Surrogacy and 'hand luggage'

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redcrayon
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Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

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The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt
This is an absolute lie perpetrated by the left.




So why do so many of the older or challenged kids end up in the homes of gay couple or single parents?


And why do so many age out?


This will be fun when you try to prove that doesn't happen


Have a great day sweetie.
This is what you said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

I'll wait for you to provide proof that hetero couples NEVER adopt these kids. That's what you said.
Tanya 93
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redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt
This is an absolute lie perpetrated by the left.




So why do so many of the older or challenged kids end up in the homes of gay couple or single parents?


And why do so many age out?


This will be fun when you try to prove that doesn't happen


Have a great day sweetie.
This is what you said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

I'll wait for you to provide proof that hetero couples NEVER adopt these kids. That's what you said.




Never said that hetero couples didn't adopt them.


And my proof is growing up with parents that foster and being a CASA volunteer


Have a nice evening.
redcrayon
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Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt
This is an absolute lie perpetrated by the left.




So why do so many of the older or challenged kids end up in the homes of gay couple or single parents?


And why do so many age out?


This will be fun when you try to prove that doesn't happen


Have a great day sweetie.
This is what you said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

I'll wait for you to provide proof that hetero couples NEVER adopt these kids. That's what you said.




Never said that hetero couples didn't adopt them.


And my proof is growing up with parents that foster and being a CASA volunteer


Have a nice evening.
Quote:

those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

Blatant lie. One of the biggest ministries in our church is families who foster or adopt kids over the age of 6. Over 50 families. Stop lying. You have no proof. It's shameful.
Tanya 93
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redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt
This is an absolute lie perpetrated by the left.




So why do so many of the older or challenged kids end up in the homes of gay couple or single parents?


And why do so many age out?


This will be fun when you try to prove that doesn't happen


Have a great day sweetie.
This is what you said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

I'll wait for you to provide proof that hetero couples NEVER adopt these kids. That's what you said.




Never said that hetero couples didn't adopt them.


And my proof is growing up with parents that foster and being a CASA volunteer


Have a nice evening.
Quote:

those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

Blatant lie. One of the biggest ministries in our church is families who foster or adopt kids over the age of 6. Over 50 families. Stop lying. You have no proof. It's shameful.



Yes

Lying is shameful and you should stop

I never said hetero couples didn't adopt.
That would be stupid.


Have a nice Ground Hog Day sweetie.
SpreadsheetAg
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BallerStaf2003 said:

Wow, hand luggage? An accessory? They paid hundreds of thousand of dollars and their own time and effort for a living Gucci bag?

How do you know that?

I'll be sure to tell my gay friends in Dallas who now have 2-4 children of their own the same route that they've been raising something to make them look good.

The hate on this board is next level and out of control on many different aspects.

This is a family. The people who tweeted differently are disgusting humans


Why do you hate Christians and Muslims so much? The hate spewing from your typing is Christophobic and Islamophobic...
Actual Talking Thermos
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Never mind that these guys are apparently Portuguese and it's a language barrier thing. If some Anglo-American hetero Christian couple adopted a child from a foreign country and expressed their excitement about having a new "carry-on" for their flight home, nobody here would be clutching their pearls about the horrible dehumanizing commodification of the child by those terrible parents.
redcrayon
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Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt
This is an absolute lie perpetrated by the left.




So why do so many of the older or challenged kids end up in the homes of gay couple or single parents?


And why do so many age out?


This will be fun when you try to prove that doesn't happen


Have a great day sweetie.
This is what you said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

I'll wait for you to provide proof that hetero couples NEVER adopt these kids. That's what you said.




Never said that hetero couples didn't adopt them.


And my proof is growing up with parents that foster and being a CASA volunteer


Have a nice evening.
Quote:

those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

Blatant lie. One of the biggest ministries in our church is families who foster or adopt kids over the age of 6. Over 50 families. Stop lying. You have no proof. It's shameful.



Yes

Lying is shameful and you should stop

I never said hetero couples didn't adopt.
That would be stupid.


Have a nice Ground Hog Day sweetie.
You lie on this website so much it's insane. If people only knew...
Actual Talking Thermos
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redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt
This is an absolute lie perpetrated by the left.




So why do so many of the older or challenged kids end up in the homes of gay couple or single parents?


And why do so many age out?


This will be fun when you try to prove that doesn't happen


Have a great day sweetie.
This is what you said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

I'll wait for you to provide proof that hetero couples NEVER adopt these kids. That's what you said.




Never said that hetero couples didn't adopt them.


And my proof is growing up with parents that foster and being a CASA volunteer


Have a nice evening.
Quote:

those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

Blatant lie. One of the biggest ministries in our church is families who foster or adopt kids over the age of 6. Over 50 families. Stop lying. You have no proof. It's shameful.



Yes

Lying is shameful and you should stop

I never said hetero couples didn't adopt.
That would be stupid.


Have a nice Ground Hog Day sweetie.
You lie on this website so much it's insane. If people only knew...
Spill it or shut up
Tanya 93
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redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt
This is an absolute lie perpetrated by the left.




So why do so many of the older or challenged kids end up in the homes of gay couple or single parents?


And why do so many age out?


This will be fun when you try to prove that doesn't happen


Have a great day sweetie.
This is what you said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

I'll wait for you to provide proof that hetero couples NEVER adopt these kids. That's what you said.




Never said that hetero couples didn't adopt them.


And my proof is growing up with parents that foster and being a CASA volunteer


Have a nice evening.
Quote:

those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

Blatant lie. One of the biggest ministries in our church is families who foster or adopt kids over the age of 6. Over 50 families. Stop lying. You have no proof. It's shameful.



Yes

Lying is shameful and you should stop

I never said hetero couples didn't adopt.
That would be stupid.


Have a nice Ground Hog Day sweetie.
You lie on this website so much it's insane. If people only knew...




I never said hetero couples didn't adopt.

But if you need to play this game, be very careful.

I just don't care about you.
Apparently that is a different story for you. Especially if you want to stay
Sea Speed
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redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt
This is an absolute lie perpetrated by the left.




So why do so many of the older or challenged kids end up in the homes of gay couple or single parents?


And why do so many age out?


This will be fun when you try to prove that doesn't happen


Have a great day sweetie.
This is what you said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

I'll wait for you to provide proof that hetero couples NEVER adopt these kids. That's what you said.




Never said that hetero couples didn't adopt them.


And my proof is growing up with parents that foster and being a CASA volunteer


Have a nice evening.
Quote:

those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

Blatant lie. One of the biggest ministries in our church is families who foster or adopt kids over the age of 6. Over 50 families. Stop lying. You have no proof. It's shameful.



Yes

Lying is shameful and you should stop

I never said hetero couples didn't adopt.
That would be stupid.


Have a nice Ground Hog Day sweetie.
You lie on this website so much it's insane. If people only knew...


Pretty sure I've seen some of the crazier stuff.
Bob Lee
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Sea Speed said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt
This is an absolute lie perpetrated by the left.




So why do so many of the older or challenged kids end up in the homes of gay couple or single parents?


And why do so many age out?


This will be fun when you try to prove that doesn't happen


Have a great day sweetie.
This is what you said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

I'll wait for you to provide proof that hetero couples NEVER adopt these kids. That's what you said.




Never said that hetero couples didn't adopt them.


And my proof is growing up with parents that foster and being a CASA volunteer


Have a nice evening.
Quote:

those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

Blatant lie. One of the biggest ministries in our church is families who foster or adopt kids over the age of 6. Over 50 families. Stop lying. You have no proof. It's shameful.



Yes

Lying is shameful and you should stop

I never said hetero couples didn't adopt.
That would be stupid.


Have a nice Ground Hog Day sweetie.
You lie on this website so much it's insane. If people only knew...


Pretty sure I've seen some of the crazier stuff.


Like that she plays sexually suggestive card games with her teenaged son, and then flags everyone who makes note of how sick that actually is?
Sea Speed
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Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt
This is an absolute lie perpetrated by the left.




So why do so many of the older or challenged kids end up in the homes of gay couple or single parents?


And why do so many age out?


This will be fun when you try to prove that doesn't happen


Have a great day sweetie.
This is what you said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

I'll wait for you to provide proof that hetero couples NEVER adopt these kids. That's what you said.




Never said that hetero couples didn't adopt them.


And my proof is growing up with parents that foster and being a CASA volunteer


Have a nice evening.
Quote:

those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

Blatant lie. One of the biggest ministries in our church is families who foster or adopt kids over the age of 6. Over 50 families. Stop lying. You have no proof. It's shameful.



Yes

Lying is shameful and you should stop

I never said hetero couples didn't adopt.
That would be stupid.


Have a nice Ground Hog Day sweetie.
You lie on this website so much it's insane. If people only knew...




I never said hetero couples didn't adopt.

But if you need to play this game, be very careful.

I just don't care about you.
Apparently that is a different story for you. Especially if you want to stay


He literally quoted you saying that gay couples adopt older kids that hetero couples would NEVER adopt. Your words.

As for the rest of that post, sure looks like authentic frontier gibberish to me.
redcrayon
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Actual Talking Thermos said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt
This is an absolute lie perpetrated by the left.




So why do so many of the older or challenged kids end up in the homes of gay couple or single parents?


And why do so many age out?


This will be fun when you try to prove that doesn't happen


Have a great day sweetie.
This is what you said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

I'll wait for you to provide proof that hetero couples NEVER adopt these kids. That's what you said.




Never said that hetero couples didn't adopt them.


And my proof is growing up with parents that foster and being a CASA volunteer


Have a nice evening.
Quote:

those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

Blatant lie. One of the biggest ministries in our church is families who foster or adopt kids over the age of 6. Over 50 families. Stop lying. You have no proof. It's shameful.



Yes

Lying is shameful and you should stop

I never said hetero couples didn't adopt.
That would be stupid.


Have a nice Ground Hog Day sweetie.
You lie on this website so much it's insane. If people only knew...
Spill it or shut up
Can't. It will cost me my username. Other people know.
TXAGFAN
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Some of you have very little understanding or incorrect understanding entirely of surrogacy process to have these strong opinions.

To be clear, not talking about your opinion - I'm talking basic understanding of process. That understanding in many instances is resulting in very ill informed opinions.
TXAGFAN
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redcrayon said:

Actual Talking Thermos said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt
This is an absolute lie perpetrated by the left.




So why do so many of the older or challenged kids end up in the homes of gay couple or single parents?


And why do so many age out?


This will be fun when you try to prove that doesn't happen


Have a great day sweetie.
This is what you said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

I'll wait for you to provide proof that hetero couples NEVER adopt these kids. That's what you said.




Never said that hetero couples didn't adopt them.


And my proof is growing up with parents that foster and being a CASA volunteer


Have a nice evening.
Quote:

those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

Blatant lie. One of the biggest ministries in our church is families who foster or adopt kids over the age of 6. Over 50 families. Stop lying. You have no proof. It's shameful.



Yes

Lying is shameful and you should stop

I never said hetero couples didn't adopt.
That would be stupid.


Have a nice Ground Hog Day sweetie.
You lie on this website so much it's insane. If people only knew...
Spill it or shut up
Can't. It will cost me my username. Other people know.
You guys talk about that somewhere else like Discord?
Tanya 93
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TXAGFAN said:

redcrayon said:

Actual Talking Thermos said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt
This is an absolute lie perpetrated by the left.




So why do so many of the older or challenged kids end up in the homes of gay couple or single parents?


And why do so many age out?


This will be fun when you try to prove that doesn't happen


Have a great day sweetie.
This is what you said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

I'll wait for you to provide proof that hetero couples NEVER adopt these kids. That's what you said.




Never said that hetero couples didn't adopt them.


And my proof is growing up with parents that foster and being a CASA volunteer


Have a nice evening.
Quote:

those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

Blatant lie. One of the biggest ministries in our church is families who foster or adopt kids over the age of 6. Over 50 families. Stop lying. You have no proof. It's shameful.



Yes

Lying is shameful and you should stop

I never said hetero couples didn't adopt.
That would be stupid.


Have a nice Ground Hog Day sweetie.
You lie on this website so much it's insane. If people only knew...
Spill it or shut up
Can't. It will cost me my username. Other people know.
You guys talk about that somewhere else like Discord?



Probably

But I never realized she has such a lonely life to pull this **** for stars
redcrayon
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TXAGFAN said:

redcrayon said:

Actual Talking Thermos said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt
This is an absolute lie perpetrated by the left.




So why do so many of the older or challenged kids end up in the homes of gay couple or single parents?


And why do so many age out?


This will be fun when you try to prove that doesn't happen


Have a great day sweetie.
This is what you said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

I'll wait for you to provide proof that hetero couples NEVER adopt these kids. That's what you said.




Never said that hetero couples didn't adopt them.


And my proof is growing up with parents that foster and being a CASA volunteer


Have a nice evening.
Quote:

those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

Blatant lie. One of the biggest ministries in our church is families who foster or adopt kids over the age of 6. Over 50 families. Stop lying. You have no proof. It's shameful.



Yes

Lying is shameful and you should stop

I never said hetero couples didn't adopt.
That would be stupid.


Have a nice Ground Hog Day sweetie.
You lie on this website so much it's insane. If people only knew...
Spill it or shut up
Can't. It will cost me my username. Other people know.
You guys talk about that somewhere else like Discord?
Are you FBI?
Bob Lee
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TXAGFAN said:

Some of you have very little understanding or incorrect understanding entirely of surrogacy process to have these strong opinions.

To be clear, not talking about your opinion - I'm talking basic understanding of process. That understanding in many instances is resulting in very ill informed opinions.


Let's start with the basics. Is it true that there are agencies that act as a brokerage to match buyers and sellers of women's uteruses? Or what is the incorrect understanding?
Sea Speed
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Tanya 93 said:

TXAGFAN said:

redcrayon said:

Actual Talking Thermos said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Tanya 93 said:

redcrayon said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt
This is an absolute lie perpetrated by the left.




So why do so many of the older or challenged kids end up in the homes of gay couple or single parents?


And why do so many age out?


This will be fun when you try to prove that doesn't happen


Have a great day sweetie.
This is what you said:

Quote:

The gay couples and single parents regularly adopt the kids those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

I'll wait for you to provide proof that hetero couples NEVER adopt these kids. That's what you said.




Never said that hetero couples didn't adopt them.


And my proof is growing up with parents that foster and being a CASA volunteer


Have a nice evening.
Quote:

those perfect hetero couples would never adopt

Blatant lie. One of the biggest ministries in our church is families who foster or adopt kids over the age of 6. Over 50 families. Stop lying. You have no proof. It's shameful.



Yes

Lying is shameful and you should stop

I never said hetero couples didn't adopt.
That would be stupid.


Have a nice Ground Hog Day sweetie.
You lie on this website so much it's insane. If people only knew...
Spill it or shut up
Can't. It will cost me my username. Other people know.
You guys talk about that somewhere else like Discord?



Probably

But I never realized she has such a lonely life to pull this **** for stars


How many of your posts on this board and elsewhere online are strictly for attention? Pot meet kettle.
redcrayon
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Stars??? NO ONE CARES ABOUT STARS. My goodness. Sad.
Infection_Ag11
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Bob Lee said:

agent-maroon said:

IVF =/= surrogacy

Of course you must have IVF for surrogacy, but IVF is most commonly used for heterosexual couples who can't conceive via intercourse for whatever reason. The morality of IVF and/or surrogacy are separate topics and should be treated as such.


They're immoral for the same reason. They separate procreation from the procreative act. In the case of surrogacy, there's also the intrusion of a 3rd party.


By this logic every form of birth control, including timing a woman's cycle and pulling out, are immoral.
Bob Lee
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Infection_Ag11 said:

Bob Lee said:

agent-maroon said:

IVF =/= surrogacy

Of course you must have IVF for surrogacy, but IVF is most commonly used for heterosexual couples who can't conceive via intercourse for whatever reason. The morality of IVF and/or surrogacy are separate topics and should be treated as such.


They're immoral for the same reason. They separate procreation from the procreative act. In the case of surrogacy, there's also the intrusion of a 3rd party.


By this logic every form of birth control, including timing a woman's cycle and pulling out, are immoral.


Agreed. I don't believe the use of contraceptives is morally licit.

there are much more serious bioethical problems with the killing of human beings and the extra marital creation of babies, and especially through artificial means.
StandUpforAmerica
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Another publication picks up the brain dead women as surrogates story....



Bob Lee
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StandUpforAmerica said:

Another publication picks up the brain dead women as surrogates story....






The interesting part is this is jarring to basically everyone (for now). I'm trying to think of a consistent moral standard where this is wrong, but "ordinary" surrogacy isn't. If we ignore the bioethical and moral issues with surrogacy generally, what is the basis for recoiling at the thought of this?
Tex117
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Bob Lee said:

StandUpforAmerica said:

Another publication picks up the brain dead women as surrogates story....






The interesting part is this is jarring to basically everyone (for now). I'm trying to think of a consistent moral standard where this is wrong, but "ordinary" surrogacy isn't. If we ignore the bioethical and moral issues with surrogacy generally, what is the basis for recoiling at the thought of this?
Non-consent.

Come on. That's obvious.
Bob Lee
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Tex117 said:

Bob Lee said:

StandUpforAmerica said:

Another publication picks up the brain dead women as surrogates story....






The interesting part is this is jarring to basically everyone (for now). I'm trying to think of a consistent moral standard where this is wrong, but "ordinary" surrogacy isn't. If we ignore the bioethical and moral issues with surrogacy generally, what is the basis for recoiling at the thought of this?
Non-consent.

Come on. That's obvious.


Except the article says they must have already consented, same as an organ donation or something.

"brain dead women would be used as surrogates if they had consented to do so beforehand."

What else?
StandUpforAmerica
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This would be just as bad if it was a straight couple.

TXAGFAN
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Women who choose to be egg donors are well aware of how this works, though I don't think they typically provide that much information. ITT: people surprised that gay people are vain lol.

I don't find this any more problematic than women (lesbians single women, heterosexual couples with sperm related issue) picking a sperm donor. For example, there are minimum heights be a sperm donor. Sorry short kings.
 
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