TxAgPreacher said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

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He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

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MAGA

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Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

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America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

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You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

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Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

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He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

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MAGA

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Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

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America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

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You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

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Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

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Again, I don't think any of us here expect the USA to return to a policy stance that we talk about. This country is likely toast. Smaller nations will raise from the ashes and these will likely be a lot more homogenous, both racially and ideologically. It is in these nation states where the ideas being proposed here would take effect.

aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

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He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

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MAGA

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Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

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America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

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You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

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Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

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So at worst we wind up pretty much exactly where we are now. I'll take that risk all day.

aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

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He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

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MAGA

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Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

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America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

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You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

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Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

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General Christian morality is what our country was founded on. Our founders explicitly said that. I don't care if you don't like it. Our system is based around a moral and religious(Christian) society. The constitution will not work without those values, and those values don't change. People like Shapiro water down the message.

Now, lets get back on topic.

They offered Crowder less money than he can make on his own, and are trying to get him to not say things that will upset sponsors.

Let's face it...all of our wishes are pipe dreams. F'n depressing.

TxAgPreacher said:

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aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

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He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

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MAGA

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Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

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America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

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You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

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Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

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General Christian morality is what our country was founded on. Our founders explicitly said that. I don't care if you don't like it. Our system is based around a moral and religious(Christian) society. The constitution will not work without those values, and those values don't change. People like Shapiro water down the message.

Now, lets get back on topic.

They offered Crowder less money than he can make on his own, and are trying to get him to not say things that will upset sponsors.

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Yep...this...



I'd say it applies to capitalism or pretty much any system of economics or governance.

The hijackers have ruined this thread.

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The hijackers have ruined this thread.

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Concern noted. I guess we shouldn't discuss politics on a political forum.

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I have watched both and this is all just a negotiation using public sentiment now.

Will be even more interesting if crowder responds with a more conciliatory tone, or says that DW was just an example of the most recent term sheet but he wasn't angry at them alone.

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Nick Rekieta has a pretty good breakdown of Boring's response to Crowder; DW is full of *****

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All I see is an hour and 22 min video on Youtube and I don't want to invest that time without details, can you please summarize?

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Watch on Rumble, don't give YouTube clicks. With that said, Rekeitas stream on Rumble is 4.5 hours, so it's going to take some time to filter through it all and make note of the highlights.

Edit: the discussion starts at around 17:00 in the video below
Edit: The 40 minute mark gets interesting as he starts slicing up Boerings argument.

https://rumble.com/v267shy-daily-wire-responds-to-crowder-on-contracts-part-2-of-townhall-investigatio.html

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Watched the first bit of it. He lost me early when he had came out defending Crowder and admitted he had not watched the video. Then he also was taking the tack that everything Crowder claimed was gospel. The Mug Club discussion was where I stopped because he didn't address that the concern for DW was verification of those subscribers and money which Crowder was very vague about. He also said that Crowder wanted the minimum number at $70 million or more when it appears that number was under $50 million because Boering said that he had to find a way to at least get to his minimum ask.

Just not a fan of him watching the video and commenting in real time when it is such a complicated topic and he started with a clear bias and stated right off the bat things that were not the case based on what happened in the video. Watch the damn video and then do a breakdown. When he throws out his conclusions at the beginning and then tries to make the video he is watching for the first time fit those conclusions it really hampers credibility.

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lol more like blind supporting of DW no matter what they do.

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Sure that's it, just ignore the lengthy arguments. I like and support DW in general but I certainly don't blindly support them. I disagree with many things they do and say but I try to be objective.

You clearly don't listen to them though if you somehow think Shapiro is a fan of gay marriage or that he believed in mandates. He probably was as transparent in following the science as anyone throughout Covid and he was always clear that this should involve personal decisions. He got vaxxed because he had elderly parents he spends a lot of time with but he would not vax his kids and he was outspoken in his opposition to mandates.

I get the neocon argument but it's also insincere. Bill Kristol is a neocon. Shapiro is a guy that really likes Israel and wants the US/Israeli relationship to be strong. That certainly ties in with his faith. He's a bit more pro involvement than I would like but he is definitely not a "let's go to war with everybody" kind of guy or a "America needs to be world cop" kind of guy. On Trump he was NeverTrump to start but gave him a fair shot once he was in office and has praised him when he did things he liked and criticized him when he didn't. He definitely doesn't like Trump's personal insults and stupid behavior, he mainly just wishes Trump would not shoot himself in the foot continually and get so easily distracted. It's not like Shapiro is unusual in that opinion.

In the end every commentator has flaws and things I agree with or disagree with. None are perfect. At least with DW they put real effort into being transparent and they have real skins on the wall in terms of the culture war with a lot of things they have done that weren't a direct money making enterprise for them. Some of their pro life content is as good as I have seen and honestly shifted me even further in that direction.

It's also noteworthy how hard they are still working to be complementary of Crowder through all of this and wish him success. It took a lot of balls for Boering to do that video so quickly and he was very professional in how he handled it.

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RingOfive said:

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The hijackers have ruined this thread.

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Concern noted. I guess we shouldn't discuss politics on a political forum.

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Or maybe you could start a new thread to discuss how much morality should be a part of our governmental structure instead of interjecting that discussion in the middle of one that has nothing to do with it?

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Pookers said:

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RingOfive said:

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The hijackers have ruined this thread.

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Concern noted. I guess we shouldn't discuss politics on a political forum.

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Or maybe you could start a new thread to discuss how much morality should be a part of our governmental structure instead of interjecting that discussion in the middle of one that has nothing to do with it?

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aggie93 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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aggie93 said:

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vansprinkle said:

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aggie93 said:

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Pookers said:

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homebuildingag said:

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I have watched both and this is all just a negotiation using public sentiment now.

Will be even more interesting if crowder responds with a more conciliatory tone, or says that DW was just an example of the most recent term sheet but he wasn't angry at them alone.

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Nick Rekieta has a pretty good breakdown of Boring's response to Crowder; DW is full of *****

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All I see is an hour and 22 min video on Youtube and I don't want to invest that time without details, can you please summarize?

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Watch on Rumble, don't give YouTube clicks. With that said, Rekeitas stream on Rumble is 4.5 hours, so it's going to take some time to filter through it all and make note of the highlights.

Edit: the discussion starts at around 17:00 in the video below
Edit: The 40 minute mark gets interesting as he starts slicing up Boerings argument.

https://rumble.com/v267shy-daily-wire-responds-to-crowder-on-contracts-part-2-of-townhall-investigatio.html

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Watched the first bit of it. He lost me early when he had came out defending Crowder and admitted he had not watched the video. Then he also was taking the tack that everything Crowder claimed was gospel. The Mug Club discussion was where I stopped because he didn't address that the concern for DW was verification of those subscribers and money which Crowder was very vague about. He also said that Crowder wanted the minimum number at $70 million or more when it appears that number was under $50 million because Boering said that he had to find a way to at least get to his minimum ask.

Just not a fan of him watching the video and commenting in real time when it is such a complicated topic and he started with a clear bias and stated right off the bat things that were not the case based on what happened in the video. Watch the damn video and then do a breakdown. When he throws out his conclusions at the beginning and then tries to make the video he is watching for the first time fit those conclusions it really hampers credibility.

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lol more like blind supporting of DW no matter what they do.

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Sure that's it, just ignore the lengthy arguments. I like and support DW in general but I certainly don't blindly support them. I disagree with many things they do and say but I try to be objective.

You clearly don't listen to them though if you somehow think Shapiro is a fan of gay marriage or that he believed in mandates. He probably was as transparent in following the science as anyone throughout Covid and he was always clear that this should involve personal decisions. He got vaxxed because he had elderly parents he spends a lot of time with but he would not vax his kids and he was outspoken in his opposition to mandates.

I get the neocon argument but it's also insincere. Bill Kristol is a neocon. Shapiro is a guy that really likes Israel and wants the US/Israeli relationship to be strong. That certainly ties in with his faith. He's a bit more pro involvement than I would like but he is definitely not a "let's go to war with everybody" kind of guy or a "America needs to be world cop" kind of guy. On Trump he was NeverTrump to start but gave him a fair shot once he was in office and has praised him when he did things he liked and criticized him when he didn't. He definitely doesn't like Trump's personal insults and stupid behavior, he mainly just wishes Trump would not shoot himself in the foot continually and get so easily distracted. It's not like Shapiro is unusual in that opinion.

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Now you're misrepresenting me.

I never said he supported mandates. He did love the vax though, and called you a dope if you didn't take it.

I find that there is very little difference between the establishment, and Shapiro. I'm talking McConnell, Crenshaw, McCarthy, Paul Ryan.

Has there been a war Shapiro didn't support?

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Pookers said:

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RingOfive said:

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The hijackers have ruined this thread.

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Concern noted. I guess we shouldn't discuss politics on a political forum.

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Or maybe you could start a new thread to discuss how much morality should be a part of our governmental structure instead of interjecting that discussion in the middle of one that has nothing to do with it?

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Well it does have to do with how DW, and Shapiro play gatekeeper and cater to advertisers, rather than subscription model, and wont let you say thing that are not the approved narrative.

If you deviate, and criticize the federal reserve then you are an anti Semite.

Not to mention he caves on social issues. That's why it came up. It is related. It would ruin Crowders show if he wasn't allowed to be edgy.

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Provide evidence Shapiro has ever said or implied criticizing the federal reserve makes you an anti-Semite.

Coming from the guy who was just complaining about "misrepresenting".

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aggie93 said:

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aggie93 said:

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vansprinkle said:

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aggie93 said:

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Pookers said:

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homebuildingag said:

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I have watched both and this is all just a negotiation using public sentiment now.

Will be even more interesting if crowder responds with a more conciliatory tone, or says that DW was just an example of the most recent term sheet but he wasn't angry at them alone.

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Nick Rekieta has a pretty good breakdown of Boring's response to Crowder; DW is full of *****

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All I see is an hour and 22 min video on Youtube and I don't want to invest that time without details, can you please summarize?

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Watch on Rumble, don't give YouTube clicks. With that said, Rekeitas stream on Rumble is 4.5 hours, so it's going to take some time to filter through it all and make note of the highlights.

Edit: the discussion starts at around 17:00 in the video below
Edit: The 40 minute mark gets interesting as he starts slicing up Boerings argument.

https://rumble.com/v267shy-daily-wire-responds-to-crowder-on-contracts-part-2-of-townhall-investigatio.html

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Watched the first bit of it. He lost me early when he had came out defending Crowder and admitted he had not watched the video. Then he also was taking the tack that everything Crowder claimed was gospel. The Mug Club discussion was where I stopped because he didn't address that the concern for DW was verification of those subscribers and money which Crowder was very vague about. He also said that Crowder wanted the minimum number at $70 million or more when it appears that number was under $50 million because Boering said that he had to find a way to at least get to his minimum ask.

Just not a fan of him watching the video and commenting in real time when it is such a complicated topic and he started with a clear bias and stated right off the bat things that were not the case based on what happened in the video. Watch the damn video and then do a breakdown. When he throws out his conclusions at the beginning and then tries to make the video he is watching for the first time fit those conclusions it really hampers credibility.

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lol more like blind supporting of DW no matter what they do.

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Sure that's it, just ignore the lengthy arguments. I like and support DW in general but I certainly don't blindly support them. I disagree with many things they do and say but I try to be objective.

You clearly don't listen to them though if you somehow think Shapiro is a fan of gay marriage or that he believed in mandates. He probably was as transparent in following the science as anyone throughout Covid and he was always clear that this should involve personal decisions. He got vaxxed because he had elderly parents he spends a lot of time with but he would not vax his kids and he was outspoken in his opposition to mandates.

I get the neocon argument but it's also insincere. Bill Kristol is a neocon. Shapiro is a guy that really likes Israel and wants the US/Israeli relationship to be strong. That certainly ties in with his faith. He's a bit more pro involvement than I would like but he is definitely not a "let's go to war with everybody" kind of guy or a "America needs to be world cop" kind of guy. On Trump he was NeverTrump to start but gave him a fair shot once he was in office and has praised him when he did things he liked and criticized him when he didn't. He definitely doesn't like Trump's personal insults and stupid behavior, he mainly just wishes Trump would not shoot himself in the foot continually and get so easily distracted. It's not like Shapiro is unusual in that opinion.

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Now you're misrepresenting me.

I never said he supported mandates. He did love the vax though, and called you a dope if you didn't take it.

I find that there is very little difference between the establishment, and Shapiro. I'm talking McConnell, Crenshaw, McCarthy, Paul Ryan.

Has there been a war Shapiro didn't support?

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Shapiro never said you were a dope if you didn't take it. He talked about the vax regularly on his show and how he was one of the only DW folks that were more pro vax but he was very supportive of others that did not want to get vaxxed. He also spoke about the value of natural immunity.

If you think Shapiro is the same as McConnell you just aren't paying attention. Shapiro isn't out there saying the top priority for the GOP is supporting Ukraine. He is not a hard core MAGA isolationist but he is not a neocon either, there is a lot of space in between.

I'd also really like to know when Shapiro advocated gay marriage as you claimed. He's been very outspoken on Woke issues and morality.

Most of your opinions on Shapiro sound like someone who heard from someone who doesn't like Shapiro why he doesn't like him without actually following him. As I said I don't agree with everything he says, far from it, but I do try to be fair. There are a lot of folks who hate Shapiro for a broad variety of reasons. He comes across as nerdy and smarmy and borderline elitist on occasion. He's very outspoken in his Orthodox Jewish beliefs and they permeate his opinions that can be off putting. He really dislikes Trump's personality and thinks it is an anchor on the message and issues he represents. He's also very successful and rich and a lot of folks are jealous of his success and how big of a microphone he has.

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If you deviate, and criticize the federal reserve then you are an anti Semite.

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Provide evidence Shapiro has ever said or implied criticizing the federal reserve makes you an anti-Semite.

Coming from the guy who was just complaining about "misrepresenting".

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He called Ron Paul racist several times when he ran for president primarily because he criticized the fed:
1.https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgLiW2PVQAA7vPf?format=jpg&name=medium

True story: Ron Paul once met a Joo he liked. Once.

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) January 2, 2012

List of others he included:

As per your silly list request, here are 20 alt-right-friendly or alt-right people/outlets. Have at it, @hughhewitt. pic.twitter.com/DniC7Ko85f

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) August 31, 2016

Literally none of that substantiates that he thinks criticizing the Fed makes someone and anti-Semite. Which is exactly what you said. And I am a RP fan.

You are just all over the place.

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aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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hph6203 said:

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

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He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

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MAGA

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Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

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America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

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You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

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Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

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Again, I don't think any of us here expect the USA to return to a policy stance that we talk about. This country is likely toast. Smaller nations will raise from the ashes and these will likely be a lot more homogenous, both racially and ideologically. It is in these nation states where the ideas being proposed here would take effect.

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What makes you think it would be homogenous? You think all the people you don't like are just going to pick up and leave because you say please?

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Literally none of that substantiates that he thinks criticizing the Fed makes someone and anti-Semite. Which is exactly what you said. And I am a RP fan.

You are just all over the place.

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LOL ok buddy. Thats what I could find quickly, but its true.

He said Ron Paul was griping the pen the way he would the neck of a joo.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgLiW2PVQAA7vPf?format=jpg&name=medium

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

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He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

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MAGA

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Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

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America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

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You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

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Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

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So at worst we wind up pretty much exactly where we are now. I'll take that risk all day.

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No, it would be way worse. Because at least now we have judges (at least at the state/local level) that would rule that unconstitutional. But under your system, the majority morality rules ARE the constitution. So you won't be able to find any corner of the nation where you can get away from the wokeism.

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Thats what I could find quickly, but its true.

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This guy

I'm legitimately starting to think he might be a very committed troll.

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hph6203 said:

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

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He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

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MAGA

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Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

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America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

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You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

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Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

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Again, I don't think any of us here expect the USA to return to a policy stance that we talk about. This country is likely toast. Smaller nations will raise from the ashes and these will likely be a lot more homogenous, both racially and ideologically. It is in these nation states where the ideas being proposed here would take effect.

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What makes you think it would be homogenous? You think all the people you don't like are just going to pick up and leave because you say please?

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History mostly, look at Rome. The collapsing of an empire is usually not very peaceful. Likeminded people will group together and new nations will rise. Half the CONUS will probably go back to Mexico at this point.

TxAgPreacher said:

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aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

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He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

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MAGA

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Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

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America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

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You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

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Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

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General Christian morality is what our country was founded on. Our founders explicitly said that. I don't care if you don't like it. Our system is based around a moral and religious(Christian) society. The constitution will not work without those values, and those values don't change. People like Shapiro water down the message..

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Wrong. The country was based on rights. Just read the DoI. And it doesn't matter if you like it or not.

You should be preaching to people to be moral rather than try to do it by force. Your attitude will turn people away from your point of view not towards it.

Pookers said:

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aTmAg said:

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Pookers said:

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aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

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He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

---

MAGA

---

Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

---

America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

---

You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

---

Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

---

Again, I don't think any of us here expect the USA to return to a policy stance that we talk about. This country is likely toast. Smaller nations will raise from the ashes and these will likely be a lot more homogenous, both racially and ideologically. It is in these nation states where the ideas being proposed here would take effect.

---

What makes you think it would be homogenous? You think all the people you don't like are just going to pick up and leave because you say please?

---

History mostly, look at Rome. The collapsing of an empire is usually not very peaceful. Likeminded people will group together and new nations will rise. Half the CONUS will probably go back to Mexico at this point.

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You are smoking crack if you think half the CONUS will go to Mexico.

aTmAg said:

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Pookers said:

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aTmAg said:

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Pookers said:

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aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

---

He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

---

MAGA

---

Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

---

America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

---

You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

---

Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

---

Again, I don't think any of us here expect the USA to return to a policy stance that we talk about. This country is likely toast. Smaller nations will raise from the ashes and these will likely be a lot more homogenous, both racially and ideologically. It is in these nation states where the ideas being proposed here would take effect.

---

What makes you think it would be homogenous? You think all the people you don't like are just going to pick up and leave because you say please?

---

History mostly, look at Rome. The collapsing of an empire is usually not very peaceful. Likeminded people will group together and new nations will rise. Half the CONUS will probably go back to Mexico at this point.

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You are smoking crack if you think half the CONUS will go to Mexico.

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You clearly don't understand how things work. Absent the US government and the rule of law demographics will determine where things end up. All this civic nationalism will go out the window the very instant the government implodes on itself. I was being a tad hyperbolic with half the CONUS, but a sizable portion probably would return to Mexico.

aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

---

He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

---

MAGA

---

Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

---

America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

---

You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

---

Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

---

General Christian morality is what our country was founded on. Our founders explicitly said that. I don't care if you don't like it. Our system is based around a moral and religious(Christian) society. The constitution will not work without those values, and those values don't change. People like Shapiro water down the message..

---

Wrong. The country was based on rights. Just read the DoI. And it doesn't matter if you like it or not.

You should be preaching to people to be moral rather than try to do it by force. Your attitude will turn people away from your point of view not towards it.

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I do both.

Thats your opinion, but our founders disagree. They supported my vision for government. The state has always had the power to make reasonable laws restrained by the constitution.

Pookers said:

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aTmAg said:

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Pookers said:

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aTmAg said:

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Pookers said:

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aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

---

He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

---

MAGA

---

Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

---

America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

---

You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

---

Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

---

Again, I don't think any of us here expect the USA to return to a policy stance that we talk about. This country is likely toast. Smaller nations will raise from the ashes and these will likely be a lot more homogenous, both racially and ideologically. It is in these nation states where the ideas being proposed here would take effect.

---

What makes you think it would be homogenous? You think all the people you don't like are just going to pick up and leave because you say please?

---

History mostly, look at Rome. The collapsing of an empire is usually not very peaceful. Likeminded people will group together and new nations will rise. Half the CONUS will probably go back to Mexico at this point.

---

You are smoking crack if you think half the CONUS will go to Mexico.

---

You clearly don't understand how things work. Absent the US government and the rule of law demographics will determine where things end up. All this civic nationalism will go out the window the very instant the government implodes on itself.

---

They wouldn't go to MEXICO. That's like saying they would go to Afghanistan.

You are proving to everybody that you have no idea how this would work.

TxAgPreacher said:

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Forget to switch user names?



Hell of a derail here!

TxAgPreacher said:

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aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

---

He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

---

MAGA

---

Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

---

America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

---

You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

---

Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

---

General Christian morality is what our country was founded on. Our founders explicitly said that. I don't care if you don't like it. Our system is based around a moral and religious(Christian) society. The constitution will not work without those values, and those values don't change. People like Shapiro water down the message..

---

Wrong. The country was based on rights. Just read the DoI. And it doesn't matter if you like it or not.

You should be preaching to people to be moral rather than try to do it by force. Your attitude will turn people away from your point of view not towards it.

---

I do both.

Thats your opinion, but our founders disagree. They supported my vision for government. The state has always had the power to make reasonable laws restrained by the constitution.

---

My opinion agrees with the founding fathers. The 1st amendment (written by the founders) literally forbade a national church at the federal level. Have you read any of it?

Rodney Ruxin said:

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Quote:

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Thats what I could find quickly, but its true.

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This guy

I'm legitimately starting to think he might be a very committed troll.

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So you don't think Anti Semitism is implied when he said Ron Paul was gripping the neck of a joo, and that he only met one joo he ever liked?

aTmAg said:

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Pookers said:

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aTmAg said:

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Pookers said:

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aTmAg said:

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Pookers said:

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aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

---

He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

---

MAGA

---

Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

---

America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

---

You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

---

Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

---

Again, I don't think any of us here expect the USA to return to a policy stance that we talk about. This country is likely toast. Smaller nations will raise from the ashes and these will likely be a lot more homogenous, both racially and ideologically. It is in these nation states where the ideas being proposed here would take effect.

---

What makes you think it would be homogenous? You think all the people you don't like are just going to pick up and leave because you say please?

---

History mostly, look at Rome. The collapsing of an empire is usually not very peaceful. Likeminded people will group together and new nations will rise. Half the CONUS will probably go back to Mexico at this point.

---

You are smoking crack if you think half the CONUS will go to Mexico.

---

You clearly don't understand how things work. Absent the US government and the rule of law demographics will determine where things end up. All this civic nationalism will go out the window the very instant the government implodes on itself.

---

They wouldn't go to MEXICO. That's like saying they would go to Afghanistan.

You are proving to everybody that you have no idea how this would work.

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Yes, I'm sure the cartels in Mexico are flooding the nation with immigrants for our benefit. They certainly wouldn't take advantage of the power vacuum and reclaim a lot of land.

aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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aTmAg said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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hph6203 said:

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He's not pro-gay marriage. He's anti-government involvement

---

He isn't fighting that battle in culture so he isn't really against it. He might as well be for it, as far as I'm concerned.

He is watering down the message. Don't you wonder why all other conservatives battle censorship but not Shapiro?

---

MAGA

---

Always been my number 1 gripe with Trump.

If we really want to make America great again then we will make marriage straight again!

Make
America
Godly
Again!

---

America has been a debaucherous place since its inception. The only difference between now and its beginning is that people talk openly about their debauchery rather than just in secret letters.

---

You are mistaken my friend. My great uncle used to fire people if they got a divorce. He had to or he would lose business. Divorce was unheard of, and homosexuals were rare, and degeneracy was criminalized. They never had drag shows for kids in schools, libraries and churches.

---

Okay.. so you get your way. And we establish a "morality" based government. And we vote for what we consider moral. Guess what? The divorcees, homosexuals, degenerates, drag queens, etc. outvote you. Now they are imposing their values on your kids in schools, libraries, and churches.

Thanks. That worked out great.

---

General Christian morality is what our country was founded on. Our founders explicitly said that. I don't care if you don't like it. Our system is based around a moral and religious(Christian) society. The constitution will not work without those values, and those values don't change. People like Shapiro water down the message..

---

Wrong. The country was based on rights. Just read the DoI. And it doesn't matter if you like it or not.

You should be preaching to people to be moral rather than try to do it by force. Your attitude will turn people away from your point of view not towards it.

---

I do both.

Thats your opinion, but our founders disagree. They supported my vision for government. The state has always had the power to make reasonable laws restrained by the constitution.

---

My opinion agrees with the founding fathers. The 1st amendment (written by the founders) literally forbade a national church at the federal level. Have you read any of it?

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Who said we should have a national church? Don't be so condescending while mischaracterizing my views.

Im Gipper said:

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Forget to switch user names?



Hell of a derail here!

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No I quoted myself by accident instead of editing my previous post.

Because I cant get this link to show up https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgLiW2PVQAA7vPf?format=jpg&name=medium

TxAgPreacher said:

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Rodney Ruxin said:

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Quote:

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Thats what I could find quickly, but its true.

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This guy

I'm legitimately starting to think he might be a very committed troll.

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So you don't think Anti Semitism is implied when he said Ron Paul was gripping the neck of a joo, and that he only met one joo he ever liked?

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That's not what you said. You said Shapiro equates criticizing the Fed with anti-seminitism. Do try and keep up with your own claims. Since you care so much about accurate representation at all.