Jack Squat 83 said:

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If they just sold TWO coffees to everyone the math would work.

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I wish I could find the picture. Dennis the Menace and Joey have a lemonade stand. Sign says lemonade $100.00 a glass. Dennis says to Joey, "relax, all we gotta sell is one glass".

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Probably phd students graduates from Harvard….

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The workers should form a cooperative and buy the business from the owners. Then they could operate it as a worker's utopia for all of a week before they go out of business.

OasisMan said:

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Was the company not allowed to just fire all the economic idiots and hire new staff ???

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Not if they agreed to the union. Most likely the were contractually obligated to use union labor.

Demosthenes81 said:

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The workers should form a cooperative and buy the business from the owners. Then they could operate it as a worker's utopia for all of a week before they go out of business.

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Buy?

Don't you mean seize the means of production?

where are all the resident Libs/Democrats on TexAgs to defend the Union? I am waiting for them to tell us how this makes any financial sense and is just.

Of course these are the same folks that support KKK Joe and his corruption, can't tell what a woman is, support sexualization of children, the murder of children, untested vaccines, and the list goes on and on. They never explain any of that either. So I won't hold my breath they will explain this one.

At this point, insanity seems to be the only explanation for supporting any of the above, including the Union in this Post.

One of those idiot protestors should buy the store(s) and keep them open. ...Oh wait.

RiverAg 80 said:

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Nuke_Ag05 said:

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Agthatbuilds said:

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Just because you go to Harvard doesn't mean you're smart

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See Shelia Jackson Lee.

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Did she really go to Harvard?
There is stupid and then there is SJL stupid.

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She didn't go to Harvard. She went to Yale. Then Virginia Law.

If you dare, here's where I saw the story.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217393718

OasisMan said:

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Was the company not allowed to just fire all the economic idiots and hire new staff ???

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I'm sure in a state friendly to unions that is impossible. I bet federal regulations would make it hard even in a right-t-work state. However, I bet puling the plug on the whole business is a move that catches everyone off guard.

After meeting union demands:

Your small, plain coffee is $42.34. Creamer is a $9.00 add on.

Thanks and have a great day, comrade!

RiverAg 80 said:

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Nuke_Ag05 said:

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Agthatbuilds said:

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Just because you go to Harvard doesn't mean you're smart

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See Shelia Jackson Lee.

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Did she really go to Harvard?
There is stupid and then there is SJL stupid.

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Ohhhhhh my bad.

Yale.

If you can pay your employees $24 to pour liquid in a cup AND still turn a profit (or break even) - go for it. It's YOUR company. But when you have to raise the cost of your product so high that no one will buy your product, therein lies the problem. Good luck.

p.s. The market will self-correct this decision.

The amusing part to me is that the oblivious solution is a profit sharing model - but when the owners follow this method the recurring complaint is that the owners are hiding / lying about their finances.

Go old school pirate method of 3shares to the captain/owner, 2 shares to the quartermaster/manager, and 1 share for everyone else. You'd still hear complaining about not getting a living wage and ownership doesn't deserve their cut and hiding money and whatnot

Ayn Rand was a prophet

Bartenders can make that or more at the right kinda bar

Unions do to businesses what cancer does to its host.

Kills it.

Nothing says stupid lazy entitled arrogant ahole like an Ivy League degree.

The U of Phoenix alumni association has more earning power than the Harvard alumni.

Ciboag96 said:

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Unions do to businesses what cancer does to its host.

Kills it.

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Corrupt union leadership, a mainstay of the DNC and liberalism / socialism, is the cancer.

Having a union is not the issue. Running the union with the ideals of a corrupt communist dictator is the cancer.

Ciboag96 said:

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Unions do to businesses what cancer does to its host.

Kills it.

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This

fka ftc said:

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Nothing says stupid lazy entitled arrogant ahole like an Ivy League degree.

The U of Phoenix alumni association has more earning power than the Harvard alumni.

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Lol wut? Why just post nonsensical drivel?

blacksox said:

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fka ftc said:

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Nothing says stupid lazy entitled arrogant ahole like an Ivy League degree.

The U of Phoenix alumni association has more earning power than the Harvard alumni.

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Lol wut? Why just post nonsensical drivel?

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It's never stopped you from posting

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agdoc2001 said:

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$0 deductible insurance??? Holy crap, how much would that cost per employee?

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I own a small business. $5,500 - $7,000 per employee per year would be the rough cost depending on the plan and age of the workforce. The paid time off would also be pretty costly for a coffee shop.

I'll go work for a "living wage" in the richest zip in the country code pouring coffee. I mean every service or retail company must pay the lowest grunt enough money to live without struggle in the neighborhood of the worksite according to democratic underground. Of course, I'll live a few zip codes away but that's not the point.

blacksox said:

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fka ftc said:

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Nothing says stupid lazy entitled arrogant ahole like an Ivy League degree.

The U of Phoenix alumni association has more earning power than the Harvard alumni.

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Lol wut? Why just post nonsensical drivel?

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The absolute irony of using the best example of redundancy to say my post made no sense.

You libs need to read the dictionary before you employ your Dawson's Creek vocabulary.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/drivel

drivel: noun : NONSENSE


Don't waste your time reading such drivel.

DCAggie13y said:

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agdoc2001 said:

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$0 deductible insurance??? Holy crap, how much would that cost per employee?

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I own a small business. $5,500 - $7,000 per employee per year would be the rough cost depending on the plan and age of the workforce. The paid time off would also be pretty costly for a coffee shop.

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Great point that many overlook, including myself. I can give most all my team as much time off as they want, but certain employees require me to bring in someone to cover every hour of their work. A properly staffed retail location would have a HUGE increase in employee costs by offering paid time off.

Again, excellent point.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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Explain to me how smart people can be so dumb.

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Oh the stories I could tell

YouBet said:

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Mind boggling. Do they expect the city to come in and force the owners to keep their business open?

Democrats are morons. Dumbest people on the planet.

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They only expect the same treatment that was given to GM by the Bush administration.

OverSeas AG said:

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where are all the resident Libs/Democrats on TexAgs to defend the Union? I am waiting for them to tell us how this makes any financial sense and is just.

Of course these are the same folks that support KKK Joe and his corruption, can't tell what a woman is, support sexualization of children, the murder of children, untested vaccines, and the list goes on and on. They never explain any of that either. So I won't hold my breath they will explain this one.

At this point, insanity seems to be the only explanation for supporting any of the above, including the Union in this Post.

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I mean, TexAgs isn't exactly the best place to find these idiots. And that's a good thing.

fka ftc said:

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blacksox said:

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fka ftc said:

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Nothing says stupid lazy entitled arrogant ahole like an Ivy League degree.

The U of Phoenix alumni association has more earning power than the Harvard alumni.

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Lol wut? Why just post nonsensical drivel?

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The absolute irony of using the best example of redundancy to say my post made no sense.

You libs need to read the dictionary before you employ your Dawson's Creek vocabulary.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/drivel

drivel: noun : NONSENSE


Don't waste your time reading such drivel.

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But seriously, why do you think U of Phoenix grads earn more than Harvard grads? That's just asinine. Regardless of the relative quality of education, there's just no other way to get all those "Harvard connections" than actually going there.

Agthatbuilds said:

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Workers @ Darwin’s Ltd in Cambridge won a union last fall, but management has dragged its feet during bargaining for a first contract. 

Workers are fighting for:
✅$24/hour starting wage before tips
✅zero-deductible healthcare with low premiums
✅three weeks’ PTO each year pic.twitter.com/i6wy8o04ge

— Boston Socialist Alternative (@SocialistBoston) October 23, 2022

Something about other people's money and running out...

Barista Sam Swedberg, a member of the @DarwinsUnited action committee: "Rent is extremely high here, and to have thought for a moment that there might be a change [and] you might be able to think beyond the check for this month's rent… it's just gone now."https://t.co/Suw0TC3T9I

— GBH (@GBH) November 15, 2022

Why is rent so high?

Hey everyone, you may have heard the news. Steve Darwin is closing our Mt. Auburn St. location. Workers have not received a guarantee of their jobs, nor has he responded to our demands! Join us for a rally and march on the bus at 4:30pm tomorrow. Meet at Cambridge City Hall! pic.twitter.com/7VYZGU4VP1

— Darwin’s UNITED (@DarwinsUnited) October 29, 2022

Won't take this? You will indeed take this

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But they did respond to their demands lol… with big middle finger, what do they not get?

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agdoc2001 said:

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$0 deductible insurance??? Holy crap, how much would that cost per employee?

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I own a small business. $5,500 - $7,000 per employee per year would be the rough cost depending on the plan and age of the workforce. The paid time off would also be pretty costly for a coffee shop.

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Over my career, I had the occasion to advise many people who wanted to start a small business (5 to 25 employee sorts of things). My advice to all of them was not to provide health insurance. In many cases, their employees could get on their spouse's plan (let the spouse's employer bear the burden of health insurance) but tell them you are paying a higher wage rate to help make up for it. If times get a little lean, you can help offset that through lower wage increases until things turn around. But health insurance costs are only going to go up, jumping up a very high rate each and every year.

Do they really think they can throw a hissy fit and get their way?!?



They dumb!

one safe place said:

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DCAggie13y said:

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agdoc2001 said:

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$0 deductible insurance??? Holy crap, how much would that cost per employee?

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I own a small business. $5,500 - $7,000 per employee per year would be the rough cost depending on the plan and age of the workforce. The paid time off would also be pretty costly for a coffee shop.

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Over my career, I had the occasion to advise many people who wanted to start a small business (5 to 25 employee sorts of things). My advice to all of them was not to provide health insurance. In many cases, their employees could get on their spouse's plan (let the spouse's employer bear the burden of health insurance) but tell them you are paying a higher wage rate to help make up for it. If times get a little lean, you can help offset that through lower wage increases until things turn around. But health insurance costs are only going to go up, jumping up a very high rate each and every year.

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And you either cover that cost - giving the employee a raise that they don't see or appreciate - or they are forced to cover it and believe you're cutting their pay. It's quite the racket with the "evil," "rich" business owner getting hosed by a bunch of ne'er-do-wells like those in the OP.

AtlAg05 said:

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Funny thing about negotiations, both sides have the option to say NO.

Obviously the new union didn't even fathom that.

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They do now.

Fun fact: if I ever run into the owner, drinks are on me.