The stuff from the NYTIMES ARTICLE that op OMITTED is really interesting too... weird he'd only copy and paste some of it and leave other parts out unless he had some kind of agenda

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There's no F-ing way Teslag served. I've never heard anyone wearing a uniform spout that kind of BS. Except Woke Generals.

Since when is "get the jab" a lawful order? It's an untested cocktail known to cause myocarditis in healthy young adults. Its Ok to disobey "Shoot those kids", but not "kill yourself for no reason?" BS. I had the ethics classes on My Lai, watched the training films, wrote an essay. If a CO says "Step on that mine soldier" you don't have to.

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It became lawful when it gained full approval. The military has mandated vaccines for decades. We don't get to decide which ones are valid and which ones aren't. That is above our pay grade.

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None of this is new. The military went through the same thing with the anthrax vaccine some years ago, and troops were discharged who refused to take it. Same song, different verse.

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Senators also rejected a Republican proposal by Senators Ted Cruz of Texas and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin to reinstate and provide back pay to service members who were dismissed by the military for refusing to take the coronavirus vaccine.

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Good deal. Failure to follow lawful orders should never be rewarded. It is the foundation of who we are in the military.

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Yeah, you can go royally shove it. Rebellion against stupidity is what formed this country.

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So our military order and discipline should be defined by "I don't wanna!"?

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Strawman. Our military should be defined to "f-that!" to horrible orders. If you want robots, for visit Nazi history. I want thinkers who can kick ass and still play soccer with village children. Not morons who put their self in actual harms way because some idiot bureaucrat told them to.

I expect nothing less from you and your line of logic.

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Do you realize how many soldiers think they are given "horrible orders" every day?

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I truly hope you aren't in charge of anything or anyone (even a household). You are still defending this crap. I just don't get you.

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What he is defending is good order and discipline in the ranks. Which is sorta important. When we have Soldiers with the mindset of, " I'll do what I want when I want" I can assure you that discipline is impacted in a negative way. This whole discussion is being driven by vax hysteria instead of people realizing that there has to be limits to people's personal wants and desires while serving in uniform.

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When people at the top push politics and money over the people they lead, their orders need to be ignored. Anyone that continues to force this poison on people should be hung.

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Upset about a shot. Your solution? Hanging people.

You sound stable.

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This is life and death and the military is intentionally killing its soldiers

[This is so over-the-top you need to take a break. Continue and your bans will increase in length -- Staff]

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Senators also rejected a Republican proposal by Senators Ted Cruz of Texas and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin to reinstate and provide back pay to service members who were dismissed by the military for refusing to take the coronavirus vaccine.

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Good deal. Failure to follow lawful orders should never be rewarded. It is the foundation of who we are in the military.

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Yeah, you can go royally shove it. Rebellion against stupidity is what formed this country.

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So our military order and discipline should be defined by "I don't wanna!"?

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Strawman. Our military should be defined to "f-that!" to horrible orders. If you want robots, for visit Nazi history. I want thinkers who can kick ass and still play soccer with village children. Not morons who put their self in actual harms way because some idiot bureaucrat told them to.

I expect nothing less from you and your line of logic.

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Do you realize how many soldiers think they are given "horrible orders" every day?

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I truly hope you aren't in charge of anything or anyone (even a household). You are still defending this crap. I just don't get you.

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What he is defending is good order and discipline in the ranks. Which is sorta important. When we have Soldiers with the mindset of, " I'll do what I want when I want" I can assure you that discipline is impacted in a negative way. This whole discussion is being driven by vax hysteria instead of people realizing that there has to be limits to people's personal wants and desires while serving in uniform.

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When people at the top push politics and money over the people they lead, their orders need to be ignored. Anyone that continues to force this poison on people should be hung.

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Upset about a shot. Your solution? Hanging people.

You sound stable.

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You need to just stop. This is life and death and the military is intentionally killing its soldiers. Yes, they have a right to refuse a poison and the people pushing this need to have a swift trial followed by an execution.

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Intentionally killing soldiers? Pathetic. I'm actually embarrassed for you.

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Senators also rejected a Republican proposal by Senators Ted Cruz of Texas and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin to reinstate and provide back pay to service members who were dismissed by the military for refusing to take the coronavirus vaccine.

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Good deal. Failure to follow lawful orders should never be rewarded. It is the foundation of who we are in the military.

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Yeah, you can go royally shove it. Rebellion against stupidity is what formed this country.

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So our military order and discipline should be defined by "I don't wanna!"?

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Strawman. Our military should be defined to "f-that!" to horrible orders. If you want robots, for visit Nazi history. I want thinkers who can kick ass and still play soccer with village children. Not morons who put their self in actual harms way because some idiot bureaucrat told them to.

I expect nothing less from you and your line of logic.

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Do you realize how many soldiers think they are given "horrible orders" every day?

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I truly hope you aren't in charge of anything or anyone (even a household). You are still defending this crap. I just don't get you.

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What he is defending is good order and discipline in the ranks. Which is sorta important. When we have Soldiers with the mindset of, " I'll do what I want when I want" I can assure you that discipline is impacted in a negative way. This whole discussion is being driven by vax hysteria instead of people realizing that there has to be limits to people's personal wants and desires while serving in uniform.

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When people at the top push politics and money over the people they lead, their orders need to be ignored. Anyone that continues to force this poison on people should be hung.

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Upset about a shot. Your solution? Hanging people.

You sound stable.

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You need to just stop. This is life and death and the military is intentionally killing its soldiers. Yes, they have a right to refuse a poison and the people pushing this need to have a swift trial followed by an execution.

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Intentionally killing soldiers? Pathetic. I'm actually embarrassed for you.

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I'm ashamed of you. To call yourself an Aggie and be willing to force this poison on our soldiers is treasonous. I really hope you're just some random guy looking for attention instead of someone with any influence over our soldiers.

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Senators also rejected a Republican proposal by Senators Ted Cruz of Texas and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin to reinstate and provide back pay to service members who were dismissed by the military for refusing to take the coronavirus vaccine.

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Good deal. Failure to follow lawful orders should never be rewarded. It is the foundation of who we are in the military.

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Yeah, you can go royally shove it. Rebellion against stupidity is what formed this country.

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So our military order and discipline should be defined by "I don't wanna!"?

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Strawman. Our military should be defined to "f-that!" to horrible orders. If you want robots, for visit Nazi history. I want thinkers who can kick ass and still play soccer with village children. Not morons who put their self in actual harms way because some idiot bureaucrat told them to.

I expect nothing less from you and your line of logic.

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Do you realize how many soldiers think they are given "horrible orders" every day?

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I truly hope you aren't in charge of anything or anyone (even a household). You are still defending this crap. I just don't get you.

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What he is defending is good order and discipline in the ranks. Which is sorta important. When we have Soldiers with the mindset of, " I'll do what I want when I want" I can assure you that discipline is impacted in a negative way. This whole discussion is being driven by vax hysteria instead of people realizing that there has to be limits to people's personal wants and desires while serving in uniform.

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When people at the top push politics and money over the people they lead, their orders need to be ignored. Anyone that continues to force this poison on people should be hung.

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Upset about a shot. Your solution? Hanging people.

You sound stable.

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You need to just stop. This is life and death and the military is intentionally killing its soldiers. Yes, they have a right to refuse a poison and the people pushing this need to have a swift trial followed by an execution.

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Intentionally killing soldiers? Pathetic. I'm actually embarrassed for you.

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I'm ashamed of you. To call yourself an Aggie and be willing to force this poison on our soldiers is treasonous. I really hope you're just some random guy looking for attention instead of someone with any influence over our soldiers.

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How long did you serve in the military? Given your "insight" into the military's desire to kill its own members you must have extensive knowledge of the inner workings of the DoD.

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Senators also rejected a Republican proposal by Senators Ted Cruz of Texas and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin to reinstate and provide back pay to service members who were dismissed by the military for refusing to take the coronavirus vaccine.

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Good deal. Failure to follow lawful orders should never be rewarded. It is the foundation of who we are in the military.

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Yeah, you can go royally shove it. Rebellion against stupidity is what formed this country.

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So our military order and discipline should be defined by "I don't wanna!"?

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Strawman. Our military should be defined to "f-that!" to horrible orders. If you want robots, for visit Nazi history. I want thinkers who can kick ass and still play soccer with village children. Not morons who put their self in actual harms way because some idiot bureaucrat told them to.

I expect nothing less from you and your line of logic.

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Do you realize how many soldiers think they are given "horrible orders" every day?

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I truly hope you aren't in charge of anything or anyone (even a household). You are still defending this crap. I just don't get you.

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What he is defending is good order and discipline in the ranks. Which is sorta important. When we have Soldiers with the mindset of, " I'll do what I want when I want" I can assure you that discipline is impacted in a negative way. This whole discussion is being driven by vax hysteria instead of people realizing that there has to be limits to people's personal wants and desires while serving in uniform.

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When people at the top push politics and money over the people they lead, their orders need to be ignored. Anyone that continues to force this poison on people should be hung.

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Upset about a shot. Your solution? Hanging people.

You sound stable.

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You need to just stop. This is life and death and the military is intentionally killing its soldiers. Yes, they have a right to refuse a poison and the people pushing this need to have a swift trial followed by an execution.

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Intentionally killing soldiers? Pathetic. I'm actually embarrassed for you.

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I'm ashamed of you. To call yourself an Aggie and be willing to force this poison on our soldiers is treasonous. I really hope you're just some random guy looking for attention instead of someone with any influence over our soldiers.

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How long did you serve in the military? Given your "insight" into the military's desire to kill its own members you must have extensive knowledge of the inner workings of the DoD.

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What does that matter? Forcing someone to take these poison shots is pure evil. No intelligent person believes that they're safe or effective, so the powers that be are intentionally harming these soldiers. I'm ashamed that someone would claim to be an Aggie while supporting these things.

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Considering they discharged over 3500 service members over this mandate.

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Trump already stated they'll be re-enlisted w full back pay when he's elected

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Hrs a bear
A grizzly bear

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My Name Is Judge said:

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Considering they discharged over 3500 service members over this mandate.

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Trump already stated they'll be re-enlisted w full back pay when he's elected

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Hrs a bear
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How will that happen? How will Trump get them reinstated with back pay?

Did TeslaAg used to be CoronaBro Darville? I'm appalled at what I am reading from this poster and regardless you should be ashamed of yourself, TeslaAg. Just really detestable all around.

He trolls until he gets banned then he trolls again

Sad y'all can't figure that out

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Well I counseled and didn't let 6 soldiers get paid this past weekend because they haven't got their flu vaccine yet (brigade directive was to have it by December 1st). So chew on that one for a bit.

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Then why were they in drill status? You mandated that they work without getting paid? Pretty unethical.

Why haven't these soldiers been discharged for disobeying? And it's so unsafe for them to be around others. What a farce. Because the guard is hurting for soldiers, the "leadership" bent the rules, even though they insist the lack of the shot is causing readiness issues.

If the DOD/ CinC come out tomorrow and say everyone gets a bleach injection, is that a lawful order? You know what that gets you? It get soldiers and Marines sitting way to close to nuclear explosions in the 50's and 60's. Is that the right way to treat people, because it happened multiple times. Or what about the army doing syphilis experiments on black soldiers?

Do the hard right thing, not the easy popular thing.

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None of this is new. The military went through the same thing with the anthrax vaccine some years ago, and troops were discharged who refused to take it. Same song, different verse.

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Anthrax was required when deploying to the middle east. Not for garrison, not for non deploying reservists.

Then they changed the policy when they realized it was creating a problem with some of the troops, and it wasn't really needed. You would think there would be a lesson learned here.

I bet STV looks like Vindman

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The military mandate was put in place after the vaccine had full non-experimental approval.

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It is still experimental.

It is not possible to have done any long-term testing. Everyone who has been jabbed is part of the "long-term" experiment.

I have chosen to remain in the "control group"