"Without fear or favor": Hunter's lap top edition

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aggiehawg
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Garland's words from his statement about the raid on Mar a Lago are belied by the FBI's handling of the lap top.

Senators Grassley and Johnson have been hitting hard at Wray to investigate how the FBI handled it but Wray has kept ducking behind the ongoing investigation fig leaf. Johnson wrote another letter yesterday and it contained this nugget:

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After the FBI obtained the Hunter Biden laptop from the Wilmington, DE computer shop, these whistleblowers stated that local FBI leadership told employees, "you will not look at that Hunter Biden laptop" and that the FBI is "not going to change the outcome of the election again." Further, these whistleblowers allege that the FBI did not begin to examine the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop until after the 2020 presidential electionpotentially a year after the FBI obtained the laptop in December 2019. 5
Fulll letter HERE

Now in December 2019, nearly two months after it was first offered to them, the primaries hadn't even started. Biden was not yet the nominee nor was it even clear he would be with a very crowded field.

That's bad enough but the repairman involved has now written a book about the entire incident and interactions with the Delaware office of the FBI. Some interesting things there:

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It was October 8, 2019, and Isaac described his anticipation of hearing from his father after his visit to the FBI. That night, around 8 p.m., Isaac finally received a call from his father who informed him of the lack of interest from the FBI field office.

"He left the drive and the signed service order in his car's glove compartment, then walked into the FBI's field office armed with his military ID and a business card," Isaac wrote, describing his father's approach to turning over the contents found on the laptop. "He presented the ID and card to the receptionist, saying, 'Ma'am, I've never done this before. Can I speak with an agent?'"

According to Isaac, the receptionist provided his father with a form that he refused to fill out and instead wrote "sensitive" on it. Isaac said his father waited for about two minutes before the receptionist provided him with directions to a small room "divided by a thick plexiglass window and a counter." Isaac said "small items could be passed under the counter, and a microphone and speaker allowed communication between both sides of the plexiglass."

"My father sat down, and the receptionist opened a door on the other side of the plexiglass for a man holding the not-completed form," Isaac recalled. "The agent sat down across from my father and asked, 'Why did you refuse to fill out the form?'"

Describing his father's recollection of the encounter, Isaac wrote that his father told the agent that he "didn't feel comfortable putting down information" when he had no control over who would see it.
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"My father went on to explain the events and his concerns for my safety," Isaac wrote. "He mentioned that because I had seen content that was pornographic as well as geopolitically sensitive, my life could be in danger due to what people might do to make any potential public embarrassment disappear."
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Upon informing the agent that there was no immediate threat, the agent told Isaac's father, according to the book, that the agency "doesn't get involved in state matters" and that "this isn't a federal issue."
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Isaac's father told the agent that his son had "the laptop of the son of a presidential candidate" and that it "has a lot of bad stuff on it, and he needs your help," to which the agent asked whether there was child porn on the laptop.


"I don't think so," his father responded. "My son didn't go into detail. Why would you ask me that?"

"You said there was pornography," the agent answered, according to Isaac. "What else did your son see?"

"Dealing with foreign interests, a pay-for-play scheme linked to the former administration, lots of foreign money," his dad answered.
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Describing how Isaac received Biden's laptop, his father told the agent that his son owned a laptop repair shop and that it was dropped off by Hunter Biden and never picked up. Isaac said his father offered to provide the agent with a copy of the laptop's drive and a copy of the contract signed by Hunter agreeing that property left at the shop past 90 days became his property, but the agent was only interested in the contract.
The contract? Maybe its me but it sounds like the agent already knew about Hunter's proclivities, perhaps?
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"I want to see the paperwork. I don't want to touch the drive," the agent allegedly said. "Go out to your car and retrieve just the paperwork."
Sure does seem like it.
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Isaac said the agent made a copy of the paperwork and left the room for nearly 10 minutes before returning and telling his father that he should get a lawyer.

"I consulted with a regional legal officer, and he suggested you should get a lawyer," the agent said. He also told Isaac's father that he "may be in possession of something you don't own."
Lap top was left in April 2019 and this was in October 2019, well past the 90 days. So what was the issue?
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"You better lawyer up and don't talk to anyone about this," the agent added, according to Isaac. "I don't have anything else for you, and the door is on the left."

Isaac wrote that his father "sat there, disgusted, until the agent coldly reminded him where the door was."
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So the FBI threatens a citizen stepping forward with a good faith belief they have information relative to multiple federal crimes. FBI refuses to even "touch it" instead threatens them with being charged for a crime themselves?
TexAgs91
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It would be interesting (and scary I think) to take how our government actually operates and write the constitution based only on that.

Would it be recognizable?
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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TxTarpon
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We saw this with Epstein.
It seemed everyone knew what a creep he was.
No one in law enforcement seemed to care.
Friends in high places made it all ok.
Tramp96
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Rank and file agents are top notch, above the corruptions, just doing their job.

We shouldn't criticize the rank and file agents. It's only the 7th floor guys that are bad.
aggiehawg
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TexAgs91 said:

It would be interesting (and scary I think) to take how our government actually operates and write the constitution based only on that.

Would it be recognizable?
No. Be more akin to the Soviet Union's Constitution.
MouthBQ98
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They're almost blatantly trying to affect the elections this year…
aggiehawg
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Tramp96 said:

Rank and file agents are top notch, above the corruptions, just doing their job.

We shouldn't criticize the rank and file agents. It's only the 7th floor guys that are bad.
The corruption goes pretty far down if a random agent who would likely be low on the totem pole for a murky interview of a witness. It was not the upper echelon in the Delaware field office that met with him.
Definitely Not A Cop
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Doing our job would affect the election. Interesting statement.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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TexAgs91 said:

It would be interesting (and scary I think) to take how our government actually operates and write the constitution based only on that.

Would it be recognizable?


it would be like a alien language. it's shocking that we have fallen so far so fast that i often wonder if we aren't the bad guy these days.
Win At Life
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aggiehawg said:

Tramp96 said:

Rank and file agents are top notch, above the corruptions, just doing their job.

We shouldn't criticize the rank and file agents. It's only the 7th floor guys that are bad.
The corruption goes pretty far down if a random agent who would likely be low on the totem pole for a murky interview of a witness. It was not the upper echelon in the Delaware field office that met with him.


I took Tramps comment as sarcasm.
aggiehawg
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Win At Life said:

aggiehawg said:

Tramp96 said:

Rank and file agents are top notch, above the corruptions, just doing their job.

We shouldn't criticize the rank and file agents. It's only the 7th floor guys that are bad.
The corruption goes pretty far down if a random agent who would likely be low on the totem pole for a murky interview of a witness. It was not the upper echelon in the Delaware field office that met with him.


I took Tramps comment as sarcasm.
I understood that Was just reinforcing this agent would be very low on the totem pole and still was an a-hole and a bad agent.

I had have occasion to meet with FBI on several occasions. I was reporting multiple federal crimes committed by a business partner and her husband. Thought I had the case cold. But it only took the agent a few minutes to role off a long list of potential crimes in addition to the ones I had identified.

(FTR: I was no longer a practicing attorney at the time and was an owner of the businesses affected.)
UTExan
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This is why the FBI needs body cameras for every single encounter/interview, just like local police.
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rocky the dog
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
TexAgs91
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MouthBQ98 said:

They're almost blatantly trying to affect the elections this year…
FIFY
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TexAgs91
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"not going to change the outcome of the election again."

But let's politically target the most likely GOP presidential candidate for 2024

No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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rocky the dog said:


you missed at least one other doozey!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Culwell_Center_attack
Houstonag
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Wray is corrupt. A disgusting compromised person.
Tramp96
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Win At Life said:

aggiehawg said:

Tramp96 said:

Rank and file agents are top notch, above the corruptions, just doing their job.

We shouldn't criticize the rank and file agents. It's only the 7th floor guys that are bad.
The corruption goes pretty far down if a random agent who would likely be low on the totem pole for a murky interview of a witness. It was not the upper echelon in the Delaware field office that met with him.


I took Tramps comment as sarcasm.
Correct.

I'm as pro law enforcement as anyone, but I'm sorry, I can no longer trust anyone in the FBI. This narrative that we need to still support the rank and file agents because they are still legit and good just doesn't hold water.

AGHouston11
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50 intelligence experts signed stating before the election the laptop was Russian disinformation………….

Where did they get fed that BS to actually know to state that …….. What government officials…..

What a huge coordinated effort all the way to include big tech censorship and false msm reporting!
Manhattan
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Rudy had a copy of the laptop before the election, if there was child porn, the Trump campaign would have rolled with that. There are videos of Hunter smoking crack, nobody cares.
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