverty and over 50% with English as their second language. It makes sense that they would be behind the average American student. My average 11th grade student is probably reading below an 8th grade level. Grammar is probably closer to 3rd or 4th grade level.

I have a lot of thoughts on this and will add more when I have time.

GeorgiAg said:

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Homeschooling kids tend to either exceed the public school kids or fall far behind them. It all depends on what kind of parents they have. It's not hard to find "homeschooled" kids in the 5th grade that can't read. On the other hand you'll find plenty of homeschooling kindergarten kids that can read books.

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I'm sure they have their pronouns ironed out, though. After that, the only responsibility public schools have left is to hand out condoms and help transition the dysmorphic.

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American Public Media reporter Emily Hanford digs into a flawed theory that has shaped reading instruction for decades. The theory is that children can learn to read without learning how to sound out words, because there are other strategies they can use to figure out what the words say. Strategies like "look at the picture" or "think of a word that makes sense."

Research by cognitive scientists has demonstrated that readers need to know how to sound out words. But some teacher training programs still emphasize this debunked theory, including books and classroom materials that are popular around the world. Scientists say these strategies are teaching children the habits of struggling readers. Kids learn to skip letters and words and struggle to understand what they're reading.

For decades, the standard approach to teaching kids how to decipher, or "decode," text has rested on the assumption that it's not necessary to explicitly teach the vast majority of them how to connect sounds in words to the letters that represent them. Teachers may throw in some of that instruction, often called "phonics," but they're guided by their training and materials to encourage kids to guess at words, using context or pictures. Scientific evidence has clearly shown, however, that many if not most children will struggle to become fluent readers unless they get systematic instruction in phonics.

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For our dyslexic son, coding was the only way he was finally able to read. He flourishes now because of 1 hour a week of public instruction and 1 hour a day of private tutoring we paid for from 2nd grade thru 6th grade. It was a real hassle, but he is getting A's in high school and enjoys reading now. If it would have been left up to the school, it never would have happened.

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JDUB08AG said:

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End of the day, if the parents are involved with their children's education, this wouldn't be an issue. Parents should be reading with their kids most nights. I'm not talking about spending an hour every night reading, but simply reading a book or 2 with your kid really reinforces the education.

While I always enjoy crapping on our public education system, issue number 1 continues to be parents who outsource every bit of education to a separate entity.

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Agree. And not reading to kids crosses all spectrums. You have those parents we mention here often, as well as highly educated parents who get home and play on their phones and dont pay attention to their kids.

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Agree, but we can't fix parents, so how about we at least fix the schools who are teaching kids to read in a way that does not work?


It's always but "the parents", yet the schools continue to fail and they continue to push new ways of doing things that DON"T WORK.

The title is 65% of 4th graders can't read , but does the article ever say how they came up with that number?
What was the sample size, who did they sample?
Maybe it's true but where is the data/ evidence behind that number?

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I'm sure they have their pronouns ironed out, though. After that, the only responsibility public schools have left is to hand out condoms and help transition the dysmorphic.

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American Public Media reporter Emily Hanford digs into a flawed theory that has shaped reading instruction for decades. The theory is that children can learn to read without learning how to sound out words, because there are other strategies they can use to figure out what the words say. Strategies like "look at the picture" or "think of a word that makes sense."

Research by cognitive scientists has demonstrated that readers need to know how to sound out words. But some teacher training programs still emphasize this debunked theory, including books and classroom materials that are popular around the world. Scientists say these strategies are teaching children the habits of struggling readers. Kids learn to skip letters and words and struggle to understand what they're reading.

For decades, the standard approach to teaching kids how to decipher, or "decode," text has rested on the assumption that it's not necessary to explicitly teach the vast majority of them how to connect sounds in words to the letters that represent them. Teachers may throw in some of that instruction, often called "phonics," but they're guided by their training and materials to encourage kids to guess at words, using context or pictures. Scientific evidence has clearly shown, however, that many if not most children will struggle to become fluent readers unless they get systematic instruction in phonics.

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And the legislation to improve schools is where? Feels like more Florida style bills are priority.

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Having taught in Florida for the past 20 years, we began the emphasis on phonics and phonemic awareness in reading teacher training back when I first started. When I added the Reading Endorsement to my certificate 15 years ago, everything about teaching reading was the way I remembered learning. So, seems that passing a "Florida-style" bill might be beneficial for reading instruction as well. We un-effed ourselves a couple of decades ago.

However, none of that matters much when kids are coming from broken homes where no one gives a $#!+ about their education, much less is making the kids read every day.

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Florida schools are MUCH better than other red states pursuing the bills I mention. See Arkansas.

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GeorgiAg said:

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How many of the 35% are homeschooled?

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And private schooled.

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I would bet the answer to both is close to zero.