The HEB foundation, at least from their website, doesn't APPEAR woke. I have no idea if they are or not. But just because Charles Butt is major woke doesn't mean the whole family is. Lots of us have a crazy lib brother or sister. However, I'll give you that he is the CEO of the company though and likely rules the roost on everything.TxTarpon said:Both are privately held by the Butt family.Quote:
The HEB foundation, Charles Butt foundation, and HEB Corp aren't the same.
What is a difference?
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Good thing they can sell in other counties then
Texasclipper said:The HEB foundation, at least from their website, doesn't APPEAR woke. I have no idea if they are or not. But just because Charles Butt is major woke doesn't mean the whole family is. Lots of us have a crazy lib brother or sister. However, I'll give you that he is the CEO of the company though and likely rules the roost on everything.TxTarpon said:Both are privately held by the Butt family.Quote:
The HEB foundation, Charles Butt foundation, and HEB Corp aren't the same.
What is a difference?
It's laughable how you use the word woke like a kid that just discovered a new curse word.
They've moved from no comments on their FB page to removing ones that aren't in agreement with their 'new' views.
Nopewbt5845 said:schmellba99 said:
To be fair, this can be applied to 98% of all microbreweries
Found the Bud Light drinker
So, I guess a talking point had been sent out that anyone on the right using the word "woke" has no idea what woke is, but the leftists never offer a counter definition.
This makes no sense.cajunaggie08 said:Texasclipper said:The HEB foundation, at least from their website, doesn't APPEAR woke. I have no idea if they are or not. But just because Charles Butt is major woke doesn't mean the whole family is. Lots of us have a crazy lib brother or sister. However, I'll give you that he is the CEO of the company though and likely rules the roost on everything.TxTarpon said:Both are privately held by the Butt family.Quote:
The HEB foundation, Charles Butt foundation, and HEB Corp aren't the same.
What is a difference?
It's laughable how you use the word woke like a kid that just discovered a new curse word.
used to buy kegs of bombshell blonde for my kegerator every now and then. I don't think I'll ever do that again. Not that they'll miss my business at all. I just don't want to give any business to free-speech hating, censorship-loving commie *******s.
But they're not woke and never were. /res libsRAB91 said:
They've moved from no comments on their FB page to removing ones that aren't in agreement with their 'new' views.
Rapier108 said:But they're not woke and never were. /res libsRAB91 said:
They've moved from no comments on their FB page to removing ones that aren't in agreement with their 'new' views.
Cancel those ass holes!!!
AlaskanAg99 said:
What are their values?
Supporting alcoholism?
It was easy to find sections there about woke topics like "opportunity gaps" and "redlining".Quote:
The HEB foundation, at least from their website, doesn't APPEAR woke.
From the foundation website:
Opportunities to Learn Want to understand more about the root causes of opportunity gaps in our city? We're here to help you get started. Learn how our history, policies, and misconceptions have shaped our city and the resources available to San Antonio families.
In 2010, San Antonio was listed as the most economically segregated city in the country,
Are you familiar with this from HEB Grocery's website?
Quote:
H-E-B was founded on the unwavering belief that Each and Every Person Counts. Through our Be the Change initiative, H-E-B pledges to do our part to advance education, equity and inclusion across our great state.
Be the Change builds upon our established Diversity and Inclusion framework driving us to be a better employer, retailer and community partner. To amplify diverse voices, we're proudly sharing their stories and highlighting their products and services.
Link
They are down with St. George Floyd.
H-E-B donating $1 million to address racial inequality In aftermath of death of George Floyd, Texas retailer takes a stand
I’ve seen so many weak responses/statements by brands and institutions to the BLM movement. Especially those failing to name George Floyd + #blacklivesmatter AND pairing their empty statements with ACTION. But not @heb ... no store does more than my HEB.🥺👏🏽 pic.twitter.com/fhJ6Try6c3
— Cynthia Edith (@cynthiaedith7) June 4, 2020
Quote:
https://www.newsnationnow.com/business/texas-brewery-kyle-rittenhouse/
"A lot of our paying customers contacted us and were expressing concern that we were going to have this and they said that they wouldn't be buying out product anymore," Fougeron said. "This wasn't a cancellation at all, this was a business decision."
He said he weighed the costs and benefits of what his customers wanted and saw the decision as a customer service move.
"We certainly didn't censor him," Fougeron said. "We reserve the right to deny rental to anybody. And we don't usually make it a policy to vet who's running our facility."
"It wasn't really until I started looking into the nature of this rally that I started having concerns. This rally is also hosting people on the far right. One of the guys is the leader of the TEXIT movement. Personally, it had nothing to do with Mr. Rittenhouse."
90% of the comments on their original tweet are highly negative. How drunk is the person that just put out that statement?RAB91 said:
Well, being a Christian these days is more like "The Religious Left" than Right. Our Methodist Church just disaffiliated from the United Methodist Church because of their Big Tent philosophy, Bishops (highest position in the organization) that are lesbian, etc. which is against the United Methodist Doctrine. So.........welcome to Sodom.
I never said HEB the corp wasn't woke. They are saying the same things every other major corp in America is saying including Kroger and Walmart.TxTarpon said:It was easy to find sections there about woke topics like "opportunity gaps" and "redlining".Quote:
The HEB foundation, at least from their website, doesn't APPEAR woke.
From the foundation website:
Opportunities to Learn Want to understand more about the root causes of opportunity gaps in our city? We're here to help you get started. Learn how our history, policies, and misconceptions have shaped our city and the resources available to San Antonio families.
In 2010, San Antonio was listed as the most economically segregated city in the country,
Are you familiar with this from HEB Grocery's website?Quote:
H-E-B was founded on the unwavering belief that Each and Every Person Counts. Through our Be the Change initiative, H-E-B pledges to do our part to advance education, equity and inclusion across our great state.
Be the Change builds upon our established Diversity and Inclusion framework driving us to be a better employer, retailer and community partner. To amplify diverse voices, we're proudly sharing their stories and highlighting their products and services.
Link
They are down with St. George Floyd.
H-E-B donating $1 million to address racial inequality In aftermath of death of George Floyd, Texas retailer takes a standI’ve seen so many weak responses/statements by brands and institutions to the BLM movement. Especially those failing to name George Floyd + #blacklivesmatter AND pairing their empty statements with ACTION. But not @heb ... no store does more than my HEB.🥺👏🏽 pic.twitter.com/fhJ6Try6c3
— Cynthia Edith (@cynthiaedith7) June 4, 2020
Finding a major grocery store that doesn't say those things is almost impossible. I guess if you live near a Brookshire Bros that would be an option. If i lived in West College Station, i for sure would use the Brookshire on George Bush. That's nice store.
Try long gone blondeoh no said:
used to buy kegs of bombshell blonde for my kegerator every now and then. I don't think I'll ever do that again. Not that they'll miss my business at all. I just don't want to give any business to free-speech hating, censorship-loving commie *******s.
https://www.whitestonebrewery.com/konverter-kolsch-289599.html
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Since this guy is old and gay (probably no kids), who is going to be the CEO after he dies?Texasclipper said:The HEB foundation, at least from their website, doesn't APPEAR woke. I have no idea if they are or not. But just because Charles Butt is major woke doesn't mean the whole family is. Lots of us have a crazy lib brother or sister. However, I'll give you that he is the CEO of the company though and likely rules the roost on everything.TxTarpon said:Both are privately held by the Butt family.Quote:
The HEB foundation, Charles Butt foundation, and HEB Corp aren't the same.
What is a difference?
I'm sure it's good, but I'm never planning enough time to order ahead so I'm typically limited to whatever Total Wine in The Woodlands has in stock when I walk in there. Typically some St Arnold's, Karbach, Southern Star and the usual majors. I've got St Arnold's Art Car right now.
RAB91 said:
Why would you post this if you truly did get a lot of support in the decision? That doesn't make any sense to me. You're essentially informing people of either a) what they already know or b) what you've already told them (I assume any email or phone response ended with a thanks of some sort). Besides, if they get 10 calls in favor and 90 calls against, is this ad still accurate? They don't say ALL comments were positive.
I don't believe the "gist" of this. And if you doubt the first part, you have to entertain doubts on the second part (about the pressure to pull it).
91AggieLawyer said:RAB91 said:
Why would you post this if you truly did get a lot of support in the decision? That doesn't make any sense to me. You're essentially informing people of either a) what they already know or b) what you've already told them (I assume any email or phone response ended with a thanks of some sort). Besides, if they get 10 calls in favor and 90 calls against, is this ad still accurate? They don't say ALL comments were positive.
I don't believe the "gist" of this. And if you doubt the first part, you have to entertain doubts on the second part (about the pressure to pull it).
Looks like they posted in part to put down the "HEB made us do it" narrative so many ran with based on a tweet. Some even still believe it apparently
I still wonder what happened to that woman he assaulted in Houston.
Was she paid off to disappear?
Was she paid off to disappear?
They should simply state we sell beer
To whomever loves great beer
Instead they git political
It wouldn't surprise me heb forced them.
Well, good kick with all those leftist that drink craft beer and being in conroe,, not a great look.
To whomever loves great beer
Instead they git political
It wouldn't surprise me heb forced them.
Well, good kick with all those leftist that drink craft beer and being in conroe,, not a great look.
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BREAKING: A whistleblower associated with Southern Star Brewery has come forward corroborating our press release that HEB directed Southern Star Brewery to cancel the event with @ThisIsKyleR. pic.twitter.com/RAa3ShSeT0
— Defiance Press (@DefiancePress) January 16, 2023
"We rent our facilities for gay pride rallies, but we cannot in good conscience rent our facility for a free speech / anti-censorship rally because we're not political. We just sell beer."
That explanation just isn't going to be satisfactory to some non-woke anti-communists. They are free to run their business as they wish, but I hope a lot of people choose not to give them business. Retailers won't buy products that don't sell and no one really needs to visit their brewery in Conroe. Someone please tell me B-52 isn't America-hating communist, too!
That explanation just isn't going to be satisfactory to some non-woke anti-communists. They are free to run their business as they wish, but I hope a lot of people choose not to give them business. Retailers won't buy products that don't sell and no one really needs to visit their brewery in Conroe. Someone please tell me B-52 isn't America-hating communist, too!
You could argue that gay pride isn't political. gay people are on both sides
Heard Dave Fougeron the owner and CEO on Michael Berry this morning. Sounds like a guy that just wants to lay low and sell beer.
HOWEVER, he claims he cancelled it because of the number of customer complaints about the event being held. Liberals doing what they do, and this dipsh** thought he could make it go away by listening to them. He again claimed HEB had nothing to do with it.
He admitted to a wide range of political events before. He has never made a decision like this and just took the bookings, but this one was different and he felt like he was listening to his customer.
What a monumental mis understanding of his customer base. Ironically, a freedom of speech event was the one that he chose to listen to a vocal minority of his customers.
Best thing he could have done is to just continue on as is and inform the woke mob that he had made a commitment to an organization and going forward he could look at establishing a more apolitical criteria for accepting bookings, but in this case he had an ethical responsibility and an obligation to go through with the event.
Was previously proud to call it Aggie owned and operated, but I'm officially done with the brand. Guy is an embarrassment. I understand he just wants to sell beer, and can empathize with him as he does not want to be in this sh** storm. But best thing he could have done is rest on past decisions, previous policies and commitments made, and not try to change to appease.
HOWEVER, he claims he cancelled it because of the number of customer complaints about the event being held. Liberals doing what they do, and this dipsh** thought he could make it go away by listening to them. He again claimed HEB had nothing to do with it.
He admitted to a wide range of political events before. He has never made a decision like this and just took the bookings, but this one was different and he felt like he was listening to his customer.
What a monumental mis understanding of his customer base. Ironically, a freedom of speech event was the one that he chose to listen to a vocal minority of his customers.
Best thing he could have done is to just continue on as is and inform the woke mob that he had made a commitment to an organization and going forward he could look at establishing a more apolitical criteria for accepting bookings, but in this case he had an ethical responsibility and an obligation to go through with the event.
Was previously proud to call it Aggie owned and operated, but I'm officially done with the brand. Guy is an embarrassment. I understand he just wants to sell beer, and can empathize with him as he does not want to be in this sh** storm. But best thing he could have done is rest on past decisions, previous policies and commitments made, and not try to change to appease.
Thanks for summarizing.
How do you successfully run a business of any size in 2023 and have not already learned the lesson that appeasement of the woke mob is a losing strategy? The only way to win is not to play their game. And issuing proclamations of your appeasement on your social media account...what a doofus thing to do.
How do you successfully run a business of any size in 2023 and have not already learned the lesson that appeasement of the woke mob is a losing strategy? The only way to win is not to play their game. And issuing proclamations of your appeasement on your social media account...what a doofus thing to do.
It blows my mind that there are people out there that don't understand that no matter what, it is never enough for the modern left. How this dude couldn't foresee the ****storm after canceling and that the vocal people against it are a small minority ill never understand.
Heard his interview as well.
Props to him for coming on
At first I had sympathy for him as it seemed he was stuck in a **** storm for what seemed to be a tough decision to cancel.
He then he started spouting some lefty catch words, admitted they have had political groups before and so forth. Yeah, not buying their stuff again
Berry is having the other side on his show shortly. Get both sides
Props to him for coming on
At first I had sympathy for him as it seemed he was stuck in a **** storm for what seemed to be a tough decision to cancel.
He then he started spouting some lefty catch words, admitted they have had political groups before and so forth. Yeah, not buying their stuff again
Berry is having the other side on his show shortly. Get both sides
I heard some of the other guy's story. He claims the following...
- Southern Star owner told him that HEB was pressuring him to drop the event.
- He would not have used social media to push back on Southern Star if SS hadn't taken the first step.
- The SS owner had every right to cancel the event, but it was more how/when it was done that was his issue.
- SS knew from the very beginning that Kyle Rittenhouse would be at the event.
- Southern Star owner told him that HEB was pressuring him to drop the event.
- He would not have used social media to push back on Southern Star if SS hadn't taken the first step.
- The SS owner had every right to cancel the event, but it was more how/when it was done that was his issue.
- SS knew from the very beginning that Kyle Rittenhouse would be at the event.
The owner is now on FB calling the event organizers fascists.
He claims to be apolitical but is throwing every buzzword from the leftist playbook he can find.
Felt bad for the guy before. Now I say **** him.
He claims to be apolitical but is throwing every buzzword from the leftist playbook he can find.
Felt bad for the guy before. Now I say **** him.
Maybe they can host an event for Black Rifle Coffee Company- the owners seem like they would get along very well
RAB91 said:
I heard some of the other guy's story. He claims the following...
- Southern Star owner told him that HEB was pressuring him to drop the event.
- He would not have used social media to push back on Southern Star if SS hadn't taken the first step.
- The SS owner had every right to cancel the event, but it was more how/when it was done that was his issue.
- SS knew from the very beginning that Kyle Rittenhouse would be at the event.
The last part - they knew from the very beginning
They deserve what they have received over this.
Congrats HEB wins again - woke rolls on
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