The first commercial of the superbowl was about hot flashes from menopause.
They are sitting in cockpits.

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Irish 2.0 said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Why would ags be a part of a display of wokeness like including women

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Because sadly A&M is just as woke as other large state run universities nowadays.

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Ah ****.

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It isn't just the inclusion of women. It is going out of their way to virtue signal like this and using ONLY women. But you already know that.

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The first female AF pilot was probably when you were in elementary school.


It may be virtue signaling, but do you actually doubt they aren't qualified to do this?


Is it really a big deal? Do people who actually watch the SB care about the flyover pilots?

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Yes.

The have to have weenies, or it doesn't count.

I mean what's next? Women doctors? Male nurses?

Be serious.

I bet the probability that all the flyover pilots were selected just based on merits was similar to the probability that all the Tillman scholars would each represent a different ethnicity.

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Why would ags be a part of a display of wokeness like including women

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Because sadly A&M is just as woke as other large state run universities nowadays.

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Ah ****.

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It isn't just the inclusion of women. It is going out of their way to virtue signal like this and using ONLY women. But you already know that.

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The first female AF pilot was probably when you were in elementary school.


It may be virtue signaling, but do you actually doubt they aren't qualified to do this?


Is it really a big deal? Do people who actually watch the SB care about the flyover pilots?

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Only if their is a way for them to virtue signal by insisting it must be some form of virtue signal. Nothing happens anymore with it being a signal from the left or the right. Everything is politically based and must fall on one side of the spectrum or the other…or it isn't real

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So.you think they randomly drew all girls names out of a hat or what?

Well aware of the WASPs. They were not considered military at the time and were not treated as veterans.

This is specifically about the 50th anniversary of women in Naval aviation.

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Flying in the Super Hornets
Lt. Arielle Ash, Abilene, Texas, Texas Tech, representing VFA-122, the "Flying Eagles"
Lt. Saree Moreno, Tampa, Florida, U.S. Naval Academy, representing VFA-122, the "Flying Eagles"
Lt. Naomi Ngalle, Springfield, Virginia, U.S. Naval Academy, representing VFA-2, the "Bounty Hunters"
Lt. Caitie Perkowski, Albuquerque, New Mexico, U.S. Naval Academy, representing VFA-192, the "World Famous Golden Dragons"

Flying the Growler
Lt. Peggy Dente, North Salem, New York, University of Southern California, representing VAQ-129, the "Vikings"
Lt. Lyndsay Evans, Palmdale, California, University of Southern California, representing the Navy's Electronic Attack Warfare School

Flying the Lightning
Lt. Suzelle Thomas, Birmingham, Alabama, U.S. Naval Academy, representing VFA-97, the "Warhawks"

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Now, that's some amazing diversity.

Haven't read the thread, but giving them a flyover if beneath women. Sure, they can do a flyover but they can do so much more.

I do think however the most ceremonious flights should be given to the best pilots, ones that are "top guns", so probably not women…. not that they can't be, but it's an equivalent of men's vs women's basketball.

…at least pilots birthed without pitot tubes!

Really? No one?

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The first female AF pilot was probably when you were in elementary school.


It may be virtue signaling, but do you actually doubt they aren't qualified to do this?

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I was in high school when The first female Naval combat pilot got herself killed and damn near took her back-seater with her. The Navy tried to blame it on a design flaw but they couldn't hide her abysmal training record.

Neat flyover. Way distracting that three of them had left blinker on whole time.

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Neat flyover. Way distracting that three of them had left blinker on whole time.

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The Super Bowl flyover team featuring exclusively female pilots has informed NFL officials that they are running a "little behind."

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Best babylonbee ever... To bad it is made up, funny though.

https://babylonbee.com/news/super-bowl-flyover-featuring-all-female-pilots-running-20-minutes-late

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Don't you dare put words in my mouth with your typical troll job *****

Nowhere did I say they weren't qualified.

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Not trolling.
Asked you if you think they aren't qualified. Putting people in roles some think they aren't qualified for is often called virtue signaling on F16. We know this.

Have a great rest of your Sunday.

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You're better than this. Nobody said they weren't qualified or even brought the word "qualified" into the conversation but you. Now, why wasn't there a mix of male and female pilots as would be found in virtually any group of military pilots? Why only female?

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you didnt try google eh?

https://www.navy.mil/50-Years-of-Women-Flying-in-the-Navy/

In 1973, the first eight women began flight school in Pensacola, and one year later six of those eight women, titled "The First Six", earned their Wings of Gold. In the fifty years since, Naval Aviation has expanded its roles for women to lead and serve globally.





interneting is hard!

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Why would ags be a part of a display of wokeness like including women

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Because sadly A&M is just as woke as other large state run universities nowadays.

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Ah ****.

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It isn't just the inclusion of women. It is going out of their way to virtue signal like this and using ONLY women. But you already know that.

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They must have been concerned that if there were a mix of male & female pilots that the difference in skill would be apparent

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Or these chicks are just kick ass pilots being given a great honor for being kick ass.

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No politics involved at all? I agree that are all kick ass. Making this about all female takes away from their accomplishments. I just hope the Air Force did not make them paint their pronouns on the side of their aircraft.

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air force provides the planes for the navy

thats crazy

Was it on Feb 12 1973?

If that was supposed to be some form of "gottcha" it failed miserably.

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Why would ags be a part of a display of wokeness like including women

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Because sadly A&M is just as woke as other large state run universities nowadays.

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Ah ****.

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It isn't just the inclusion of women. It is going out of their way to virtue signal like this and using ONLY women. But you already know that.

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used to be we just saluted Aviators and pilots.

now we have to first check under their flight suits to see their skin color and number of chromosomes.

because maybe some of them "identify" as a man.

the asteroid can't come soon enough!

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Buddy who is a former naval aviator and now flies commercial told me two of the flyover gals have had ramp strikes, and it's laughable that they're allowed to do the flyover

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Was it on Feb 12 1973?

If that was supposed to be some form of "gottcha" it failed miserably.

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you asked why all women and this is why

sry that women pilots bothers you

I guess every flyover in 2023 needs to be all women, you know, just for "awareness" and such. Honestly, I didn't pay much attention other than the caption on the screen saying they were all female. Did they mention that it was in celebration of 50 years of female fighter pilots?

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I guess every flyover in 2023 needs to be all women, you know, just for "awareness" and such.

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its ok you didnt know why the navy did that

neither did i so i googled

no need to be disgruntled that women can fly

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B-1 83 said:

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I guess every flyover in 2023 needs to be all women, you know, just for "awareness" and such.

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its ok you didnt know why the navy did that

neither did i so i googled

no need to be disgruntled that women can fly

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We are not, we know its for political reasons

Who is disgruntled that women can fly? I don't care. If they honestly said it was in celebration of 50 years of female fighter pilots it does change the situation.

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Where is canyon when you need him.

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Enjoying My Favorite Pilot's twin girls, born the day before Thanksgiving.

MFP now separated from USAF, will likely go to airlines in the next year.

Her Viper squadron at Shaw would have had 4 female pilots at the same time last fall. They were definitely discussing an all-female flyover. Transfers and deployments meant that not all were in the squadron at the same time, so it never got beyond the "wouldn't it be cool" stage.

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Kudos to your daughter

I was a Captain in the US Air Force (Reserves). We didn't think about "hey, maybe we should give this job to a woman instead of a man because it would be cool"

then again, this was 2005-09 when hundreds were getting killed and wounded in the Middle East and Afghanistan every month.

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Who is disgruntled that women can fly? I don't care. If they honestly said it was in celebration of 50 years of female fighter pilots it does change the situation.

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It was in celebration of 50 years of women in Naval Aviation.

Articles detailing that fact have been linked in this thread.

I pretty much just skipped to the last after the first page and missed that. Cool.

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Who is disgruntled that women can fly? I don't care. If they honestly said it was in celebration of 50 years of female fighter pilots it does change the situation.

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It was in celebration of 50 years of women in Naval Aviation.

Articles detailing that fact have been linked in this thread.

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I missed that after not paying attention last night. My apologies.

If they're qualified, fly them. There's actually some good things about female anatomy that make them potentially good pilot candidates. They supposedly tend to deal with G forces somewhat better, not strength wise but regarding circulation, as I understand it. They're also smaller on average, so the cockpit space reserved need not be as large. Males have some advantages as well such as better in average spatial and relative motion perception. Keep in mind there are outliers for every population distribution and polite are a select group.

Frankly, I don't care who is up there as long as they are getting it done.

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If they're qualified, fly them. There's actually some good things about female anatomy that make them potentially good pilot candidates. They supposedly tend to deal with G forces somewhat better, not strength wise but regarding circulation, as I understand it. They're also smaller on average, so the cockpit space reserved need not be as large. Males have some advantages as well such as better in average spatial and relative motion perception. Keep in mind there are outliers for every population distribution and polite are a select group.

Frankly, I don't care who is up there as long as they are getting it done.

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Well that has yet to be proven

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I was a Captain in the US Air Force (Reserves). We didn't think about "hey, maybe we should give this job to a woman instead of a man because it would be cool"

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A flyover is not a job, it's a perk. We aren't talking about combat, where the task goes to the next one in line.

My assumption is that the pilots involved like doing flyovers. And I think it's a pretty easy assumption that the pilots involved, ask for assignments based on the cool factor. Pilots from A&M would consider it "cool" to fly over Kyle Field. Aggie pilots get to do Kyle Field, even if more qualified pilots are in the squadron.

MFP did do an attempted flyover that was weather canceled. When she was a T-6 FAIP, her base sent four T-6s to USAFA to do a flyover during graduation week. All eight seats were filled by USAFA grads.

Do you think they picked those 8 because they were the best, or because they were all Zoomies?

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Frankly, I don't care who is up there as long as they are getting it done.

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Well that has yet to be proven

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It was in celebration of 50 years of women in Naval Aviation.

Articles detailing that fact have been linked in this thread.

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And there are also articles implying that it was a last minute decision due to woke pressure:

Report: Navy Reshuffles Super Bowl Flyover Line-Up to Feature First All-Woman Team

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Military.com reported Friday that when the Navy first announced in a press release its Super Bowl flyover team line-up on January 27, there were only three women listed and none of them were pilots.

That press release has been taken down, but USNI reported the names of the 15 service members who were to be involved in the flyover, which listed a team of 15, but only three women: Lt. Lyndsay "Miley" Evans, Lt. Kathryn Martinez, and Lt. Saree Moreno. And criticism on social media still exists.

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Navy Cmdr. Zach Harrell, spokesman for the commander of Naval Air Forces, told Military.com that its initial announcement was not final and released "before we had settled on the final lineup."

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the entire pregame was one big virtue signal