ALL IN 2013 said:

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MSCAg said:

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With Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell, Trump was able to push some conservative policies. And his willingness to implement conservative policies was refreshing.

But Trump is not a good leader or executive. His staffing merry go round was chaotic. His inability to stay off Twitter or thinks before he speaks will be his biggest downfall. He dabbles in the Alex Jones type conspiracy theories.

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Wow. So now Paul ryan and Mitch McConnell are the reasons for Trumps incredible successes. Y'all are pathetic. America deserves joe biden because even the republicans are *******

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Getting to this point myself. Mitch allowed Kavanaugh and his family to get drug through the mud and shamed on national television over a complete lie because he was too scared to get #metoo. What exactly did Paul Ryan do also?

ShaggySLC said:

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ALL IN 2013 said:

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MSCAg said:

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With Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell, Trump was able to push some conservative policies. And his willingness to implement conservative policies was refreshing.

But Trump is not a good leader or executive. His staffing merry go round was chaotic. His inability to stay off Twitter or thinks before he speaks will be his biggest downfall. He dabbles in the Alex Jones type conspiracy theories.

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Wow. So now Paul ryan and Mitch McConnell are the reasons for Trumps incredible successes. Y'all are pathetic. America deserves joe biden because even the republicans are *******

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Getting to this point myself. Mitch allowed Kavanaugh and his family to get drug through the mud and shamed on national television over a complete lie because he was too scared to get #metoo. What exactly did Paul Ryan do also?

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Exactly. He names two of the biggest pu$$ies in Washington and says they're the reason for trumps success. You can see history being rewritten right before our eyes. In ten years our kids are going to be taught that Trump was a white supremacist that led an attack on January 6th and these losers on here will actually believe it. Makes me want a third party, I don't want to be associated with these people.

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All of this argument about being electable is crap. It is a farce. Trump only won because the media pumped him up because they thought he couldn't win. They were disgusted when he did.

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I disagree that's the only reason. The main reason is that Trump said what Main Street had wanted said since basically Perot, and definitely since what Obama-Biden had done. And since he did, it moved people in previously blue block places that the DNC took for granted and caught them by surprise. (I figured that out the day before the election in 2016 when you have people in the Great Lake states waiting in line in freezing cold to see Trump at 1am. That's was an indicator far more than just rallies would mean---because it was in solidly blue states. It was like 1979 Solidarity in Poland, and indeed, that is how they voted.

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Don't pretend that elections are not controlled. There is no way Desantis wins. Trump only won because they thought he was a joke candidate and they didn't manufacture enough votes to win on election night. Desantis won't win.

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They were caught by surprise in 2016. They will not be again- -- they even show signs of trying to rig the mid-term though that is beyond their reach at this moment. (Other than making sure to rig a Senate seat or two to keep it Left). However they `get the votes' whether you believe simply duped - drone/NPC like - by Gaslighters Inc (MSM) or actually do manufacture ballots or steer them (Mules) your basic point that the outcome is usually steered in Presidential appears true. Romney almost looks like a lay-down in retrospect after the second debate.

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Except Dems won't let him.

"Hey let's shut Trump up by raiding his home."

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Exactly this. The media won't let it end. Don't blame Trump.

Disagree with OP. I Want Trump front and center keeping things stirred up and taking all the bullets ( not
Real bullets/ PR bullets) for as long as possible into next spring and then have him
Announce he is endorsing Desantis for President

Gyles Marrett said:

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I voted for him in 2016. I enthusiastically voted for him in 2020. His administration was the most conservative of my lifetime. He showed republicans that you can and should fight the dem/media complex and expanded the party in ways no one believed was possible.


And I wish, now, that he would just shut up and go away.

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You want the most conservative administration of your lifetime and created one of the strongest if not the strongest economies in history who has the ability to run for another term to go away because....?

You do realize he's not creating this drama, the totalitarian FBI and left are. They want him to go away too. So you are siding with them?

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I see these MAGA cult talking points quite regularly now

mesocosm said:

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Gyles Marrett said:

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Marvin_Zindler said:

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I voted for him in 2016. I enthusiastically voted for him in 2020. His administration was the most conservative of my lifetime. He showed republicans that you can and should fight the dem/media complex and expanded the party in ways no one believed was possible.


And I wish, now, that he would just shut up and go away.

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You want the most conservative administration of your lifetime and created one of the strongest if not the strongest economies in history who has the ability to run for another term to go away because....?

You do realize he's not creating this drama, the totalitarian FBI and left are. They want him to go away too. So you are siding with them?

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I see these MAGA cult talking points quite regularly now

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Too bad you can't understand it.

Zindler - so do the commie democratic party, communist China, communist Russia and the US communist party. You are in bad company.

McConnell, is part of the commie swamp. His interest: personal power.

mesocosm said:

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Gyles Marrett said:

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Marvin_Zindler said:

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I voted for him in 2016. I enthusiastically voted for him in 2020. His administration was the most conservative of my lifetime. He showed republicans that you can and should fight the dem/media complex and expanded the party in ways no one believed was possible.


And I wish, now, that he would just shut up and go away.

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You want the most conservative administration of your lifetime and created one of the strongest if not the strongest economies in history who has the ability to run for another term to go away because....?

You do realize he's not creating this drama, the totalitarian FBI and left are. They want him to go away too. So you are siding with them?

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I see these MAGA cult talking points quite regularly now

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I love how the truth is a "MAGA cult talking point," yet dumbasses like you believed trump was a Russian asset for years. Your side is continually disproven. It's actually pretty amazing how wrong your party is time after time. Yet every single time they suck y'all right back in with the next fake news story. Covid lab leak, Covid vaccine, hunter laptop, whitmer kidnapping, Russia hoax, Ukrainian phone call, Trump raid etc. You're nothing more than a worthless sheep.

I'll say it again… if Trump is such a stupid, dumb, arrogant, horrible, terrible human being, then it should be relatively easy for the Demos or Rhinos to offer up multiple candidates far better than the Trumpster.

People "like Trump" (as described above) destroy themselves. You don't have to abuse power by spying on a Presidential campaign, destroying peoples families by trying to get them to turn-on and lie about a President, deceiving FISA judges, making a mockery of the impeachment process, allowing election laws to be manipulated for a pandemic, feigning a life or death attack on the capital, and criminalizing a civil document matter for just one former President, when all past Presidents are allowed to have classified documents in their possession.

So one has to ask… Are there no better candidates? Is it "good business" for those who desire power to keep Trump in the limelight? Is it really about Trump, or those who like the successful policies that Trump promoted and fought for?

ALL IN 2013 said:

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mesocosm said:

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Gyles Marrett said:

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Marvin_Zindler said:

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I voted for him in 2016. I enthusiastically voted for him in 2020. His administration was the most conservative of my lifetime. He showed republicans that you can and should fight the dem/media complex and expanded the party in ways no one believed was possible.


And I wish, now, that he would just shut up and go away.

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You want the most conservative administration of your lifetime and created one of the strongest if not the strongest economies in history who has the ability to run for another term to go away because....?

You do realize he's not creating this drama, the totalitarian FBI and left are. They want him to go away too. So you are siding with them?

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I see these MAGA cult talking points quite regularly now

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I love how the truth is a "MAGA cult talking point," yet dumbasses like you believed trump was a Russian asset for years. Your side is continually disproven. It's actually pretty amazing how wrong your party is time after time. Yet every single time they suck y'all right back in with the next fake news story. Covid lab leak, Covid vaccine, hunter laptop, whitmer kidnapping, Russia hoax, Ukrainian phone call, Trump raid etc. You're nothing more than a worthless sheep.

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Its always funny how Trumpians refer to anyone else as 'sheep'. There has never been a more cogent example of political sheep than those that believe everything And follow everything Trump says. Fortunately it's a group that continues to shrink. Desantis '24

BluHorseShu said:

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ALL IN 2013 said:

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mesocosm said:

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Gyles Marrett said:

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Marvin_Zindler said:

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I voted for him in 2016. I enthusiastically voted for him in 2020. His administration was the most conservative of my lifetime. He showed republicans that you can and should fight the dem/media complex and expanded the party in ways no one believed was possible.


And I wish, now, that he would just shut up and go away.

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You want the most conservative administration of your lifetime and created one of the strongest if not the strongest economies in history who has the ability to run for another term to go away because....?

You do realize he's not creating this drama, the totalitarian FBI and left are. They want him to go away too. So you are siding with them?

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I see these MAGA cult talking points quite regularly now

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I love how the truth is a "MAGA cult talking point," yet dumbasses like you believed trump was a Russian asset for years. Your side is continually disproven. It's actually pretty amazing how wrong your party is time after time. Yet every single time they suck y'all right back in with the next fake news story. Covid lab leak, Covid vaccine, hunter laptop, whitmer kidnapping, Russia hoax, Ukrainian phone call, Trump raid etc. You're nothing more than a worthless sheep.

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Its always funny how Trumpians refer to anyone else as 'sheep'. There has never been a more cogent example of political sheep than those that believe everything And follow everything Trump says. Fortunately it's a group that continues to shrink. Desantis '24

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Have you not paid attention the last 7 years? Covid maskers, vaccines, Russia hoax, kavanaugh hearings. What other word do you have for people that continually fall for fake news? I love DeSantis too by the way, not sure what supporting one of the best presidents in our nations history that has faced unprecedented and illegal attacks has to do with that.