Stacey Abrams on Fetal Heart Beat at six weeks

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agjacent;s posts are trash and outrageous lies already debunked by not just all the experts, but by common sense.

The posts need to be removed. Flag them as false. To me, this crosses a line of spreading outright lies.
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agjacent said:

Tom Doniphon said:

You wanna kill babies, just own it... stop with the BS rewriting of science to fit your needs so you have less guilt over murder.
"kill babies" I know it must enrage you but the vast majority of people in this country don't consider a 3 month old fetus to be a "baby"

You wanna force unwilling women to give birth, just own it…
You wanna force raped women to give birth, just own it…
You wanna force abused little girls to give birth, just own it…
Oh please, the overwhelming majority of abortions are for convenience. "Unwilling women" were willing enough to engage in activities known to cause pregnancies. I am unwilling to go to prison, so I don't commit crimes.
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GeorgiAg
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The whole fetal heart beat is just to justify the 6 week ban. Women are late on their period and then have about a week to figure out they are preggers, then get a doctor appt? Not gonna happen. A six week ban is, in effect, a total ban.

Don't like abortions? Don't get one. I support a woman's right to make the decision in the first trimester. I don't like it, but I don't have a problem with it. After the first trimester, my opinion is that it's beyond gross and the government has the authority to intervene.

Oh and this B.S. about preaching personal responsibility. Hormones rage and people get drunk and slip up. Condoms break, etc... And dumb people are ... too dumb. Now you're gonna force a bunch of irresponsible morons to pump out crime babies.



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agjacent said:

Tom Doniphon said:

You wanna kill babies, just own it... stop with the BS rewriting of science to fit your needs so you have less guilt over murder.
"kill babies" I know it must enrage you but the vast majority of people in this country don't consider a 3 month old fetus to be a "baby"

You wanna force unwilling women to give birth, just own it…
You wanna force raped women to give birth, just own it…
You wanna force abused little girls to give birth, just own it…


I want to force irresponsible women to take responsibility for the life their choices created, rather than give them the option of legal murder. Absolutely. There are not other examples of times that we let one party's irresponsibility get solved by having another life killed. This covers 99% of the abortions you seek to protect.

I have no problem with a rape exception (which applies to less than 1% of these murders), though I certainly don't think it should be overtly encouraged. And I think it's reasonable that decision should be made within a couple of weeks (well before the 6 week heartbeat comes into play).

I'm also fine with it for mortality risk to mom, like an ectopic pregnancy, so long as there is a very good multi physician process for validating that determination.

I have zero issues owning all of that. My line in the sand certainly includes protecting innocent lives from being taken.
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Agjacent

Guarantee you if the country put what you just stated on a ballot with an honest vote (honest) about your statement that overwhelmingly you would lose. Stop believing propaganda polls.

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RAB91 said:

Planned Parenthood doing their best to help Abrams.
They should try a cork for her mouth.
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agjacent said:

Squadron7 said:

Manufactured sound?

What, like built into the software of the sonogram?



Yes, actually. Exactly like that. The machine detects electrical pulses and plays the sound of a heartbeat in time with said pulses. It could easily play the sound of a clown horn instead.
Do you understand that every heartbeat is an electrical pulses?

What the baby killers are saying is that the sound is not caused by actual valves opening and closing as they are not fully formed.

Unsure why that makes any difference as the valves do make noises several weeks post six weeks.

Why do you want to kill unborn babies so bad?

The whole argument is a sham.

Remember when the big thing was first trimester was "okay"?

I would always ask my pro abortion friends, what is the difference between a 90 day old baby and a 91 day old baby?

Not to even mention that docs can not even get that accurate on exact dates.
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It's a miracle. Stacy Abrams has changed "The Science".

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/community-family/planned-parenthood-changes-website-abrams-heartbeat-comments
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BadMoonRisin said:

It's a miracle. Stacy Abrams has changed "The Science".

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/community-family/planned-parenthood-changes-website-abrams-heartbeat-comments
So Ms. Abrams states that the whole fetal heartbeat thing is contrived so men could control women's(she did not define what a woman is)bodies.

Why does no press person ask her what about women(again I guess she could crawfish and say how do you define what a woman is)who vote for pro life candidates? Including those supporting the new more restricted laws.

Very sexist of Abrams IMHO.
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Somebody should tell that obese orca to prove her heartbeat with a sonogram or they are going to abort her with a bullet to the head. When they hear the heartbeat you could just say it's a manufactured noise and kill her off........we would all be better for it if she was aborted.
AggieUSMC
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It's not like this matters to people like Stacy Abrams anyway. They want it legal to kill babies in the womb regardless, heartbeat or not.
dermdoc
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GeorgiAg said:

The whole fetal heart beat is just to justify the 6 week ban. Women are late on their period and then have about a week to figure out they are preggers, then get a doctor appt? Not gonna happen. A six week ban is, in effect, a total ban.

Don't like abortions? Don't get one. I support a woman's right to make the decision in the first trimester. I don't like it, but I don't have a problem with it. After the first trimester, my opinion is that it's beyond gross and the government has the authority to intervene.

Oh and this B.S. about preaching personal responsibility. Hormones rage and people get drunk and slip up. Condoms break, etc... And dumb people are ... too dumb. Now you're gonna force a bunch of irresponsible morons to pump out crime babies.




Just curious on the first trimester deal, what is the difference between a 90 day old baby and a 91 day old baby?

And how accurate are docs on exact dates of delivery, conception, etc.?

And how do you know they will be "crime babies"?

Could be a doctor. Star athlete. Or just a human being.
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The Modern Democratic Party.

Disbelievers in Science.


They do not know what a human is, a woman is, a heartbeat is, a disease, a mental illness, etc.

If God created it (or nature for those that don't believe in God) they want to change it...

What it really boils down to...they want to undermine humanity so that there are no morals or values other than what they say is the right way. If that means they forget about science, then so be it. They will "fix" that too.

Funny they claim to be the party of science and rationality.... they are anything but.
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AggieUSMC said:

It's not like this matters to people like Stacy Abrams anyway. They want it legal to kill babies in the womb regardless, heartbeat or not.

In the womb?

People like Abrams want to be able to hit the baby's head with a hammer the second it emerges.
dermdoc
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It is truly amazing that "doctors" are saying an electrical impulse is not a heartbeat.

What they are describing is the sound made by blood flowing over heart valves. Not an actual heartbeat.

How prejudiced do you have to be in your thought processes as a doc to state this?
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Quote:

How prejudiced do you have to be in your thought processes as a doc to state this?
This is their religion. Unfortunately for them, there is no salvation in their religion because their God is false.
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Aren't you the poster that went nuts for the Russia Russia Russia BS? You're really making a name for yourself around here. The Russia thing I could laugh at. Killing babies makes me flat out angry. Your so wrong about when it's a baby.
dermdoc
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Think about it. I think all non docs know that EKGs measure heart beats, correct?

And it is an electrical signal the EKG measures not the sound of blood flow over valves, correct?

I mean, this is just an outright lie.
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annie88
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This is more accurate.

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agjacent said:

Squadron7 said:

Manufactured sound?

What, like built into the software of the sonogram?



Yes, actually. Exactly like that. The machine detects electrical pulses and plays the sound of a heartbeat in time with said pulses. It could easily play the sound of a clown horn instead.


Horse ****

Perhaps you've never been with a woman, much less a pregnant one. Had you, you might have had the experience of the home listening device to hear the heartbeat and dealt with the mother when the fetus was in a position not allowing us to hear the heartbeat.

Unless you are on the heart it just makes a bunch of static sounds, only the heart sounds that way

Why is the left constantly changing definitions to suit their views? Most of their views they must know to be wrong or hard to belive.

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Enough already


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BadMoonRisin said:

I can actually see Margaret Sanger sitting on this same stage, telling the same people the exact same quote.

They revere her legacy. Will they ever acknowledge that she was a eugenicist that actively wanted to control the growth of "BIPOC" that she referred to as "weeds"?
"We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population."
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nactownag said:

You mean when I heard my daughters heartbeat at 6 weeks and then at 36 weeks when we didn't hear it anymore and found out she was not alive that whole thing was manufactured? This lady can not be allowed to have a voice in America.
She is no lady. She may be a woman --- and that might be debatable --- but she is no lady.
dermdoc
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Simple questions for Ms.Abrams. And for all the "doctors" who sacrificed their integrity for politics.


What are heart beats?

And how do you record them?
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pacecar02 said:

agjacent said:

Squadron7 said:

Manufactured sound?

What, like built into the software of the sonogram?



Yes, actually. Exactly like that. The machine detects electrical pulses and plays the sound of a heartbeat in time with said pulses. It could easily play the sound of a clown horn instead.


Horse ****

Perhaps you've never been with a woman, much less a pregnant one. Had you, you might have had the experience of the home listening device to hear the heartbeat and dealt with the mother when the fetus was in a position not allowing us to hear the heartbeat.

Unless you are on the heart it just makes a bunch of static sounds, only the heart sounds that way

Why is the left constantly changing definitions to suit their views? Most of their views they must know to be wrong or hard to belive.

Men can be women
There are 3thousand some odd genders, its a spectrum
No, ******ation has a spectrum to it

If you don't like women with *****es, your the biggot
Latin x
Words are violence
Maga is Hitler




Enough already



Maybe he only hears clown horns because he lives in clown world.
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Quote:

The Diagnostic Medical Sonography program is located in the Downtown Health Sciences Center (formerly El Centro's Center for Allied Health and Nursing) one block northwest from the El Centro campus in downtown Dallas. The center comprises 55 classrooms and labs that contain some of the most advanced equipment available to educate health care students.

The center's high-tech equipment includes:
  • Teaching labs that simulate surgical and hospital settings for specific program applications.
  • Microphones and cameras in each classroom to capture audio and video instruction.
  • Three classrooms with videoconferencing for two-way viewing.
  • Two simulation labs with computerized patient mannequins.


https://www.dallascollege.edu/cd/credit/diagnostic-medical-sonography/ecc/pages/default.aspx

Seems like a lot of resources to teach someone to play pre-recorded clown horns...
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i lol'd
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BadMoonRisin said:

Stacey Abrams: President of Earf

Doesn't understand biology past the 5th grade.

These are our "leaders".


To be fair, she never made it past 5th grade…
 
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