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"It's getting harder and harder to stay. The discrimination and the hate have gotten so in-your-face," Letschert said. "There have been events we've gone to with our son, and we have looked at each other and asked, 'Should we be here?' "....

"That Parental Rights bill was the most disheartening because we're parents, too," Price said. "Every night we hope that things will change here, but at this point, it literally feels like we are fleeing persecution."

In early summer 2022, the family reached a turning point after learning of a playtime interaction at Kellan's summer camp in Sarasota. Kellan's parents say he proudly described his family and his two dads to another child his age, but was met with negativity. Kellan was later called "weird" by the child, prompting Letschert and Price to speak with the camp leaders.

That was when they decided it was best to relocate.

"Kellan talks so openly about our family. He has a huge personality, he is so bright and outgoing … We don't want his light to be dimmed by people that don't even know him and judge him because of who we are," Price said.

By the middle of July, the family had visited two cities in the Pacific Northwest and made an impromptu trip to Vancouver, British Columbia, in Canada in search of the right place. None were the right fit, they said, so Kellan was re-enrolled into his Sarasota independent school.

When they returned, they felt a growing concern about staying in Sarasota and for the safety of their son after local elections and what Letschert called political overreach, a reference to the election of a slate of conservative candidates that shifted the balance of policy-making power on the Sarasota County School Board.

"Our tax dollars go to fund public schools, and we have elected leaders who are working against us. Now, the public is being pushed to anger … they don't want to understand people who are different," Letshert said.

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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lgbtq-families-mull-leaving-florida-090014914.html?guccounter=1

It would be ideal if the left had their own country

Awesome

Gtfo

Cali & NY would love to have you

What is this going to do to South Beach and Key West ?

Get the **** out

All 3,000 of them

AGHouston11 said:

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It would be ideal if the left had their own country

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It's pronounced Chyna

Kids calling each other "weird" and teasing and bullying for just about any stupid reason kids can think of isn't unique to Florida.

Can we get a Gofundme going to expedite their departure

"By the middle of July, the family had visited two cities in the Pacific Northwest and made an impromptu trip to Vancouver, British Columbia, in Canada in search of the right place. None were the right fit, they said, so Kellan was re-enrolled into his Sarasota independent school."


Translation: "A move to an enclave to support us would be expensive. So if we stay and enroll our kid in a school system we have already claimed threatened in, any incident whatsoever would open the doors to a lawsuit that would facilitate us financially to be able to make the move we want, garnering us media sympathy points and more useful idiots throwing money our way so we could enjoy ourselves in our new home area, once we get there."

'LGBTQ+ families' - lol there's a new definition of an oxymoron. Perhaps it's more of a paradox.

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Kids calling each other "weird" and teasing and bullying for just about any stupid reason kids can think of isn't unique to Florida.

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I'm sure their issue is that the school didn't immediately expel the kid that called their precious child weird.

It's OK guys. Straight people sometimes have weird kids, too.

Cry me a River. Can't get special treatment and the right to bully and intimidate others with the protection of big brother and the woke mob? People are supposed to get fair and equal treatment, not politically correct selective privileged treatment. Nobody wants to oppress people, they also don't want to be forced to approve of that with which they disagree.

Imagine being told you don't get special treatment and that you don't get to indoctrinate kids, and you view it as oppression.

Go. Get out. You absolutely have a right to exist and pursue your own adult happiness with other consenting adults. You DO NOT have the right to target children and force everyone to assimilate to your preferences.

Waffledynamics said:

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Imagine being told you don't get special treatment and that you don't get to indoctrinate kids, and you view it as oppression.

Go. Get out. You absolutely have a right to exist and pursue your own adult happiness with other consenting adults. You DO NOT have the right to target children and force everyone to assimilate to your preferences.

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Wanting people to treat your kid the same as a kid with a mom and dad isn't special treatment. I don't see anywhere in the article they want to indoctrinate kids either, a popular narrative from the right. They are commenting on the tone towards gay people which is certainly not improving in the last year or two and part of it is fueled by legislation like Florida passed. And they're moving somewhere to improve their situation, something a lot of gay people are considering when I talk to my peers.

Just say how you really feel rather than making things up to justify your viewpoint.

Is there anything you dont twist to whatever narrative you want to see?

"Wanting people to treat your kid the same as a kid with a mom and dad isn't special treatment."

I'm going to go out a limb here and say this probably has very little to do with "their" kid.

Demanding that the rules of nature (established by either God and/or billions of years of evolution) bend to your whim seems to be a great definition of "special treatment."

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Waffledynamics said:

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Imagine being told you don't get special treatment and that you don't get to indoctrinate kids, and you view it as oppression.

Go. Get out. You absolutely have a right to exist and pursue your own adult happiness with other consenting adults. You DO NOT have the right to target children and force everyone to assimilate to your preferences.

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Wanting people to treat your kid the same as a kid with a mom and dad isn't special treatment.

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You know good and well that's not what this is about.

TXAGFAN said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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Imagine being told you don't get special treatment and that you don't get to indoctrinate kids, and you view it as oppression.

Go. Get out. You absolutely have a right to exist and pursue your own adult happiness with other consenting adults. You DO NOT have the right to target children and force everyone to assimilate to your preferences.

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Wanting people to treat your kid the same as a kid with a mom and dad isn't special treatment. I don't see anywhere in the article they want to indoctrinate kids either, a popular narrative from the right. They are commenting on the tone towards gay people which is certainly not improving in the last year or two and part of it is fueled by legislation like Florida passed. And they're moving somewhere to improve their situation, something a lot of gay people are considering when I talk to my peers.

Just say how you really feel rather than making things up to justify your viewpoint.

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You're the king of making things up.

The article didn't describe anything regarding any "tone towards gay people" other than the kid ALLEGEDLY being called weird. For one thing, assuming it did happen, we have no idea if it was due to any issue regarding LGBTxyz. Hell, you want to know how many times I was called weird (and worse) growing up? For that matter, you want to know what I'm routinely called now in some of my activities? Its far worse than "weird."

For another, again assuming the allegation is true, the people doing the name calling are totally unaware of any Florida legislation and are in no way motivated by it. You're making that up because you don't like it and are looking for any reason to diss it.

I'm constantly on here correcting you and you continue to be one of the most dishonest posters I've encountered in the 20 years I've been on here. You also always seem to run and hide after I post. You're the one that needs to take your own advice in terms of your last sentence.

To the extent gays are leaving Florida, they're doing so because they're LEFTISTS and they don't like the way the way the state is moving towards conservatism. That's fine -- they have the right to their own opinion and the right to act on it. But neither they nor you have the right to their own set of facts.

GOOD! Get out! Vote with your feet the way the country was founded. Go to a state that has your values.

Calf. will pay for the move.

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TXAGFAN said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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Imagine being told you don't get special treatment and that you don't get to indoctrinate kids, and you view it as oppression.

Go. Get out. You absolutely have a right to exist and pursue your own adult happiness with other consenting adults. You DO NOT have the right to target children and force everyone to assimilate to your preferences.

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Wanting people to treat your kid the same as a kid with a mom and dad isn't special treatment. I don't see anywhere in the article they want to indoctrinate kids either, a popular narrative from the right. They are commenting on the tone towards gay people which is certainly not improving in the last year or two and part of it is fueled by legislation like Florida passed. And they're moving somewhere to improve their situation, something a lot of gay people are considering when I talk to my peers.

Just say how you really feel rather than making things up to justify your viewpoint.

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You're the king of making things up.

The article didn't describe anything regarding any "tone towards gay people" other than the kid ALLEGEDLY being called weird. For one thing, assuming it did happen, we have no idea if it was due to any issue regarding LGBTxyz. Hell, you want to know how many times I was called weird (and worse) growing up? For that matter, you want to know what I'm routinely called now in some of my activities? Its far worse than "weird."

For another, again assuming the allegation is true, the people doing the name calling are totally unaware of any Florida legislation and are in no way motivated by it. You're making that up because you don't like it and are looking for any reason to diss it.

I'm constantly on here correcting you and you continue to be one of the most dishonest posters I've encountered in the 20 years I've been on here. You also always seem to run and hide after I post. You're the one that needs to take your own advice in terms of your last sentence.

To the extent gays are leaving Florida, they're doing so because they're LEFTISTS and they don't like the way the way the state is moving towards conservatism. That's fine -- they have the right to their own opinion and the right to act on it. But neither they nor you have the right to their own set of facts.

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1) No need to correct me, I'm not wrong.
2) RE: Tone, that's just a word and I could have used others. They are moving because they dislike the tone/environment/political climate in Florida.
3) Don't tell me things haven't changed, i see it every day.

I don't run and hide - I've been banned quite a few times. My last ban was for saying someone "felt smart" for making a factually incorrect post and then doubling down on their error. See far worse here, but that's the rules I guess.

What if the kid is just weird?

bmks270 said:

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Kids calling each other "weird" and teasing and bullying for just about any stupid reason kids can think of isn't unique to Florida.

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Just happened to us today. My 14 year old got named in a complaint filed by a kid who is an openly gay 8th grader, along with 12 other boys, all who happen to be football players who this kid seems to have an obsession with taunting and antagonizing with gay ***** Said kid spends about as much time in detention as normal class for all kinds of behavior problems already and regularly openly insults teachers and staff. My wife actually works at this school and is well aware of his BS.

SIgh.

I have a gay male cousin that is simply impossible to have any relationship with because of the same BS. He literally cussed the family out at his mother's funeral some 10+ years ago for "reasons" I guess. He faked having HIV for 10 years and then finally came out that he is not in fact dying.

My wife has a gay male cousin that I literally banned from our household at one point for his dramatic BS but has since got his sh** together and is welcome again. But same thing, uber drama all the time but he seems to be maturing (I mean he is almost 50 now).

I've dealt with gay males in the work place for a couple of decades and I would rate them as the single most difficult demographic to manage because literally everything is "about them" and their "lifestyle". Lesbians, by contrast, I have had some drama with but most seem pretty squared away in my experience.

Sorry/not sorry. I was in line management for 20+ years before pulling the ripcord to just run my own business, support my wife in her new career after being a stay at home mom, and manage our investments. Gay dudes were the worst to manage in terms of self inflicted drama. I managed lay offs at a global Fortune 100 and me and my peers would just cringe at the thought of notifying a gay male he was losing his job. It was high drama on steroids.

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"It's getting harder and harder to stay. The discrimination and the hate have gotten so in-your-face," Letschert said. "There have been events we've gone to with our son, and we have looked at each other and asked, 'Should we be here?' "....

"That Parental Rights bill was the most disheartening because we're parents, too," Price said. "Every night we hope that things will change here, but at this point, it literally feels like we are fleeing persecution."

In early summer 2022, the family reached a turning point after learning of a playtime interaction at Kellan's summer camp in Sarasota. Kellan's parents say he proudly described his family and his two dads to another child his age, but was met with negativity. Kellan was later called "weird" by the child, prompting Letschert and Price to speak with the camp leaders.

That was when they decided it was best to relocate.

"Kellan talks so openly about our family. He has a huge personality, he is so bright and outgoing … We don't want his light to be dimmed by people that don't even know him and judge him because of who we are," Price said.

By the middle of July, the family had visited two cities in the Pacific Northwest and made an impromptu trip to Vancouver, British Columbia, in Canada in search of the right place. None were the right fit, they said, so Kellan was re-enrolled into his Sarasota independent school.

When they returned, they felt a growing concern about staying in Sarasota and for the safety of their son after local elections and what Letschert called political overreach, a reference to the election of a slate of conservative candidates that shifted the balance of policy-making power on the Sarasota County School Board.

"Our tax dollars go to fund public schools, and we have elected leaders who are working against us. Now, the public is being pushed to anger … they don't want to understand people who are different," Letshert said.

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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lgbtq-families-mull-leaving-florida-090014914.html?guccounter=1

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I live close to Florida. I approve these 'families' leaving.

I am simply not seeing this. I teach high school in a DEEP red county outside of Orlando. We have several gay males, a couple of trans kids, and lots of lesbians (it seems like lesbianism is contagious). From what I've seen…no one cares. The kids for the most part leave each other alone, and the teachers really don't give a rip about some teenager's sexuality.

In my experience, this is a bunch of overblown crap as people look to build their victimhood.

Amazing that a group that needs incessant attention has to go somewhere else when the attention mechanisms aren't going to be as easy to manipulate.

It's a myth. This is propaganda, as per usual on this topic. I read a piece/tweet or something last week about how other gay parents were in fact not (considering) leaving, but that's not an attention grabbing leftist talking point.

Not gonna dig it out/debate it, I just don't believe any of this drivel.

nortex97 said:

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It's a myth. This is propaganda, as per usual on this topic. I read a piece/tweet or something last week about how other gay parents were in fact not (considering) leaving, but that's not an attention grabbing leftist talking point.

Not gonna dig it out/debate it, I just don't believe any of this drivel.

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I don't either!

Like Texas, Florida is one of the states with the greatest domestic immigration. There may be people leaving for one reason or another, but there are many more showing up every day. I'm sure they're not all straight.

Attention people: If you do not ever want to have your child picked on by another child, DO NOT HAVE KIDS. Every child ever born was picked on at some point.