TXAGFAN said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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Imagine being told you don't get special treatment and that you don't get to indoctrinate kids, and you view it as oppression.

Go. Get out. You absolutely have a right to exist and pursue your own adult happiness with other consenting adults. You DO NOT have the right to target children and force everyone to assimilate to your preferences.

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Wanting people to treat your kid the same as a kid with a mom and dad isn't special treatment. I don't see anywhere in the article they want to indoctrinate kids either, a popular narrative from the right. They are commenting on the tone towards gay people which is certainly not improving in the last year or two and part of it is fueled by legislation like Florida passed. And they're moving somewhere to improve their situation, something a lot of gay people are considering when I talk to my peers.

Just say how you really feel rather than making things up to justify your viewpoint.

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Who started all of this mess? So the pushback against "your side" wanting to sexualize young children AND take away the voice of 99% of these kid's parents have anything to do with this? Looks like the alphabet mob tried to "progress" a little faster(with the Fed assist) than the general public was ready to take.

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We aren't going to agree. I think this is just the new GOP strategy to amplify fringe voices in LGBT and far left to manufacture a crisis. The message is "working" for a number of reasons except I don't think it's successful long term - the GOP base that votes and prioritizes those sorts of platforms is not a growing one. GOP social platforms IMO are a loser for party.

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lol

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TXAGFAN said:

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Imagine being told you don't get special treatment and that you don't get to indoctrinate kids, and you view it as oppression.

Go. Get out. You absolutely have a right to exist and pursue your own adult happiness with other consenting adults. You DO NOT have the right to target children and force everyone to assimilate to your preferences.

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Wanting people to treat your kid the same as a kid with a mom and dad isn't special treatment. I don't see anywhere in the article they want to indoctrinate kids either, a popular narrative from the right. They are commenting on the tone towards gay people which is certainly not improving in the last year or two and part of it is fueled by legislation like Florida passed. And they're moving somewhere to improve their situation, something a lot of gay people are considering when I talk to my peers.

Just say how you really feel rather than making things up to justify your viewpoint.

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Who started all of this mess? So the pushback against "your side" wanting to sexualize young children AND take away the voice of 99% of these kid's parents have anything to do with this? Looks like the alphabet mob tried to "progress" a little faster(with the Fed assist) than the general public was ready to take.

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We aren't going to agree. I think this is just the new GOP strategy to amplify fringe voices in LGBT and far left to manufacture a crisis. The message is "working" for a number of reasons except I don't think it's successful long term - the GOP base that votes and prioritizes those sorts of platforms is not a growing one. GOP social platforms IMO are a loser for party.

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lol

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Laugh it up. This thread linked below is a PERFECT example of what I'm talking about with conservative posters falling all over themselves to make a sad situation fit the narrative they're being told is THE problem by their leaders.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3358094

I don't understand how anyone can equate anti-gay sentiment with simply not wanting 6 year olds taught about sex of any kind at school. Anyone that is claiming banning sexualizing 6 year olds in school is anti gay with the Florida legislation is doing nothing but linking gays to the pedophilia cause. They shouldn't be related, and the legislation in now way implies that. The fact that the media and certain posters here are insisting they are is concerning.

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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I don't understand how anyone can equate anti-gay sentiment with simply not wanting 6 year olds taught about sex of any kind at school. Anyone that is claiming banning sexualizing 6 year olds in school is anti gay with the Florida legislation is doing nothing but linking gays to the pedophilia cause. They shouldn't be related, and the legislation in now way implies that. The fact that the media and certain posters here are insisting they are is concerning.

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You just don't have that hard core "I'm a perpetual victim" mentality and don't think it's always about you.

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I don't understand how anyone can equate anti-gay sentiment with simply not wanting 6 year olds taught about sex of any kind at school. Anyone that is claiming banning sexualizing 6 year olds in school is anti gay with the Florida legislation is doing nothing but linking gays to the pedophilia cause. They shouldn't be related, and the legislation in now way implies that. The fact that the media and certain posters here are insisting they are is concerning.

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You're not paying attention to the larger narrative.

I don't have an issue with the FINAL passed Florida legislation though I find it completely unnecessary pandering and think it has impacts I wouldn't possibly expect a straight person to appreciate.

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I don't understand how anyone can equate anti-gay sentiment with simply not wanting 6 year olds taught about sex of any kind at school. Anyone that is claiming banning sexualizing 6 year olds in school is anti gay with the Florida legislation is doing nothing but linking gays to the pedophilia cause. They shouldn't be related, and the legislation in now way implies that. The fact that the media and certain posters here are insisting they are is concerning.

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You just don't have that hard core "I'm a perpetual victim" mentality and don't think it's always about you.

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more victim commentary, broken record nonsense. Go read that thread I linked a few posts above and come back and tell me with a straight face there isn't a push by conservatives to attach gay people at large with pedophilia/grooming.

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I don't understand how anyone can equate anti-gay sentiment with simply not wanting 6 year olds taught about sex of any kind at school. Anyone that is claiming banning sexualizing 6 year olds in school is anti gay with the Florida legislation is doing nothing but linking gays to the pedophilia cause. They shouldn't be related, and the legislation in now way implies that. The fact that the media and certain posters here are insisting they are is concerning.

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You're not paying attention to the larger narrative.

I don't have an issue with the FINAL passed Florida legislation though I find it completely unnecessary pandering and think it has impacts I wouldn't possibly expect a straight person to appreciate.

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You did though. You have argued it's harmful to gay people in just about every single thread discussing it. Even when shown the text of the bill. The constant arguing even when shown you were 100% wrong about it is what is creating the narrative.

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TXAGFAN said:

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TXAGFAN said:

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Imagine being told you don't get special treatment and that you don't get to indoctrinate kids, and you view it as oppression.

Go. Get out. You absolutely have a right to exist and pursue your own adult happiness with other consenting adults. You DO NOT have the right to target children and force everyone to assimilate to your preferences.

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Wanting people to treat your kid the same as a kid with a mom and dad isn't special treatment. I don't see anywhere in the article they want to indoctrinate kids either, a popular narrative from the right. They are commenting on the tone towards gay people which is certainly not improving in the last year or two and part of it is fueled by legislation like Florida passed. And they're moving somewhere to improve their situation, something a lot of gay people are considering when I talk to my peers.

Just say how you really feel rather than making things up to justify your viewpoint.

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Who started all of this mess? So the pushback against "your side" wanting to sexualize young children AND take away the voice of 99% of these kid's parents have anything to do with this? Looks like the alphabet mob tried to "progress" a little faster(with the Fed assist) than the general public was ready to take.

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We aren't going to agree. I think this is just the new GOP strategy to amplify fringe voices in LGBT and far left to manufacture a crisis. The message is "working" for a number of reasons except I don't think it's successful long term - the GOP base that votes and prioritizes those sorts of platforms is not a growing one. GOP social platforms IMO are a loser for party.

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lol

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Laugh it up. This thread linked below is a PERFECT example of what I'm talking about with conservative posters falling all over themselves to make a sad situation fit the narrative they're being told is THE problem by their leaders.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3358094

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LMAO

TXAGFAN said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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Imagine being told you don't get special treatment and that you don't get to indoctrinate kids, and you view it as oppression.

Go. Get out. You absolutely have a right to exist and pursue your own adult happiness with other consenting adults. You DO NOT have the right to target children and force everyone to assimilate to your preferences.

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Wanting people to treat your kid the same as a kid with a mom and dad isn't special treatment. I don't see anywhere in the article they want to indoctrinate kids either, a popular narrative from the right. They are commenting on the tone towards gay people which is certainly not improving in the last year or two and part of it is fueled by legislation like Florida passed. And they're moving somewhere to improve their situation, something a lot of gay people are considering when I talk to my peers.

Just say how you really feel rather than making things up to justify your viewpoint.

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One thought. Could it be a reaction by people whose children have been exposed to sexual instruction in elementary school by teachers taking it upon itself because they "know better than parents". The tone you speak of may be to the tone the LBGQ community has used to force inappropriate instruction in schools towards young impressionable children.

Parents want the educational system to stop this inappropriate instruction of young children and react in opposition.

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I don't understand how anyone can equate anti-gay sentiment with simply not wanting 6 year olds taught about sex of any kind at school. Anyone that is claiming banning sexualizing 6 year olds in school is anti gay with the Florida legislation is doing nothing but linking gays to the pedophilia cause. They shouldn't be related, and the legislation in now way implies that. The fact that the media and certain posters here are insisting they are is concerning.

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You just don't have that hard core "I'm a perpetual victim" mentality and don't think it's always about you.

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more victim commentary, broken record nonsense. Go read that thread I linked a few posts above and come back and tell me with a straight face there isn't a push by conservatives to attach gay people at large with pedophilia/grooming.

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I'm answering the post above mine. Why would you answer my post in such a broken record way……….I wonder?

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I don't understand how anyone can equate anti-gay sentiment with simply not wanting 6 year olds taught about sex of any kind at school. Anyone that is claiming banning sexualizing 6 year olds in school is anti gay with the Florida legislation is doing nothing but linking gays to the pedophilia cause. They shouldn't be related, and the legislation in now way implies that. The fact that the media and certain posters here are insisting they are is concerning.

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You just don't have that hard core "I'm a perpetual victim" mentality and don't think it's always about you.

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more victim commentary, broken record nonsense. .

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You know how to stop the "nonsense"? Quit acting like a victim on almost every post.

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"Our tax dollars go to fund public schools, and we have elected leaders who are working against us. Now, the public is being pushed to anger … they don't want to understand people who are different," Letshert said.

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Other people's tax dollars also go to fund public schools, people who don't necessarily agree with you. Coincidently, those same people elected these leaders.

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I don't understand how anyone can equate anti-gay sentiment with simply not wanting 6 year olds taught about sex of any kind at school. Anyone that is claiming banning sexualizing 6 year olds in school is anti gay with the Florida legislation is doing nothing but linking gays to the pedophilia cause. They shouldn't be related, and the legislation in now way implies that. The fact that the media and certain posters here are insisting they are is concerning.

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You're not paying attention to the larger narrative.

I don't have an issue with the FINAL passed Florida legislation though I find it completely unnecessary pandering and think it has impacts I wouldn't possibly expect a straight person to appreciate.

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You did though. You have argued it's harmful to gay people in just about every single thread discussing it. Even when shown the text of the bill. The constant arguing even when shown you were 100% wrong about it is what is creating the narrative.

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Did you read my posts? Clearly you did not.

Our nation has become a nation of perpetual whiners...
If your going to move just do it... Stop whining about it!

TXAGFAN said:

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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I don't understand how anyone can equate anti-gay sentiment with simply not wanting 6 year olds taught about sex of any kind at school. Anyone that is claiming banning sexualizing 6 year olds in school is anti gay with the Florida legislation is doing nothing but linking gays to the pedophilia cause. They shouldn't be related, and the legislation in now way implies that. The fact that the media and certain posters here are insisting they are is concerning.

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You're not paying attention to the larger narrative.

I don't have an issue with the FINAL passed Florida legislation though I find it completely unnecessary pandering and think it has impacts I wouldn't possibly expect a straight person to appreciate.

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You did though. You have argued it's harmful to gay people in just about every single thread discussing it. Even when shown the text of the bill. The constant arguing even when shown you were 100% wrong about it is what is creating the narrative.

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Did you read my posts? Clearly you did not.

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Yes I have. You have been arguing the Florida bill is harmful to gay people in every single thread.

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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I don't understand how anyone can equate anti-gay sentiment with simply not wanting 6 year olds taught about sex of any kind at school. Anyone that is claiming banning sexualizing 6 year olds in school is anti gay with the Florida legislation is doing nothing but linking gays to the pedophilia cause. They shouldn't be related, and the legislation in now way implies that. The fact that the media and certain posters here are insisting they are is concerning.

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You're not paying attention to the larger narrative.

I don't have an issue with the FINAL passed Florida legislation though I find it completely unnecessary pandering and think it has impacts I wouldn't possibly expect a straight person to appreciate.

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You did though. You have argued it's harmful to gay people in just about every single thread discussing it. Even when shown the text of the bill. The constant arguing even when shown you were 100% wrong about it is what is creating the narrative.

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Did you read my posts? Clearly you did not.

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Yes I have. You have been arguing the Florida bill is harmful to gay people in every single thread.

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And the thread I linked where several posters immediately wanted to make the Prosper ISD board president a gay pedophile because that's what their politicians/heroes say is happening - that doesn't demonstrate the harm I have posted about? I know the organized groups associated with pedophilia coverups HATE when that narrative is posted here (though major difference is their organizations were actively engaged in it). Weirdly THAT commentary is not allowed, but generalizations about gay people (no group, not a coverup) are.

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ETA: You've probably had gay employees as well you had no idea about. The number of people who aren't out at work is higher than you think.

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I much prefer it this way. Then, hopefully we can actually focus on work and get away from having to waste a month celebrating the lifestyle choice of a small group of people. Most people don't care if their fellow co-worker has made the gay choice. They just want to work, make money, and not have this garbage forced on them and move on down the road.

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ETA: You've probably had gay employees as well you had no idea about. The number of people who aren't out at work is higher than you think.

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I much prefer it this way. Then, hopefully we can actually focus on work and get away from having to waste a month celebrating the lifestyle choice of a small group of people. Most people don't care if their fellow co-worker has made the gay choice. They just want to work, make money, and not have this garbage forced on them and move on down the road.

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You don't have photos of your family in office? Give me a break, my existence isn't offensive.

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ETA: You've probably had gay employees as well you had no idea about. The number of people who aren't out at work is higher than you think.

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I much prefer it this way. Then, hopefully we can actually focus on work and get away from having to waste a month celebrating the lifestyle choice of a small group of people. Most people don't care if their fellow co-worker has made the gay choice. They just want to work, make money, and not have this garbage forced on them and move on down the road.

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You don't have photos of your family in office? Give me a break, my existence isn't offensive.

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It has nothing to do with your existence or a photo on your desk. Just don't push your perverse lifestyle choice on others in the workplace, which causes more issues than not when that actually happens. As soon as June 1 hits and the woke company emails start arriving in the inbox, I hit delete just as fast.

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ETA: You've probably had gay employees as well you had no idea about. The number of people who aren't out at work is higher than you think.

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I much prefer it this way. Then, hopefully we can actually focus on work and get away from having to waste a month celebrating the lifestyle choice of a small group of people. Most people don't care if their fellow co-worker has made the gay choice. They just want to work, make money, and not have this garbage forced on them and move on down the road.

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You don't have photos of your family in office? Give me a break, my existence isn't offensive.

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It has nothing to do with your existence or a photo on your desk. Just don't push your perverse lifestyle choice on others in the workplace, which causes more issues than not when that actually happens. As soon as June 1 hits and the woke company emails start arriving in the inbox, I hit delete just as fast.

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You literally just posted you prefer we stay in closet.

If you have a problem with your company - find a new job.

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We aren't going to agree. I think this is just the new GOP strategy to amplify fringe voices in LGBT and far left to manufacture a crisis. The message is "working" for a number of reasons except I don't think it's successful long term - the GOP base that votes and prioritizes those sorts of platforms is not a growing one. GOP social platforms IMO are a loser for party.

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Those so called "GOP social platforms" are the only reason those "fringe" elements are still fringe. If the GOP didn't oppose them then they would be mainstream. Maybe they're a loser in your mind but not for those who still value decency.

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Im talking about votes, you know how you win elections?

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Follow the DeSantis strategy. Seems to be working.

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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I don't understand how anyone can equate anti-gay sentiment with simply not wanting 6 year olds taught about sex of any kind at school. Anyone that is claiming banning sexualizing 6 year olds in school is anti gay with the Florida legislation is doing nothing but linking gays to the pedophilia cause. They shouldn't be related, and the legislation in now way implies that. The fact that the media and certain posters here are insisting they are is concerning.

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You're not paying attention to the larger narrative.

I don't have an issue with the FINAL passed Florida legislation though I find it completely unnecessary pandering and think it has impacts I wouldn't possibly expect a straight person to appreciate.

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You did though. You have argued it's harmful to gay people in just about every single thread discussing it. Even when shown the text of the bill. The constant arguing even when shown you were 100% wrong about it is what is creating the narrative.

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Did you read my posts? Clearly you did not.

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Yes I have. You have been arguing the Florida bill is harmful to gay people in every single thread.

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And the thread I linked where several posters immediately wanted to make the Prosper ISD board president a gay pedophile because that's what their politicians/heroes say is happening - that doesn't demonstrate the harm I have posted about? I know the organized groups associated with pedophilia coverups HATE when that narrative is posted here (though major difference is their organizations were actively engaged in it). Weirdly THAT commentary is not allowed, but generalizations about gay people (no group, not a coverup) are.

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That's not right either. But it has nothing to do with the Florida bill, and how claiming it is harmful to gay people is just making people think gays are ok with defending sexualizing children. So please stop derailing.

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Kids calling each other "weird" and teasing and bullying for just about any stupid reason kids can think of isn't unique to Florida.

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I'm sure their issue is that the school didn't immediately expel the kid that called their precious child weird.

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the apolitical sports talk radio evening show on WJFK The Fan were talking on my drive Wednesday about how their kids are no longer allowed to play "organized" sports during recess in elementary school

because Fairfax County deems it too dangerous and that kids are getting into fights over the score

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Imagine being told you don't get special treatment and that you don't get to indoctrinate kids, and you view it as oppression.

Go. Get out. You absolutely have a right to exist and pursue your own adult happiness with other consenting adults. You DO NOT have the right to target children and force everyone to assimilate to your preferences.

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Wanting people to treat your kid the same as a kid with a mom and dad isn't special treatment. I don't see anywhere in the article they want to indoctrinate kids either, a popular narrative from the right. They are commenting on the tone towards gay people which is certainly not improving in the last year or two and part of it is fueled by legislation like Florida passed. And they're moving somewhere to improve their situation, something a lot of gay people are considering when I talk to my peers.

Just say how you really feel rather than making things up to justify your viewpoint.

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So social pressure between kids reflects biological norms? It's going to be that way without imposing and maintaining, indefinitely, some sort of indoctrination regime in the schools. They may not be consciously asking for special treatment but special treatment is indeed what it's going to take to be able to live such a non-conforming lifestyle and not have your children thought of as "weird" by their classmates.

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My bigger issue with the post I replied to was the default assumption gay people, like this couple, are trying to indoctrinate your kids - you know the new GOP narrative.

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ETA: You've probably had gay employees as well you had no idea about. The number of people who aren't out at work is higher than you think.

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I much prefer it this way. Then, hopefully we can actually focus on work and get away from having to waste a month celebrating the lifestyle choice of a small group of people. Most people don't care if their fellow co-worker has made the gay choice. They just want to work, make money, and not have this garbage forced on them and move on down the road.

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You don't have photos of your family in office? Give me a break, my existence isn't offensive.

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It has nothing to do with your existence or a photo on your desk. Just don't push your perverse lifestyle choice on others in the workplace, which causes more issues than not when that actually happens. As soon as June 1 hits and the woke company emails start arriving in the inbox, I hit delete just as fast.

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You literally just posted you prefer we stay in closet.

If you have a problem with your company - find a new job.

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SMH......you still exist whether you stay in the closet or not, right? Your actual existence is not the issue.

How to know to stop reading:

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ETA: You've probably had gay employees as well you had no idea about. The number of people who aren't out at work is higher than you think.

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I much prefer it this way. Then, hopefully we can actually focus on work and get away from having to waste a month celebrating the lifestyle choice of a small group of people. Most people don't care if their fellow co-worker has made the gay choice. They just want to work, make money, and not have this garbage forced on them and move on down the road.

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You don't have photos of your family in office? Give me a break, my existence isn't offensive.

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Your existence isn't.

Your need to tell everybody how wrong they are at every turn, to marginalize any issue as "just dumb conservatives being dumb and scared" or whatever, etc. is though. Nobody gives a F if you are gay, you do whatever you want to do in your home and with your friends, etc. What people get really tired of is being told that if we don't agree with that lifestyle that we are bigots and gay-o-phobes or whatever and then seeing you go out of your way to ensure everybody knows you were somehow offended and picked on and in your mind threatened. Defending deviant behavior at every chance simply because you think you need to and because us dumb ole conservatives are just too stupid to see that drag shows in kindergarten are somehow in your mind no big deal and parents need to sit down and STFU about it. That is what is offensive.

The fact that you have a husband doesn't bother a single person on here. What you two do in your bedroom doesn't bother a single person on here. Making every single thing about you and you being a perpetual victim and telling folks who are more traditional in their lifestyles that they are stupid and bigots does bother people, just like the few outspoken "gays are going to hell!" types understandably bother you. Problem is you just can't bring yourself to see that you do the same thing, just on the other side of the coin. Because in your mind, you are always right and everybody else is dumb and wrong.

It's not a hard concept.

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ETA: You've probably had gay employees as well you had no idea about. The number of people who aren't out at work is higher than you think.

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I much prefer it this way. Then, hopefully we can actually focus on work and get away from having to waste a month celebrating the lifestyle choice of a small group of people. Most people don't care if their fellow co-worker has made the gay choice. They just want to work, make money, and not have this garbage forced on them and move on down the road.

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You don't have photos of your family in office? Give me a break, my existence isn't offensive.

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Your existence isn't.

Your need to tell everybody how wrong they are at every turn, to marginalize any issue as "just dumb conservatives being dumb and scared" or whatever, etc. is though. Nobody gives a F if you are gay, you do whatever you want to do in your home and with your friends, etc. What people get really tired of is being told that if we don't agree with that lifestyle that we are bigots and gay-o-phobes or whatever and then seeing you go out of your way to ensure everybody knows you were somehow offended and picked on and in your mind threatened. Defending deviant behavior at every chance simply because you think you need to and because us dumb ole conservatives are just too stupid to see that drag shows in kindergarten are somehow in your mind no big deal and parents need to sit down and STFU about it. That is what is offensive.

The fact that you have a husband doesn't bother a single person on here. What you two do in your bedroom doesn't bother a single person on here. Making every single thing about you and you being a perpetual victim and telling folks who are more traditional in their lifestyles that they are stupid and bigots does bother people, just like the few outspoken "gays are going to hell!" types understandably bother you. Problem is you just can't bring yourself to see that you do the same thing, just on the other side of the coin. Because in your mind, you are always right and everybody else is dumb and wrong.

It's not a hard concept.

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Who's supporting drag in kindergarten in this thread? Did I support that? No. But like I posted many times, just make it up - who's going to call you out for your ____.

I don't defend EVERYTHING either, don't be hyperbolic. It makes you into a liar.

Believe whatever you want, but if you default to some of the attitudes about gay people (ie not just that you disagree with who they love, but they are pedophiles/groomers) I've posted here in last few posts then you are what you posted yourself.

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Waffledynamics said:

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Imagine being told you don't get special treatment and that you don't get to indoctrinate kids, and you view it as oppression.

Go. Get out. You absolutely have a right to exist and pursue your own adult happiness with other consenting adults. You DO NOT have the right to target children and force everyone to assimilate to your preferences.

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Wanting people to treat your kid the same as a kid with a mom and dad isn't special treatment. I don't see anywhere in the article they want to indoctrinate kids either, a popular narrative from the right. They are commenting on the tone towards gay people which is certainly not improving in the last year or two and part of it is fueled by legislation like Florida passed. And they're moving somewhere to improve their situation, something a lot of gay people are considering when I talk to my peers.

Just say how you really feel rather than making things up to justify your viewpoint.

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So social pressure between kids reflects biological norms? It's going to be that way without imposing and maintaining, indefinitely, some sort of indoctrination regime in the schools. They may not be consciously asking for special treatment but special treatment is indeed what it's going to take to be able to live such a non-conforming lifestyle and not have your children thought of as "weird" by their classmates.

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My bigger issue with the post I replied to was the default assumption gay people, like this couple, are trying to indoctrinate your kids - you know the new GOP narrative.

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It's subversive. The fact that they "married", adopted a child, or used some combination of IVF and surrogacy, which is evil in and of itself, is a problem for me. Then "their" kid who is now effectively a prop, goes to school with my kids and talks about his 2 dads as a point of pride. And the adults are made to teach the virtues of having two dads because otherwise someone's feelings get hurt. And if I teach my children that is not good or normal, then I'm a bigot. If I don't believe that homosexual relationships are equal in value to a unitive marriage naturally ordered toward the procreation and education of children, then we've got a problem all of a sudden. And this has just happened in a matter of 20 years or less.

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I don't defend EVERYTHING either, don't be hyperbolic. It makes you into a liar.

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You pretty much do. Or you point your fingers trying to shift blame if what is being discussed is reprehensible.

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Imagine being told you don't get special treatment and that you don't get to indoctrinate kids, and you view it as oppression.

Go. Get out. You absolutely have a right to exist and pursue your own adult happiness with other consenting adults. You DO NOT have the right to target children and force everyone to assimilate to your preferences.

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Wanting people to treat your kid the same as a kid with a mom and dad isn't special treatment. I don't see anywhere in the article they want to indoctrinate kids either, a popular narrative from the right. They are commenting on the tone towards gay people which is certainly not improving in the last year or two and part of it is fueled by legislation like Florida passed. And they're moving somewhere to improve their situation, something a lot of gay people are considering when I talk to my peers.

Just say how you really feel rather than making things up to justify your viewpoint.

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So social pressure between kids reflects biological norms? It's going to be that way without imposing and maintaining, indefinitely, some sort of indoctrination regime in the schools. They may not be consciously asking for special treatment but special treatment is indeed what it's going to take to be able to live such a non-conforming lifestyle and not have your children thought of as "weird" by their classmates.

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My bigger issue with the post I replied to was the default assumption gay people, like this couple, are trying to indoctrinate your kids - you know the new GOP narrative.

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Perfect example if how you operate.

Accuse somebody of being hyperbolic when they make a fairly generalized statement, but you make these statements and act as if you are superior to everybody else in the process.

Something something double standard here.