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There is no such thing as a family friendly drag show. These people are degenerates trying to lead your kids to hell.

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I keep seeing the claim that this was advertised as a "family friendly" drag show. Has anyone actually seen evidence of that? I found none when I looked.

To me, that's the difference between this being something targeted at kids and this being a matter of parents taking their kids somewhere they don't belong.

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Clearly it was not based on what guy said at beginning. That wouldn't fit the narrative though so just lie, let the retweets/likes flood in.

Well that guy deserves some blame too. To give that toast when he knew kids were present? Trashy.

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When is enough enough? Russian and Muslim countries are messed up in lot of ways, but they do a much better job protecting children from LGBTQ+ propaganda and recruiting.

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While they don't necessarily "celebrate" alphabet stupidity, don't for a second think those countries aren't just as morally corrupt, if not more so, regarding just about everything to include the treatment of children.

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I acknowledged that those countries are "messed up in a lot of ways". They are much better than the U.S. when it comes to protecting their children from LGBTQ propaganda and recruiting. They don't punish private businesses that refuse to celebrate LGBTQ lifestyles. They don't stigmatize people who refuse to bow to LGBTQ orthodoxy. They don't allow boys in girls locker rooms. They don't allow boys to participate in girls' sports. They don't sacrifice children at the alter of LGBTQ orthodoxy by chemically castrating them or by surgically removing healthy body parts. They teach elementary school children that the LGBTQ lifestyle is healthy or normal. They don't allow drag shows for children. As backward as they are, they are better than us in those regards.

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Ah yes, women in Muslim culture/countries are of course seen as equals. So of course you'd make a parallel that doesn't exist in your post lol re: women or education at all in these places.

Also, look into Iran. They have a messy situation on gay/trans issues - I don't think you'd like it much either.

There is no LGBTQ orthodoxy, we aren't in room cheering on trans kids when their parents seek out medical care. You just are making **** up.

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Well that guy deserves some blame too. To give that toast when he knew kids were present? Trashy.

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For sure it's in poor taste, but I suspect they aren't supposed to be there.

Kids being in adult spaces is complicated everywhere. Like I take family members older kids to the chicken on gameday afternoon, but we're all aware people are drinking and possibly drunk. I don't get upset adults are doing adult things in an adult space.

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Just like an rated R movie, right?

And as usual, no condemnation from the usual. Simply deflecting to clergy groomers who are outright condemned here all the time. Yet he can't bear to utter a condemnation for these grooming events.

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You didn't read my post if that's what you took from it.

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Why would you knowingly bring your children to this?!

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I went to bingo with my mom when I was kid. Granted, there were no drag queens in attendance...

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This is one gay man in video, he doesn't speak for all of team gay. You prepared to answer for all Christians based on bad behavior of a few? And let's pick some real out there ones like FLDS Mormons who consider themselves Christians while marrying young girls. Or what about pedophile priests or baptists pastors (the ones whose victims were girls so we don't get tied up in that distinction) for a more mainstream religion comparison? Of course not and nobody holds you to that standard.

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Seriously? You can't post the word "Catholic" on here without someone bringing up pedophile priests.

That being said, as a Catholic I get it. I don't like the association and will do what I can to denounce this deviant behavior and set a more mainstream example, but the truth is that stereotypes exist for a reason.

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I don't think characterizing Catholics or more specifically Catholic leadership as pedophiles is a fair criticism (in spite of significant organized coverups), you see no issue characterizing gay people with a negative stereotype. THAT is the difference. Yes stereotypes exist, to justify bigotry and other negative attitudes.

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Absolutely Bizarre and almost Unbelievable. Pretty Disgusting.

Dems/Libs have lost their minds if they believe that this is anywhere close to acceptable family entertainment.

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I'm at a loss as to how anyone considers that entertainment at all. In addition to being totally inappropriate for children, it looks like a dumb waste of time to me.

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Around 2015 one of my wife's gay coworkers wanted us to meet up for his bday party at a Mexican restaurant that does drag shows on fri nights. I reluctantly went. It wasn't a lewd one at all (Mexican Madonna, Gloria Estefan, Paula Abdul impersonators etc), and no children were there, but I don't get it either. I just don't understand how gay males are so obsessed with these shows…especially if they don't find women attractive. Different strokes, but I am personally glad I don't look fwd to watching a bunch of dudes in caked on makeup and cheap attire trying to impersonate females on stage on the weekends.

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You see a lot of gay men in that video? I didn't.

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There were tons of gay men at the one I went to…it was very clearly for them. And the gay men on here tend to act like it's just a fun little activity for gay men. I think gay men are less likely to have families, and thus, less likely to go to the shows intended for families and young children.

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My point was that room is full of women and thanks for making my other point - majority of gay men aren't pushing this drag for kids nonsense.

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Gay men are just the ones doing lewd dances and saying extremely perverted sexually explicit things for the children. And gay men online consistently downplay and even goaltend for these deviant perverted freaks.

Imagine a straight chippendale dancer or male/female stripper pulling this type of nasty sh** in front of kids. We'd all be outraged. But team gay has to loyally defend team gay. These people are sick and twisted and you know it. Same with those liberal freak parents taking their kids to see it.

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This is one gay man in video, he doesn't speak for all of team gay. You prepared to answer for all Christians based on bad behavior of a few? And let's pick some real out there ones like FLDS Mormons who consider themselves Christians while marrying young girls. Or what about pedophile priests or baptists pastors (the ones whose victims were girls so we don't get tied up in that distinction) for a more mainstream religion comparison? Of course not and nobody holds you to that standard.

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WTH is your point? I think those people should be punished accordingly…brutally.

Forget rapists, I think any priest or preacher who even dances provocatively or tries to pervert or sexually influence children should be put to death or at a minimum serve life in prison.

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Absolutely Bizarre and almost Unbelievable. Pretty Disgusting.

Dems/Libs have lost their minds if they believe that this is anywhere close to acceptable family entertainment.

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I'm at a loss as to how anyone considers that entertainment at all. In addition to being totally inappropriate for children, it looks like a dumb waste of time to me.

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Around 2015 one of my wife's gay coworkers wanted us to meet up for his bday party at a Mexican restaurant that does drag shows on fri nights. I reluctantly went. It wasn't a lewd one at all (Mexican Madonna, Gloria Estefan, Paula Abdul impersonators etc), and no children were there, but I don't get it either. I just don't understand how gay males are so obsessed with these shows…especially if they don't find women attractive. Different strokes, but I am personally glad I don't look fwd to watching a bunch of dudes in caked on makeup and cheap attire trying to impersonate females on stage on the weekends.

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You see a lot of gay men in that video? I didn't.

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There were tons of gay men at the one I went to…it was very clearly for them. And the gay men on here tend to act like it's just a fun little activity for gay men. I think gay men are less likely to have families, and thus, less likely to go to the shows intended for families and young children.

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My point was that room is full of women and thanks for making my other point - majority of gay men aren't pushing this drag for kids nonsense.

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Gay men are just the ones doing lewd dances and saying extremely perverted sexually explicit things for the children. And gay men online consistently downplay and even goaltend for these deviant perverted freaks.

Imagine a straight chippendale dancer or male/female stripper pulling this type of nasty sh** in front of kids. We'd all be outraged. But team gay has to loyally defend team gay. These people are sick and twisted and you know it. Same with those liberal freak parents taking their kids to see it.

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This is one gay man in video, he doesn't speak for all of team gay. You prepared to answer for all Christians based on bad behavior of a few? And let's pick some real out there ones like FLDS Mormons who consider themselves Christians while marrying young girls. Or what about pedophile priests or baptists pastors (the ones whose victims were girls so we don't get tied up in that distinction) for a more mainstream religion comparison? Of course not and nobody holds you to that standard.

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WTH is your point? I think those people should be punished accordingly…brutally.

Forget rapists, I think any priest or preacher who even dances provocatively or tries to pervert or sexually influence children should be put to death or at a minimum serve life in prison.

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The examples I gave are crimes, the one you want to punish is not - just in poor taste. Big ****ing difference. If you want to start prosecuting stuff like this I don't think you'll like the end result.

That is sick. To think it's funny when children are exposed is sick. Disgusting.

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Yes stereotypes exist, to justify bigotry and other negative attitudes.

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What I was trying to say (and did a poor job of it) was that stereotypes exist because they have some basis in fact. They are perpetuated to justify bigotry and other negative attitudes.

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Who brings their kids to bingo?!

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Bingo is not the problem.

There's no problem with kids at bingo. Lots of places have family friendly bingo nights.

There's a problem with kids at a drag event with a bunch of mentally ill tuckers.

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Wow

That is part of your MO

You use your whaboutisms in an attempt to get a rise out of other posters with the end goal being getting threads like this locked and deleted because they get derailed by your efforts.

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Well that guy deserves some blame too. To give that toast when he knew kids were present? Trashy.

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For sure it's in poor taste, but I suspect they aren't supposed to be there.

Kids being in adult spaces is complicated everywhere. Like I take family members older kids to the chicken on gameday afternoon, but we're all aware people are drinking and possibly drunk. I don't get upset adults are doing adult things in an adult space.

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Then you modify your toast if kids are present.
They are performers so ad-libbing is not difficult. If it is, they need to practice more.

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I don't think characterizing Catholics or more specifically Catholic leadership as pedophiles is a fair criticism (in spite of significant organized coverups),

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Wow

That is part of your MO

You use your whaboutisms in an attempt to get a rise out of other posters with the end goal being getting threads like this locked and deleted because they get derailed by your efforts.

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No, it's not. I highlight it often as a standard you don't hold yourselves to. BIG difference.

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Yes stereotypes exist, to justify bigotry and other negative attitudes.

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What I was trying to say (and did a poor job of it) was that stereotypes exist because they have some basis in fact. They are perpetuated to justify bigotry and other negative attitudes.

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I don't believe you. You said exactly what you meant in the post I replied to and says plenty about you.

Just a little advice, but you might find yourself considered slightly more credible if you had the first clue about which battles to pick and which to leave alone

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Just a little advice, but you might find yourself considered slightly more credible if you had the first clue about which battles to pick and which to leave alone

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90% of my posts are regarding posters who want to categorize gay people as pedophiles/groomers. That is bull****, but clearly permitted here. If I said (insert racial minority group) was (insert damaging stereotype) can guess how that would go*.

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Well that guy deserves some blame too. To give that toast when he knew kids were present? Trashy.

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For sure it's in poor taste, but I suspect they aren't supposed to be there.

Kids being in adult spaces is complicated everywhere. Like I take family members older kids to the chicken on gameday afternoon, but we're all aware people are drinking and possibly drunk. I don't get upset adults are doing adult things in an adult space.

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Then you modify your toast if kids are present.
They are performers so ad-libbing is not difficult. If it is, they need to practice more.

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Or…here's a better idea.

Don't "perform". Put your damn clothes on and leave all your sexual innuendo at the door if children are present. Absolutely refuse to do anything "drag" in front of children.

But alas…groomers gonna groom and white liberals are gonna white liberal and keep taking their kids.

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Well that guy deserves some blame too. To give that toast when he knew kids were present? Trashy.

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For sure it's in poor taste, but I suspect they aren't supposed to be there.

Kids being in adult spaces is complicated everywhere. Like I take family members older kids to the chicken on gameday afternoon, but we're all aware people are drinking and possibly drunk. I don't get upset adults are doing adult things in an adult space.

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Then you modify your toast if kids are present.
They are performers so ad-libbing is not difficult. If it is, they need to practice more.

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Great, but ignoring completely my post/comment about similar situations.

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Just a little advice, but you might find yourself considered slightly more credible if you had the first clue about which battles to pick and which to leave alone

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90% of my posts are regarding posters who want to categorize gay people as pedophiles/groomers. That is bull****, but clearly permitted here. If I said (insert racial minority group) was (insert damaging stereotype) can guess how that would go*.

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When there is a constant stream of examples being completely inappropriate with children on video, it kind of undermines the "bull****" claim

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Just a little advice, but you might find yourself considered slightly more credible if you had the first clue about which battles to pick and which to leave alone

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90% of my posts are regarding posters who want to categorize gay people as pedophiles/groomers. That is bull****, but clearly permitted here. If I said (insert racial minority group) was (insert damaging stereotype) can guess how that would go*.

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When there is a constant stream of examples being completely inappropriate with children on video, it kind of undermines the "bull****" claim

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This is a drag performance with one presumably gay drag performer, two kids, and a BUNCH of women vaguely classified by the Twitter poster as some kind of all ages event (I strongly suspect it was not).

That is BULL**** to then extrapolate to millions of gay men as groomers or part of a grooming movement - if you don't see that I don't know what to tell you. Again, there are TWO kids in audience - pretty inefficient if grooming is really this drag performer's goal (it wasn't he mentioned right at beginning the kids and seemed at least a bit uncomfortable).

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I don't think characterizing Catholics or more specifically Catholic leadership as pedophiles is a fair criticism (in spite of significant organized coverups),

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That is part of your MO

You use your whaboutisms in an attempt to get a rise out of other posters with the end goal being getting threads like this locked and deleted because they get derailed by your efforts.

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Spot on. Truth is painful.

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I don't think characterizing Catholics or more specifically Catholic leadership as pedophiles is a fair criticism (in spite of significant organized coverups),

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Wow

That is part of your MO

You use your whaboutisms in an attempt to get a rise out of other posters with the end goal being getting threads like this locked and deleted because they get derailed by your efforts.

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Spot on. Truth is painful.

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If you can find ONE post I said Catholics are pedophiles in the same way you and a few others often and casually group gays with groomers/pedophiles I will donate $100 to charitable organization of your choice.

You won't, because it's bs. This is YOUR MO.

Eta: Have to go take care of a few things, but will check back later. Can't wait.

Examples are all over the place. You can fantasize that this is isolated. It most certainly is not.

"This is just one video, guys. Oh wait, here's another and another and another and another…"

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Just a little advice, but you might find yourself considered slightly more credible if you had the first clue about which battles to pick and which to leave alone

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90% of my posts are regarding posters who want to categorize gay people as pedophiles/groomers. That is bull****, but clearly permitted here. If I said (insert racial minority group) was (insert damaging stereotype) can guess how that would go*.

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When there is a constant stream of examples being completely inappropriate with children on video, it kind of undermines the "bull****" claim

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This is a drag performance with one presumably gay drag performer, two kids, and a BUNCH of women vaguely classified by the Twitter poster as some kind of all ages event (I strongly suspect it was not).

That is BULL**** to then extrapolate to millions of gay men as groomers or part of a grooming movement - if you don't see that I don't know what to tell you. Again, there are TWO kids in audience - pretty inefficient if grooming is really this drag performer's goal (it wasn't he mentioned right at beginning the kids and seemed at least a bit uncomfortable). Would be like missionaries going to a 3rd world country and meeting just two people to convince them their way of life for thousands of years is wrong.

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You are perceived as part of the movement because you constantly goaltend and deflect from what should be a no brainer.

Kids scrambling to give money to a guy dressed like a woman who just said "kiss me where I pee"

It's just a hobby my ass.

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I said this was in poor taste early in this thread.

I keep posting because of the ongoing commentary about gays being groomers/pedophiles.

Waiting anxiously for your reply to my post just above this one.

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Wow

That is part of your MO

You use your whaboutisms in an attempt to get a rise out of other posters with the end goal being getting threads like this locked and deleted because they get derailed by your efforts.

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Spot on. Truth is painful.

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If you can find ONE post I said Catholics are pedophiles in the same way you and a few others often and casually group gays with groomers/pedophiles I will donate $100 to charitable organization of your choice.

You won't, because it's bs. This is YOUR MO.

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No need to address your posts to me.

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I don't think characterizing Catholics or more specifically Catholic leadership as pedophiles is a fair criticism (in spite of significant organized coverups),

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That is part of your MO

You use your whaboutisms in an attempt to get a rise out of other posters with the end goal being getting threads like this locked and deleted because they get derailed by your efforts.

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Spot on. Truth is painful.

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If you can find ONE post I said Catholics are pedophiles in the same way you and a few others often and casually group gays with groomers/pedophiles I will donate $100 to charitable organization of your choice.

You won't, because it's bs. This is YOUR MO.

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No need to address your posts to me.

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When someone, like Rockdoc, makes a specious accusation, are challenged by the person you accused WITH a benefit if they can prove something that you say the person is/does so often, and you had nothing that's a reflection on you. You're a liar (a minor commentary compared to the NONSENSE you throw my way).

All that to say nothing. No surprise. So much anger.

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Just like an rated R movie, right?

And as usual, no condemnation from the usual. Simply deflecting to clergy groomers who are outright condemned here all the time. Yet he can't bear to utter a condemnation for these grooming events.

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He can't condemn it. LGBTQ+ are all part and parcel of the same ideology.

As Germain Grisez wrote, "One cannot long adopt certain specific moral precepts without adopting the entire view from which such precepts rise." Evelyn Waugh said much the same thing when asked why there were no good professional proofreaders left in England. "Because", he responded, "clergymen are no longer unfrocked for sodomy." One cannot abandon one standard without affecting all others.

Has it become customary to declare someone a liar when there is a disagreement about the intentions of a post?

Criminalize drag.

I don't believe you. That's my opinion, you shared your opinion on validity of damaging stereotypes about gay people (they are true) and doubled back when called out.

ETA: Re: Rockdoc, he said I do something I do not. He won't prove it, even with a $100 benefit to whatever charity he supports. What would you call him? I'll wait.

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Well that guy deserves some blame too. To give that toast when he knew kids were present? Trashy.

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For sure it's in poor taste, but I suspect they aren't supposed to be there.

Kids being in adult spaces is complicated everywhere. Like I take family members older kids to the chicken on gameday afternoon, but we're all aware people are drinking and possibly drunk. I don't get upset adults are doing adult things in an adult space.

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Then you modify your toast if kids are present.
They are performers so ad-libbing is not difficult. If it is, they need to practice more.

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Great, but ignoring completely my post/comment about similar situations.

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Because tables of drunks are not performers.


I don't care if this is their usual MO, being a performer means reading the room.


Licking the ***** toasts is not reading the room.