I for one think this is a good thing. We all have finite amount of time on earth why only explore when you're retired. Kudos to Gen Z for having the balls to get up and leave. More to life than working for somebody else's gain

https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-rewriting-rulebook-jobs-resume-gaps-career-breaks-work-2023-1?amp

Generation Zombie or Generation Worthless

Both are accurate descriptions.

They're going to be in for a rude awakening when this all goes kinetic.

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I for one think this is a good thing. We all have finite amount of time on earth why only explore when you're retired. Kudos to Gen Z for having the balls to get up and leave. More to life than working for somebody else's gain

https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-rewriting-rulebook-jobs-resume-gaps-career-breaks-work-2023-1?amp

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Maybe, but the people they are competing against are not taking breaks.

So who is going to provide them stuff to homes to live in, food to eat, etc.? Everybody else?

And you think this is praiseworthy?

I know i get to come out ahead

I don't have a problem with it unless they expect daddy government to give them money and pay off their loans.

The kids are alright.

The kids are stupid and selfish.

What are they going to do when they start getting hungry? Demand government come to their rescue?

Every time I hear folks worried about their mental health thing, I think of this Jordan Peterson clip.

Also, I'm thinking Just get up every day and hustle and take care of your family and you will find plenty to worry about besides yourself.

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So who is going to provide them stuff to homes to live in, food to eat, etc.? Everybody else?

And you think this is praiseworthy?

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Well Mommy and Daddy, of course

52-58 percent of older gen z and younger to middle millennials are still living with their parents.

Do you also think all finance majors make 1million/yr?

Gen Z watched boomers, who ride on the coattails of their parents' success, Lucy van pelt the football to their kids and grandkids enough times b to catch wise to the "spend money but you can't get paid ."/"die for the economy." bull**** that they are fighting back and the right people are mad about it.

Good.

So you are ok with them crying for more government handouts? They should get them?

I can see taking a year or two off in your 20's to pursue something you're passionate about. Something that can't be done while holding down a full time job. I suspect most don't pursue anything worthwhile, though, and find themselves severely in debt or back home with mom & dad.

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I don't have a problem with it unless they expect daddy government to give them money and pay off their loans.

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Oh wait, they do.

Every animal in the Animal kingdom has to work to survive. Prey don't just walk up to us and say "eat me". Shelter doesn't just spontaneously build itself around us. On top of that, humans today have to work less to survive than humans at any time in world history. Our ancestors worked in the fields for 80 hour and 7 day weeks just to barely provide for their families.

Yet today, these pansies complain that they have to work in an air conditioned Starbucks 5 hours a day? GTFOH.

So on the one hand this generation whines how it's impossible to buy a home, pay off loans, get ahead and on the other hand they don't want to work and take long breaks early in their career? Seems like the problem is in the mirror perhaps.

More like Generation Zombie

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I for one think this is a good thing. We all have finite amount of time on earth why only explore when you're retired. Kudos to Gen Z for having the balls to get up and leave. More to life than working for somebody else's gain

https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-rewriting-rulebook-jobs-resume-gaps-career-breaks-work-2023-1?amp

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Good luck to them when we finally hit a tough labor market. Most under 30 are just now seeing their first blip in the stock markets and really haven't seen too much trouble in the labor market.

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Gen Z watched boomers, who ride on the coattails of their parents' success, Lucy van pelt the football to their kids and grandkids enough times b to catch wise to the "spend money but you can't get paid ."/"die for the economy." bull**** that they are fighting back and the right people are mad about it.

Good.

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Can you speak English?

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Gen Z watched boomers, who ride on the coattails of their parents' success, Lucy van pelt the football to their kids and grandkids enough times b to catch wise to the "spend money but you can't get paid ."/"die for the economy." bull**** that they are fighting back and the right people are mad about it.

Good.

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Touche

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Gen Z watched boomers, who ride on the coattails of their parents' success, Lucy van pelt the football to their kids and grandkids enough times b to catch wise to the "spend money but you can't get paid ."/"die for the economy." bull**** that they are fighting back and the right people are mad about it.

Good.

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On top of that, humans today have to work less to survive than humans at any time in world history. Our ancestors worked in the fields for 80 hour and 7 day weeks just to barely provide for their families.

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Yeah but hunter-gatherers work(ed) like 15 hours a week. Can't support and sustain large-scale civilizations like that, but arguably agriculture was a mistake that just kind of became self-perpetuating.

For anyone who's not a biblical literalist, that's what the Garden of Eden story is pretty obviously about. Once in the land between the Tigris and the Euphrates, people lived in a state of innocence and all that they needed was provided for them for the taking. Then there was a change and that time of innocence was lost. The humans who came after were farmers and keepers of livestock (see Cain and Abel). This was God's terrible curse that came with the loss of that innocence - "getting food from the ground Will be as painful as having babies is for your wife; you'll be working in pain all your life long. The ground will sprout thorns and weeds, you'll get your food the hard way, Planting and tilling and harvesting, sweating in the fields from dawn to dusk, Until you return to that ground yourself, dead and buried." And thus, there in the Fertile Crescent, civilization blossomed, supported by the brutal toil of farming and with all the complications and problems that come with it. And through the generations the story was remembered and told and eventually written.

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I for one think this is a good thing. We all have finite amount of time on earth why only explore when you're retired. Kudos to Gen Z for having the balls to get up and leave. More to life than working for somebody else's gain

https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-rewriting-rulebook-jobs-resume-gaps-career-breaks-work-2023-1?amp

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I have two working for me. One works her ass off and the other one just sits on her ass. Everyone hates the latter. She is worthless. It doesn't go unnoticed.

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Shola West, 22, took a yearlong break at the start of her career and now offers advice to other young people via her TikTok account. "I didn't really know what I wanted to do," West said. Instead of jumping into a career right out of college that she might not like and wasting time and energy, West chose a career gap that gave her the time she needed to research, network, go to events, and understand what she was getting herself into.

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100% chance I would not even interview someone like this.

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aTmAg said:

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On top of that, humans today have to work less to survive than humans at any time in world history. Our ancestors worked in the fields for 80 hour and 7 day weeks just to barely provide for their families.

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Yeah but hunter-gatherers work(ed) like 15 hours a week. Can't support and sustain large-scale civilizations like that, but arguably agriculture was a mistake that just kind of became self-perpetuating.

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Where do you get the notion that hunter-gathers worked 15 hours a week? Read about the lives of native Americans. Men and women worked their asses off all the time. It was an incredibly difficult life.

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Shola West, 22, took a yearlong break at the start of her career and now offers advice to other young people via her TikTok account. "I didn't really know what I wanted to do," West said. Instead of jumping into a career right out of college that she might not like and wasting time and energy, West chose a career gap that gave her the time she needed to research, network, go to events, and understand what she was getting herself into.

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100% chance I would not even interview someone like this.

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And here I thought one of the main points of attending college was to research, network, go to events, and understand what you're getting yourself in to.

Huh.

Ora et labora

Most everyone I know in their 30s who has realized the system is rigged against the employee has started their own business or is working on it. This seems far more advantageous than taking multi year breaks that victor id celebrating.

Newsflash: we all know being an employee sucks. Do it anyway until you find something you're good at. Then figure out the steps needed to go do it for yourself. You don't need to create a billion dollar company. I know plenty of people with revenues from 500,000 to 5,000,000 that are killing it as a well rounded businessman and family man. It takes guts, but it's pretty simple if you find basic services people want.

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On top of that, humans today have to work less to survive than humans at any time in world history. Our ancestors worked in the fields for 80 hour and 7 day weeks just to barely provide for their families.

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Yeah but hunter-gatherers work(ed) like 15 hours a week. Can't support and sustain large-scale civilizations like that, but arguably agriculture was a mistake that just kind of became self-perpetuating.

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Where do you get the notion that hunter-gathers worked 15 hours a week? Read about the lives of native Americans. Men and women worked their asses off all the time. It was an incredibly difficult life.

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Not surprised that claim came from thermos.

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Shola West, 22, took a yearlong break at the start of her career and now offers advice to other young people via her TikTok account. "I didn't really know what I wanted to do," West said. Instead of jumping into a career right out of college that she might not like and wasting time and energy, West chose a career gap that gave her the time she needed to research, network, go to events, and understand what she was getting herself into.

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100% chance I would not even interview someone like this.

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And here I thought one of the main points of attending college was to research, network, go to events, and understand what you're getting yourself in to.

Huh.

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Agreed. But then again, college has turned into a degree mill, so these current kids likely aren't learning squat. Experience is good, even if a job is a bad fit. There is always some skill to pickup unless you are a lazy sack.

This is ok. I've known people that have done this as millennials and turned out ok.