Hopefully Fetterwoman loses

New independent @trafalgar_group
#PASen #Poll (9/13-15) shows neck&neck race w/small #Fetterman lead #papol:

47.7% @JohnFetterman
45.9% @DrOz
3.5% @Erik4Senate
0.5%   Other
2.4%   Und

See Report: https://t.co/7fkeZ6WDcu pic.twitter.com/OzLPjxw6w8

— Robert C. Cahaly (@RobertCahaly) September 16, 2022

The fact that Fetterwoman is in this race at all is a monument ( or maybe a waypoint) to our collective stupidity.

Pennsylvania has some moronic people if almost half of them are willing to cast their vote for a guy that can't articulate a sentence because he brain is fried from a stroke. And NO him having had a stroke is not an excuse.

This will never go the other direction, it will only continue to trend towards Oz as Fetterman is a disaster every time he opens his mouth.

What will happen is the people polling for Fetterman just won't vote. Many will vote in other races but I see a significant portion, maybe even 10% of Dems, that will be unable to pull the lever for him. You can't vote for that disaster.

Oz will need to be up by at least 7% to win because he has to be outside the margin of fraud with real votes.

Beating Philly and its 125% turnout, in certain precincts, is hard to do.

Neck and neck is an interesting way to put it.

Fetterman campaign says Dem nominee is healthy after two cognitive tests, won't provide documentation: Report https://t.co/Dra1TM0fUw

— Fox News (@FoxNews) September 16, 2022

Bonfire1996 said:

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This will never go the other direction, it will only continue to trend towards Oz as Fetterman is a disaster every time he opens his mouth.

What will happen is the people polling for Fetterman just won't vote. Many will vote in other races but I see a significant portion, maybe even 10% of Dems, that will be unable to pull the lever for him. You can't vote for that disaster.

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I think a lot of Dems that vote will vote for him. Just about lowering their turnout or getting independents to not vote for fetterneck.

Rapier108 said:

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Fetterman campaign says Dem nominee is healthy after two cognitive tests, won't provide documentation: Report https://t.co/Dra1TM0fUw

— Fox News (@FoxNews) September 16, 2022

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Imagine if this was Trump. They'd impeach him for this.

Pennsylvania has been fortified. The socialist stroke victim that can't even speak will find just the amount of mail-in ballots he needs.

Good thing he shows signs of being as smart as a high school grad. The US Senate average IQ may even go up, at least for the blue side.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/15/us/politics/fetterman-stroke-health.html

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On Wednesday, his campaign said he had taken neurocognitive tests, mentioning two: the Saint Louis University Mental Status Examination, administered on July 14, and the Repeatable Battery for the Assessment of Neuropsychological Status, or RBANS, taken on Wednesday morning. The campaign said his score on the St. Louis test was 28 out of 30. That score is typical for people with at least a high school education

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"Fetterman campaign says Dem nominee is healthy after two cognitive tests ..."

Oz is toast.

The sympathy vote will go to the stuttering stroked out Shrek.

(OH my Clob..... that was insensitive!)

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On Wednesday, his campaign said he had taken neurocognitive tests, mentioning two: the Saint Louis University Mental Status Examination, administered on July 14, and the Repeatable Battery for the Assessment of Neuropsychological Status, or RBANS, taken on Wednesday morning. The campaign said his score on the St. Louis test was 28 out of 30. That score is typical for people with at least a high school education

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LOL. Well, if a high school level of education is his ceiling, he will fit right in with the Democratic Caucus in the Senate.

more than likely the DNC will tell him to hunker down in a basement the next 2 months. worked for the president.

fka ftc said:

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Good thing he shows signs of being as smart as a high school grad. The US Senate average IQ may even go up, at least for the blue side.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/15/us/politics/fetterman-stroke-health.html

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On Wednesday, his campaign said he had taken neurocognitive tests, mentioning two: the Saint Louis University Mental Status Examination, administered on July 14, and the Repeatable Battery for the Assessment of Neuropsychological Status, or RBANS, taken on Wednesday morning. The campaign said his score on the St. Louis test was 28 out of 30. That score is typical for people with at least a high school education

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If a 28/30 is typical for a high school education the test seems like it has a strange scale.

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If a 28/30 is typical for a high school education the test seems like it has a strange scale.

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Seems odd to me too. But cognitive tests are not exactly the same as an IQ test so not sure where the edication level is even relevant. Ability to concentrate, perhps?

This poll:

-- oversamples ds by 4%
-- has a 16% response from 25-34
-- is 53/47 women
-- got a response rate of LESS than 1.5%

Fetterman is Lt.Gov., has better name recognition, and he only has -- with this stacked poll -- a point and a half lead this early in the game. This is actually pretty good news for Oz. I'd say Oz's real lead is somewhere around 3%.

If he's "healthy," why would they have had him take two cognitive tests?

91AggieLawyer said:

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This poll:

-- oversamples ds by 4%
-- has a 16% response from 25-34
-- is 53/47 women
-- got a response rate of LESS than 1.5%

Fetterman is Lt.Gov., has better name recognition, and he only has -- with this stacked poll -- a point and a half lead this early in the game. This is actually pretty good news for Oz. I'd say Oz's real lead is somewhere around 3%.

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The party breakdown is actually pretty spot on with registration numbers. Tralfalgar used a sample of 46.7% Dem, 42.7% Republican, and 10.6% other. Party registration numbers in PA are 45.6% Democrat, 39.5% Republican, 14.8% unaffiliated or other party. 53F/47M has been the gender breakdown from last several election cycles in PA.

Tralfalgar does their homework and is one of the few pollsters that does a good job. They have been expanding where they do their polls this cycle, so I will be interested to see how their results fare compared to last couple of cycles when they have been one of the most accurate.

How a stroked out ogre is even in the running says a lot about the judgement of liberals

91AggieLawyer said:

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This poll:

-- oversamples ds by 4%
-- has a 16% response from 25-34
-- is 53/47 women
-- got a response rate of LESS than 1.5%

Fetterman is Lt.Gov., has better name recognition, and he only has -- with this stacked poll -- a point and a half lead this early in the game. This is actually pretty good news for Oz. I'd say Oz's real lead is somewhere around 3%.

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Trafalgar is a leans R pollster if anything although they've been fairly accurate and definitely more accurate than the media polling. There's still time, for what it's worth Peoples Pundit Baris thinks Rs will win PA.

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The fact that Fetterwoman is in this race at all is a monument ( or maybe a waypoint) to our collective stupidity.

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I don't know, the libtards view him as another moron they can control. Like prez poopie drawers.

So cute Rs think they can overcome fraudulent votes with real ones.

91AggieLawyer said:

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This poll:

-- oversamples ds by 4%
-- has a 16% response from 25-34
-- is 53/47 women
-- got a response rate of LESS than 1.5%

Fetterman is Lt.Gov., has better name recognition, and he only has -- with this stacked poll -- a point and a half lead this early in the game. This is actually pretty good news for Oz. I'd say Oz's real lead is somewhere around 3%.

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They over sample Dems, because it is a Dem state, it actually makes the poll more accurate. Actually with Pennsylvania they could run it at +8 Dem and it will still be accuarate.

With more registered Dems and the cheating

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Pennsylvania has some moronic people if almost half of them are willing to cast their vote for a guy that can't articulate a sentence because he brain is fried from a stroke. And NO him having had a stroke is not an excuse.

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They're not voting for Fetterman. They're voting for the party or against the other party. Most probably don't even know who Fetterman is or anything about him if they do.

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Spotted Ag said:

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Pennsylvania has some moronic people if almost half of them are willing to cast their vote for a guy that can't articulate a sentence because he brain is fried from a stroke. And NO him having had a stroke is not an excuse.

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They're not voting for Fetterman. They're voting for the party or against the other party. Most probably don't even know who Fetterman is or anything about him if they do.

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This.

They have a gubernatorial ticket. People voted for Wolfe as Governor, not his running mate for Lt. Governor.

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91AggieLawyer said:

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This poll:

-- oversamples ds by 4%
-- has a 16% response from 25-34
-- is 53/47 women
-- got a response rate of LESS than 1.5%

Fetterman is Lt.Gov., has better name recognition, and he only has -- with this stacked poll -- a point and a half lead this early in the game. This is actually pretty good news for Oz. I'd say Oz's real lead is somewhere around 3%.

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The party breakdown is actually pretty spot on with registration numbers. Tralfalgar used a sample of 46.7% Dem, 42.7% Republican, and 10.6% other. Party registration numbers in PA are 45.6% Democrat, 39.5% Republican, 14.8% unaffiliated or other party. 53F/47M has been the gender breakdown from last several election cycles in PA.

Tralfalgar does their homework and is one of the few pollsters that does a good job. They have been expanding where they do their polls this cycle, so I will be interested to see how their results fare compared to last couple of cycles when they have been one of the most accurate.

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I've bolded the points you've either ignored or brushed aside, any one of which I think makes my point. The so-called independents are not going to come out in support of this clown. In fact, I'm betting Oz is the candidate they seem to suggest they want to see.

Plus, if you are right about the gender breakdown (you don't document that, and the ballot harvesting of 2020 would skew any numbers one way or the other), that would seem to work somewhat in Oz's favors once some women get to know him as a candidate -- which I would argue so far they haven't. They know him from daytime TV. Right now many are polling d just because that's what they answer.

I'm still not persuaded by this poll. You can be if you want. We'll see on election day. Oz is not my choice, but Fetterman is a disaster and if PA elects that idiot, they're going to get what they deserve. He's going to make Al Franken look like the genius Senator of all time. What committees are they going to put him on? Are they going to let him give speeches?

Its going to be a ****-show. And fun to watch. Almost worth it.

Rapier108 said:

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Fetterman campaign says Dem nominee is healthy after two cognitive tests, won't provide documentation: Report https://t.co/Dra1TM0fUw

— Fox News (@FoxNews) September 16, 2022

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"We called the WH doc in and he compared him to the POTUS"

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fixer said:

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The fact that Fetterwoman is in this race at all is a monument ( or maybe a waypoint) to our collective stupidity.

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I don't know, the libtards view him as another moron they can control. Like prez poopie drawers.

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One rumor going around is they plan to have him resign after a few months, for health reasons of course.

Then the Democrat governor (likely to win the election) will appoint his wife to replace him.

His wife is an avowed Marxist, and I'm not using that as hyperbole.

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One rumor going around is they plan to have him resign after a few months, for health reasons of course.

Then the Democrat governor (likely to win the election) will appoint his wife to replace him.

His wife is an avowed Marxist, and I'm not using that as hyperbole.

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Sadly, I can believe that easily.

fixer said:

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The fact that Fetterwoman is in this race at all is a monument ( or maybe a waypoint) to our collective stupidity.

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The fact that it is between fetterman and Oz is a testament to our stupidity. Any party that end up with these guys on the ticket is hot garbage.

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Fetterman reportedly took two cognitive tests

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Was one given to him and the other to the lump on his neck?

Good channel that offers insight on all the mid-term races. Red Eagle is currently projecting OZ at +3. Granted he's going up against the 3am Machine that will have Goiterman up by 800,000 votes by dawn.