This is just straight Medical Malpractice on Hormone blockers

5,834 Views | 97 Replies | Last: 3 yr ago by aggie93
aggie93
How long do you want to ignore this user?


You can't just "pause" puberty. There are so many consequences to this and we don't even know most of them. This is literally encouraging kids to become a science experiment that will cause irreparable harm while she makes it sound like this is just a "Hey, just take some time and explore your gender identity!"

One of the worst things about the last few years is the little faith I had in government health organizations is not only gone I openly distrust everything from them now and I am starting to really question individual doctors. You really need to do your own research and be careful about every medical decision when they encourage you to just take pills.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
Paradise Ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?

First, do no harm.

She didn't even make it to whatever's second.
Jason C.
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Paradise Ag said:


First, do no harm.

She didn't even make it to whatever's second.


Exactly. The new rule is: "First, lower your voice."
TxTarpon
How long do you want to ignore this user?
SB8 Style Bill so private citizens can sue MDs like this and get cash!!!!
Cromagnum
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Sounds pretty groomerish.
Clown_World
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Can we please not talk about the legions of people who want to chemcially and physically mutilate children and get back on topic about how Donald Trump is literally Hitler...
Sq4fish83
How long do you want to ignore this user?
aggie93 said:



You can't just "pause" puberty. There are so many consequences to this and we don't even know most of them. This is literally encouraging kids to become a science experiment that will cause irreparable harm while she makes it sound like this is just a "Hey, just take some time and explore your gender identity!"

One of the worst things about the last few years is the little faith I had in government health organizations is not only gone I openly distrust everything from them now and I am starting to really question individual doctors. You really need to do your own research and be careful about every medical decision when they encourage you to just take pills.

A certain "fan" will be here shortly to defend and derail
torrid
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Jason C. said:

Paradise Ag said:


First, do no harm.

She didn't even make it to whatever's second.


Exactly. The new rule is: "First, lower your voice."
Not gonna happen with puberty blockers.
ProgN
How long do you want to ignore this user?
How do these soulless *******s graduate with a degree and then permitted to permanently damage children?
Urban Ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
It's amazing what void liberalism is filling in so many people that overrides any sense of basic facts, logic, and reason. It's no different than believing we can maintain our quality of life, standard of living, and economy with green energy. Or that we could even mine enough materials for the batteries for the EV's to replace combustion engines.

How does the party of science come to the conclusion that it is safe or healthy to chemically block puberty? It simply blows my mind. Even if you did think a minor was qualified to submit to such therapy or surgeries, which is criminal in itself, this is simply beyond comprehension.

This is cultish behavior on display.
samurai_science
How long do you want to ignore this user?
https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/07/28/fda-slaps-warning-on-puberty-blockers/

Puberty blockers earned a warning label from the Food and Drug Administration earlier this month after six minors (ages 5-12) experienced severe symptoms. The puberty blockers in question are known scientifically as "gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) substances."
policywonk98
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Real Science and medical science seems to be on an increasingly fast march to their death.

Where are the voices of sanity within these communities?

There just is no way that real science proves that it's healthy to medically change the entire natural biological hormonal course of human bodies at the age of 5, 10, 15, 20.

sleepybeagle
How long do you want to ignore this user?
policywonk98 said:

Real Science and medical science seems to be on an increasingly fast march to their death.

Where are the voices of sanity within these communities?

There just is no way that real science proves that it's healthy to medically change the entire natural biological hormonal course of human bodies at the age of 5, 10, 15, 20.
This. Science is already broken and gone, but perhaps there's still hope for medicine.

Voices of sanity need to stand up and LOUDLY blow the whistle on this stuff...

DallasAg 94
How long do you want to ignore this user?
DallasAg 94
How long do you want to ignore this user?
whytho987654
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Republican states need to take a page out of the dem playbook and legislate this out of existence without outright banning it. How do we do this? Make it so that only Urologists can provide such treatment. Urologists are the content experts on hrt, so based on evidence-based medicine they objectively provide the best treatment. Now how does this legislate it out of existence? Urologists by and large are extremely conservative and would not take on a case like op posted.
American Hardwood
How long do you want to ignore this user?
The left is hostile to absolute truths. They need gray areas and flexibility to coerce and confuse people.

Real science deals in absolute truths. It's no wonder they have gone to great lengths to undermine it.
TXAGFAN
How long do you want to ignore this user?
whytho987654 said:

Republican states need to take a page out of the dem playbook and legislate this out of existence without outright banning it. How do we do this? Make it so that only Urologists can provide such treatment. Urologists are the content experts on hrt, so based on evidence-based medicine they objectively provide the best treatment. Now how does this legislate it out of existence? Urologists by and large are extremely conservative and would not take on a case like op posted.
Urologists? Incorrect.

Those are docs for your junk and prostate. Have a great day.
whytho987654
How long do you want to ignore this user?
TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

Republican states need to take a page out of the dem playbook and legislate this out of existence without outright banning it. How do we do this? Make it so that only Urologists can provide such treatment. Urologists are the content experts on hrt, so based on evidence-based medicine they objectively provide the best treatment. Now how does this legislate it out of existence? Urologists by and large are extremely conservative and would not take on a case like op posted.
Urologists? Incorrect.

Those are docs for your junk and prostate. Have a great day.
Lol they do much more than that. Ever heard of testosterone?
TXAGFAN
How long do you want to ignore this user?
whytho987654 said:

TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

Republican states need to take a page out of the dem playbook and legislate this out of existence without outright banning it. How do we do this? Make it so that only Urologists can provide such treatment. Urologists are the content experts on hrt, so based on evidence-based medicine they objectively provide the best treatment. Now how does this legislate it out of existence? Urologists by and large are extremely conservative and would not take on a case like op posted.
Urologists? Incorrect.

Those are docs for your junk and prostate. Have a great day.
Lol they do much more than that. Ever heard of testosterone?
Yes, but endocrinologists are specialized in the area you think urologists are. Lots of docs can and do prescribe HRT, glad you get yours from your conservative urologist.
IslanderAg04
How long do you want to ignore this user?
They're also used to chemically castrate pedophiles.
whytho987654
How long do you want to ignore this user?
TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

Republican states need to take a page out of the dem playbook and legislate this out of existence without outright banning it. How do we do this? Make it so that only Urologists can provide such treatment. Urologists are the content experts on hrt, so based on evidence-based medicine they objectively provide the best treatment. Now how does this legislate it out of existence? Urologists by and large are extremely conservative and would not take on a case like op posted.
Urologists? Incorrect.

Those are docs for your junk and prostate. Have a great day.
Lol they do much more than that. Ever heard of testosterone?
Yes, but endocrinologists are specialized in the area you think urologists are. Lots of docs can and do prescribe HRT, glad you get yours from your conservative urologist.
Endocrinologists refer patients to urology for testosterone therapy. Urology has a whole field dedicated to sexual hormone replacement, not to mention they are also the surgeons dedicated to that field as well (gender reassignment), so yes they are the experts. Sorry you don't like it because they are conservative. Endo deals primarily with diabetes now and adrenal insufficiencies.

source- 4th year med student
TXAGFAN
How long do you want to ignore this user?
whytho987654 said:

TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

Republican states need to take a page out of the dem playbook and legislate this out of existence without outright banning it. How do we do this? Make it so that only Urologists can provide such treatment. Urologists are the content experts on hrt, so based on evidence-based medicine they objectively provide the best treatment. Now how does this legislate it out of existence? Urologists by and large are extremely conservative and would not take on a case like op posted.
Urologists? Incorrect.

Those are docs for your junk and prostate. Have a great day.
Lol they do much more than that. Ever heard of testosterone?
Yes, but endocrinologists are specialized in the area you think urologists are. Lots of docs can and do prescribe HRT, glad you get yours from your conservative urologist.
Endocrinologists refer patients to urology for testosterone therapy. Urology has a whole field dedicated to sexual hormone replacement, not to mention they are also the surgeons dedicated to that field as well (gender reassignment), so yes they are the experts. Sorry you don't like it because they are conservative. Endo deals primarily with diabetes now and adrenal insufficiencies.

source- 4th year med student
Congrats 4th year Med student. You also know that medicine is woefully behind in this area so while urologists can and do treat this (never said they didn't), it's created a massive industry where they're prescribed by PCP's with insufficient training (eg biote) and HRT clinics for those who don't have a doctor willing to do so.

Anyways…can't wait to see more legislation from GOP restricting peoples rights for bodily autonomy and ability to receive treatments advised by doctors. Seems to be working out so well for them on the abortion issue.
cbaker20
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Urologists actually prescribe gnrh analogues more frequently than a lot of specialties. They use them to treat prostate cancer by starving it of hormones that feed it. Anyone who has had to take them can tell you they are not pleasant drugs to take. "Pausing puberty" sounds cute and harmless. skeletal loss and decalcification, fractures due to depriving a body of normal hormones necessary for health, less so.


aggie93
How long do you want to ignore this user?
TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

Republican states need to take a page out of the dem playbook and legislate this out of existence without outright banning it. How do we do this? Make it so that only Urologists can provide such treatment. Urologists are the content experts on hrt, so based on evidence-based medicine they objectively provide the best treatment. Now how does this legislate it out of existence? Urologists by and large are extremely conservative and would not take on a case like op posted.
Urologists? Incorrect.

Those are docs for your junk and prostate. Have a great day.
Lol they do much more than that. Ever heard of testosterone?
Yes, but endocrinologists are specialized in the area you think urologists are. Lots of docs can and do prescribe HRT, glad you get yours from your conservative urologist.
Endocrinologists refer patients to urology for testosterone therapy. Urology has a whole field dedicated to sexual hormone replacement, not to mention they are also the surgeons dedicated to that field as well (gender reassignment), so yes they are the experts. Sorry you don't like it because they are conservative. Endo deals primarily with diabetes now and adrenal insufficiencies.

source- 4th year med student
Congrats 4th year Med student. You also know that medicine is woefully behind in this area so while urologists can and do treat this (never said they didn't), it's created a massive industry where they're prescribed by PCP's with insufficient training (eg biote) and HRT clinics for those who don't have a doctor willing to do so.

Anyways…can't wait to see more legislation from GOP restricting peoples rights for bodily autonomy and ability to receive treatments advised by doctors. Sms to be working out so well for them on the abortion issue.
So you think that minors should be able to chemically castrate themselves because "it's just a pause"? Or you think that the issue of "minors should be able to take hormone blockers and gender surgery" is a winning issue?

This isn't remotely like abortion. A LOT of people have no idea that something like this is even being done and is legal. Most of those people think this is insane. it definitely is going to cost the GOP with the Trans vote and the hardcore social justice warriors though, that's certainly a block they depend on.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
TXAGFAN
How long do you want to ignore this user?
aggie93 said:

TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

Republican states need to take a page out of the dem playbook and legislate this out of existence without outright banning it. How do we do this? Make it so that only Urologists can provide such treatment. Urologists are the content experts on hrt, so based on evidence-based medicine they objectively provide the best treatment. Now how does this legislate it out of existence? Urologists by and large are extremely conservative and would not take on a case like op posted.
Urologists? Incorrect.

Those are docs for your junk and prostate. Have a great day.
Lol they do much more than that. Ever heard of testosterone?
Yes, but endocrinologists are specialized in the area you think urologists are. Lots of docs can and do prescribe HRT, glad you get yours from your conservative urologist.
Endocrinologists refer patients to urology for testosterone therapy. Urology has a whole field dedicated to sexual hormone replacement, not to mention they are also the surgeons dedicated to that field as well (gender reassignment), so yes they are the experts. Sorry you don't like it because they are conservative. Endo deals primarily with diabetes now and adrenal insufficiencies.

source- 4th year med student
Congrats 4th year Med student. You also know that medicine is woefully behind in this area so while urologists can and do treat this (never said they didn't), it's created a massive industry where they're prescribed by PCP's with insufficient training (eg biote) and HRT clinics for those who don't have a doctor willing to do so.

Anyways…can't wait to see more legislation from GOP restricting peoples rights for bodily autonomy and ability to receive treatments advised by doctors. Sms to be working out so well for them on the abortion issue.
So you think that minors should be able to chemically castrate themselves because "it's just a pause"? Or you think that the issue of "minors should be able to take hormone blockers and gender surgery" is a winning issue?

This isn't remotely like abortion. A LOT of people have no idea that something like this is even being done and is legal. Most of those people think this is insane. it definitely is going to cost the GOP with the Trans vote and the hardcore social justice warriors though, that's certainly a block they depend on.
I don't really have a strong opinion on it honestly other than I think parents who go down this route are dealing with a situation I wouldn't wish on anyone. I just find the solutions to these problems people come up with here comical. I don't think this and abortion is the same, but when guys like Patrick start to play doctor in their legislation I get annoyed.
aggie93
How long do you want to ignore this user?
TXAGFAN said:

aggie93 said:

TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

Republican states need to take a page out of the dem playbook and legislate this out of existence without outright banning it. How do we do this? Make it so that only Urologists can provide such treatment. Urologists are the content experts on hrt, so based on evidence-based medicine they objectively provide the best treatment. Now how does this legislate it out of existence? Urologists by and large are extremely conservative and would not take on a case like op posted.
Urologists? Incorrect.

Those are docs for your junk and prostate. Have a great day.
Lol they do much more than that. Ever heard of testosterone?
Yes, but endocrinologists are specialized in the area you think urologists are. Lots of docs can and do prescribe HRT, glad you get yours from your conservative urologist.
Endocrinologists refer patients to urology for testosterone therapy. Urology has a whole field dedicated to sexual hormone replacement, not to mention they are also the surgeons dedicated to that field as well (gender reassignment), so yes they are the experts. Sorry you don't like it because they are conservative. Endo deals primarily with diabetes now and adrenal insufficiencies.

source- 4th year med student
Congrats 4th year Med student. You also know that medicine is woefully behind in this area so while urologists can and do treat this (never said they didn't), it's created a massive industry where they're prescribed by PCP's with insufficient training (eg biote) and HRT clinics for those who don't have a doctor willing to do so.

Anyways…can't wait to see more legislation from GOP restricting peoples rights for bodily autonomy and ability to receive treatments advised by doctors. Sms to be working out so well for them on the abortion issue.
So you think that minors should be able to chemically castrate themselves because "it's just a pause"? Or you think that the issue of "minors should be able to take hormone blockers and gender surgery" is a winning issue?

This isn't remotely like abortion. A LOT of people have no idea that something like this is even being done and is legal. Most of those people think this is insane. it definitely is going to cost the GOP with the Trans vote and the hardcore social justice warriors though, that's certainly a block they depend on.
I don't really have a strong opinion on it honestly other than I think parents who go down this route are dealing with a situation I wouldn't wish on anyone. I just find the solutions to these problems people come up with here comical. I don't think this and abortion is the same, but when guys like Patrick start to play doctor in their legislation I get annoyed.
I don't like a lot about Patrick either but this is the kind of issue that will get guys like him elected, 80% of folks oppose minors being able to take these kinds of drugs and surgeries. See this is where you should really be pushing for those in the gay community to stand up to this stuff. It's predatory to give confused kids the impression they can just pause puberty or change their body permanently. These are permanent changes that a kid has no way of understanding. When the gay community doesn't stand up to this it forces people to choose all or none and that's not going to end well. It shows that there are no limits and it equates something people mostly agree with like gay marriage with saying kid should be able to take chemical castration drugs and cut off their breasts. It destroys the credibility of adults who simply have different sexual interests by mixing them with this lunacy.

I agree this has to be hard on a parent but virtually all of the time sex changes are not the answer. You can't just change your sex without severe consequences and you will never function properly. The problem is once they realize this it is usually too late and the changes have been made. The fact that the target of this stuff is kids actually pre puberty or going through puberty makes it 100x worse. Puberty is change, it is the entire purpose of shifting from childhood to adulthood and most people don't become comfortable in their own bodies until after it is over.

BTW, another reason you should be alarmed is this is an attack on the gay community. It is telling a boy who likes feminine things that maybe he is a girl and not that he is gay. It's telling a tomboy or a lesbian that she is Non binary or a man. It's doing this before they have a chance to even understand what that really means by drugs and surgery that permanently changes them. BTW, I have little doubt the depression and suicide rates for kids that do this stuff is going to be astronomical down the road. That's not society it's just nature, we aren't meant to change sexes.

"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
hbtheduce
How long do you want to ignore this user?
TXAGFAN said:

aggie93 said:

TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

TXAGFAN said:

whytho987654 said:

Republican states need to take a page out of the dem playbook and legislate this out of existence without outright banning it. How do we do this? Make it so that only Urologists can provide such treatment. Urologists are the content experts on hrt, so based on evidence-based medicine they objectively provide the best treatment. Now how does this legislate it out of existence? Urologists by and large are extremely conservative and would not take on a case like op posted.
Urologists? Incorrect.

Those are docs for your junk and prostate. Have a great day.
Lol they do much more than that. Ever heard of testosterone?
Yes, but endocrinologists are specialized in the area you think urologists are. Lots of docs can and do prescribe HRT, glad you get yours from your conservative urologist.
Endocrinologists refer patients to urology for testosterone therapy. Urology has a whole field dedicated to sexual hormone replacement, not to mention they are also the surgeons dedicated to that field as well (gender reassignment), so yes they are the experts. Sorry you don't like it because they are conservative. Endo deals primarily with diabetes now and adrenal insufficiencies.

source- 4th year med student
Congrats 4th year Med student. You also know that medicine is woefully behind in this area so while urologists can and do treat this (never said they didn't), it's created a massive industry where they're prescribed by PCP's with insufficient training (eg biote) and HRT clinics for those who don't have a doctor willing to do so.

Anyways…can't wait to see more legislation from GOP restricting peoples rights for bodily autonomy and ability to receive treatments advised by doctors. Sms to be working out so well for them on the abortion issue.
So you think that minors should be able to chemically castrate themselves because "it's just a pause"? Or you think that the issue of "minors should be able to take hormone blockers and gender surgery" is a winning issue?

This isn't remotely like abortion. A LOT of people have no idea that something like this is even being done and is legal. Most of those people think this is insane. it definitely is going to cost the GOP with the Trans vote and the hardcore social justice warriors though, that's certainly a block they depend on.
I don't really have a strong opinion on it honestly other than I think parents who go down this route are dealing with a situation I wouldn't wish on anyone. I just find the solutions to these problems people come up with here comical. I don't think this and abortion is the same, but when guys like Patrick start to play doctor in their legislation I get annoyed.


Eating disorders are a tough situation for a family as well.

But you would be rightly horrified if parents let their anorexic child get liposuction.

Sterilizing your child for wokeness? All cool.
FIDO95
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Don't want to consider the perspective of a medical student? Fair enough. I'm board certified in Pediatrics and have over 20 years experience. I doubt you will consider my prospective as well because it falls outside your selection bias. But here it is anyway, ...This therapy for children is nothing short of child abuse.

Thalidomide was a great drug for nausea and vomiting in pregnant women in the 70s. It was only after several years and tens of thousands of birth defects did it become obvious the treatment was worse then the symptom. The treatment of prepubescent children with hormone therapy and surgery will rank higher up that "oops chart" for heralded treatments that made things worse. I will not have that on my conscience.

To be clear, gender dysphoria is a very real condition and those patients deserve sympathy and support. An adult wanting to transition should have the right to the medical procedure. But consider this, would you consider it appropriate for a 10 year to get a tattoo of Paw Patrol knowing full well they are likely to not be interested in Paw Patrol in a few years? Most children with gender dysphoria will have those symptoms resolve by the end of adolescence. If your an adult and still want a Paw Patrol tattoo, more power to you. However, for a parent to allow or encourage tattooing up their child is wrong, no matter how bad the child thinks they need it. Clearly having ink in your skin isn't equal to altering your internal hormones. I suspect most on the left would agree that allowing a child to get the tattoo is wrong. Yet, in people's rabid pursuit of social virtue signaling, the idea of sterilizing a child is viewed as courageous, honorable, and necessary.

Prior to the last couple of years, I have had 2 patients that presented before 7-8 years old, both males... which is by far the most common presentation. What I am seeing now is a massive increase (4 in the past 18 months) in teenage females with gender dysphoria symptoms. I say symptoms because I'm convinced that a majority of these are not have gender dysphoria but rather "Folie deux" where social media has amplified a medical condition. If any of those young girls end up getting encouraged to sterilize themselves and later regret it, I will happily take the stand to denounce any and all involved in that process as guilty of malice and malpractice.

TXAGFAN
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Two thoughts:
1) Gay people and trans people have been aligned for some time because they have common enemies. That's the bottom line on that complicated relationship. Until recently with all the propaganda re: grooming, gay people were largely left alone as we've become a large voting block. Instead republicans have been chasing trans issues as they are a smaller and more complicated group - as you said there's a lot more consensus about trans people within the party.
2) I know the new narrative with big thinkers, like country music spouses, is that people are receiving gender related therapy/procedures/drugs because they're going through a tomboy phase or are a little more feminine. I'm sorry, I just don't see that happening. Are there maybe some bad actors pushing that narrative? Sure, there are all kinds of ****ty parents (drug addicts, people who disown their gay kids, abusers, etc). They sit amongst you at work, in the pews, etc. I just don't get the fire and brimstone from republicans on trans issues, it's such a small group and states focusing on it have much bigger issues. For example, MS found time to pass trans related bills in 2021, but their infrastructure is so bad they don't have water in their capital (among other things like education, infant mortality, food insecurity, etc).
TXAGFAN
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Great. I didn't say medical doctors shouldn't have discretion in their care, quite the opposite.

Your med school friend is proposing legislation restricting doctors ability to perform their jobs. Are you good with that as a concept?
RGLAG85
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Urban Ag said:

It's amazing what void liberalism is filling in so many people that overrides any sense of basic facts, logic, and reason. It's no different than believing we can maintain our quality of life, standard of living, and economy with green energy. Or that we could even mine enough materials for the batteries for the EV's to replace combustion engines.

How does the party of science come to the conclusion that it is safe or healthy to chemically block puberty? It simply blows my mind. Even if you did think a minor was qualified to submit to such therapy or surgeries, which is criminal in itself, this is simply beyond comprehension.

This is cultish behavior on display.
They are exactly what they love to accuse anyone who doesn't think like them, A CULT!
AggieMD95
How long do you want to ignore this user?
American Hardwood said:

The left is hostile to absolute truths. They need gray areas and flexibility to coerce and confuse people.

Real science deals in absolute truths. It's no wonder they have gone to great lengths to undermine it.


True.

They just try to cloak their political assertions in pseudoscientific package to neutralize dissent
AggieMD95
How long do you want to ignore this user?
TXAGFAN said:

Two thoughts:
1) Gay people and trans people have been aligned for some time because they have common enemies. That's the bottom line on that complicated relationship. Until recently with all the propaganda re: grooming, gay people were largely left alone as we've become a large voting block. Instead republicans have been chasing trans issues as they are a smaller and more complicated group - as you said there's a lot more consensus about trans people within the party.
2) I know the new narrative with big thinkers, like country music spouses, is that people are receiving gender related therapy/procedures/drugs because they're going through a tomboy phase or are a little more feminine. I'm sorry, I just don't see that happening. Are there maybe some bad actors pushing that narrative? Sure, there are all kinds of ****ty parents (drug addicts, people who disown their gay kids, abusers, etc). They sit amongst you at work, in the pews, etc. I just don't get the fire and brimstone from republicans on trans issues, it's such a small group and states focusing on it have much bigger issues. For example, MS found time to pass trans related bills in 2021, but their infrastructure is so bad they don't have water in their capital (among other things like education, infant mortality, food insecurity, etc).


I think you are naive. A lot of big money to be made to affirm rather than counsel these patients
TXAGFAN
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AggieMD95 said:

TXAGFAN said:

Two thoughts:
1) Gay people and trans people have been aligned for some time because they have common enemies. That's the bottom line on that complicated relationship. Until recently with all the propaganda re: grooming, gay people were largely left alone as we've become a large voting block. Instead republicans have been chasing trans issues as they are a smaller and more complicated group - as you said there's a lot more consensus about trans people within the party.
2) I know the new narrative with big thinkers, like country music spouses, is that people are receiving gender related therapy/procedures/drugs because they're going through a tomboy phase or are a little more feminine. I'm sorry, I just don't see that happening. Are there maybe some bad actors pushing that narrative? Sure, there are all kinds of ****ty parents (drug addicts, people who disown their gay kids, abusers, etc). They sit amongst you at work, in the pews, etc. I just don't get the fire and brimstone from republicans on trans issues, it's such a small group and states focusing on it have much bigger issues. For example, MS found time to pass trans related bills in 2021, but their infrastructure is so bad they don't have water in their capital (among other things like education, infant mortality, food insecurity, etc).


I think you are naive. A lot of big money to be made to affirm rather than counsel these patients
Sorry, I just don't see it and if there is then doctors should police their own profession. I am not in favor of legislation on medical treatment.
Last Page
Page 1 of 3
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.