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If you can fraudulently submit a ballot(s) what makes you think that fraudulently requesting ballot(s) is difficult especially when you have ALL of the right data to do so?

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Exactly. And the state wide voter rolls pollpads were stolen in August-September 2019. When a pollpad wouldn't boot up at a polling station in Georgia on election day, an ACLU "observer" pulled that database up on her personal laptop. Where the helll did she get it?

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In 2020 Runbeck Election Services handled the mail in ballots for Fulton County, Georgia. They had the voter rolls. They could print up as many ballots as they wanted and no doubt did. Get those to Abrams' outfits and let the mules do the rest.

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I was an absentee voter in Georgia. You have to request a ballot from the SOS. You can check the status of your request in the online database. You can see if they sent you a ballot and you can see if your ballot was accepted by the SOS. They have a record of who requested ballots. Runbeck printing up ballot for those who didn't request them would be caught by the system. That company would be bankrupt right now and their employees would be in jail.

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If you can fraudulently submit a ballot(s) what makes you think that fraudulently requesting ballot(s) is difficult especially when you have ALL of the right data to do so?

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so they request a ballot for someone and steal it out of that person's mailbox?

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So what's the plan? What can / should us average citizens do?

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If the actions of a few alphabet agencies in very recent times is any indicator, there currently appears nothing legal to do except pray for God's correction. They are convinced they have this wrapped up again and will control any narrative and or justice including the lack thereof but God Bless those who are making the sacrifice to do so.

You can buy voter rolls. The whole state of Georgia only costs $250.00

https://georgiasecretaryofstate.net/collections/voter-list-1

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In 2020 Runbeck Election Services handled the mail in ballots for Fulton County, Georgia. They had the voter rolls. They could print up as many ballots as they wanted and no doubt did. Get those to Abrams' outfits and let the mules do the rest.

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I was an absentee voter in Georgia. You have to request a ballot from the SOS. You can check the status of your request in the online database. You can see if they sent you a ballot and you can see if your ballot was accepted by the SOS. They have a record of who requested ballots. Runbeck printing up ballot for those who didn't request them would be caught by the system. That company would be bankrupt right now and their employees would be in jail.

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If you can fraudulently submit a ballot(s) what makes you think that fraudulently requesting ballot(s) is difficult especially when you have ALL of the right data to do so?

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so they request a ballot for someone and steal it out of that person's mailbox?

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Great question and yes that is one possibility, did occur, but takes a lot of effort for small quantities. Though small quantities ADD up. Videos in GA show multiple mules dropping off harvested ballots multiple times.

I think there are more efficient ways. IE this block of 100 folks requested a ballot, the ballot was never mailed or it was shown to be mailed (easy hack), but printed, filled out, and held for need or discarded at a few key locations in mass to be delivered by the thousands. IE the suitcase under the table that were pulled out and ran after everybody left.

The variety of fraud has at least three purposes: every vote matters, the randomness of the fraud types allows one to argue well its never enough to swing an election and caused general doubt/chaos, and three a few getting busted allows that enforcement/justice block to get checked so we can get onto the next election showing that somebody cared.

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I have no idea. States use 3rd party vendors for all kinds of things. I agree it needs to be thoroughly vetted and investigated.

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You have no idea whether you want clean voter rolls?

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I have no idea. States use 3rd party vendors for all kinds of things. I agree it needs to be thoroughly vetted and investigated.

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You have no idea whether you want clean voter rolls?

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So do you agree that the current ERIC and CEIR system with the states has failed to make the voter rolls cleaner and the states should take that task over themselves?

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Englebrecht then elaborated on the five things ordinary people can do to help put candidates and political parties in a position to prevail in court when they contest funky elections.

1: Sign up to serve.

Englebrecht says it's crucial for more Republican voters to get their eyes and hands on the process. There currently isn't parity of party among election workers, and that needs to be addressed.
One way to get involved is to be a poll watcher. This is a great way to observe the process and get your feet wet if you haven't worked an election before. To sign up, reach out to the party or candidate of your choice. States allow candidates to appoint a number of poll watchers in every precinct.
Another option is to be a poll worker. Interested? Go to TrueTheVote.org and click on My State. As a poll worker, you will work for the county and will usually be paid a stipend. Different positions are available. If there are unfilled positions, the county will plug in random people from its list. If there aren't enough volunteers, polling stations will be closed and voters sent to another one.

The ostensible goal of staffing the polls is to have parity of party; the ideal is to have an equal number of Democrat and Republican poll workers. But the truth is that Republicans are usually under-represented.
Englebrecht warned that it's seldom simple to sign up for poll work, and you should go into it prepared to follow up a lot. Become a squeaky wheel and keep pushing until you get a spot. In some cases, your political party can help get you on a list. Once you're in, the county will train you.

Don't be worried that you're not capable or good enough. The country needs people to work elections. If not you, then who?

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2: Watch the drop boxes.
If your state has dropboxes, make sure you understand how they will be monitored. First, check online for information, then follow up with election administrators. Open a records request.

When TTV tried to contest certifications in 2020 because of dropbox abuse, the organization found that the surveillance video was either non-existent or useless. So you can be helpful by checking that your county surveillance cameras are close enough to the dropboxes, properly aimed, and focused.

Englebrecht mentioned a county sheriff who contacted election administrators and had them stream the surveillance cameras to his office so sheriffs could help officials monitor dropboxes. She called the idea "brilliant" and recommended it to local law enforcement.

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3: Give 22-month notice.
Pre-notify your election administrators that any auditable item is required by federal law to be held for at least 22 months following an election. This includes all voter documentation, surveillance video, chain-of-custody documentation, etc.

Englebrecht stressed that her organization needs good, clean records, which they did not have in 2020. "Substantial compliance [with election laws] is not compliance," she explained. "If you don't follow the law, you cannot certify the election." When you put officials on notice that they are expected to maintain proper documentation, it keeps them from being able to say they didn't know they had to afterward.

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4: Confirm the elector set.

Federal laws dictate that each state must have a fixed set of electors (also called the voter roll) who are eligible to participate ahead of the election. This record should be confirmed, accurate, and viewable prior to voting. Pre-notify your state officials that this is required, and ask for a copy.

After the election, you can then say, "This was the auditable set that went into the election. Did these electors cast a vote? And where did the extra votes come from?"

When TTV compared the 2020 votes cast records from the voter rolls to the tallies the counties provided to the states, there were gaps. "There shouldn't be. They should be a perfect match," explains Engelbrecht. She said most state records reconciled to within a fraction of a percent to 1%, but some states were way out of balance.

States that can't reconcile their numbers make excuses, warned Englebrecht. But she said the correct response is, "No. If the numbers don't match, you don't certify."

How can we prevent the certification of substandard results from happening again in 2022? "Eyes on the process," Englebrecht asserted. "As the votes are being counted, these numbers should be able to be reconciled" and we should be watching this closely.

Englebrecht noted that states with same-day registration will have an additional voter set, but that should also be reconcilable. "If it doesn't reconcile, if counties don't have their votes in, if states can't tell you who voted, you can't certify it," she emphasized.

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5: See something? Say something!
Prepare ahead of time by finding out who in your network you can reach out to if you see something fishy. Know what to do. Have numbers handy. States have an 800 number for reporting, and secretaries of state usually do, too. But they're not likely to be responsive quickly. Have local contacts on speed dial.
Engelbrecht said watchers can also call True the Vote's Election Integrity Hotline (855) 585-2022. Or better yet, fill out an incident report at their website. They will forward all actionable reports to local law enforcement immediately. The 2022 TTV tipline goes live in late September.

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Let's bump this since so many here were not paying attention the first time.

Come on, ag alaska, respond and let's discuss.

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Come on, ag alaska, respond and let's discuss.

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Come on. I am waiting. Do it. Tell me how you know anything about elections.

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But we can still vote our way out of this mess right?

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The problem is that the party we would vote for (republicans) won't do anything about it.