https://academic.oup.com/ej/article-abstract/130/627/716/5715606?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false

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We study the effect of likeability on women's and men's team behaviour in a lab experiment. Extending a two-player public goods game and a minimum effort game by an additional pre-play stage that informs team members about their mutual likeability, we find that female teams lower their contribution to the public good in the event of low likeability, while male teams achieve high levels of co-operation irrespective of the level of mutual likeability. In mixed-sex teams, both women's and men's contributions depend on mutual likeability. Similar results are found in the minimum effort game. Our results offer a new perspective on gender differences in labour market outcomes: mutual dislikeability impedes team behaviour, except in all-male teams.

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This explains so much of modern team building efforts. Back when work environments were almost entirely men, you didn't need to do any of this. Even then, team building was far better anyway because the men generally did hang out and go to the bar or cigar room and tended to be friends outside of work.

Turns out introduce women causes likeability to become an issue in the office and if the women don't like each other people then their productivity drops while it has no effect upon men at all.

Women are balls of hate/emotion

There can be zero or only 1 women in the office or it screws everything else up.

In my experience, females can't get along with each other in the office. I know many that hate working for a female boss and would rather work for a male boss.

I guess this explains public schools.

Simple Jack said:

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In my experience, females can't get along with each other in the office. I know many that hate working for a female boss and would rather work for a male boss.

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Yeah, we have one female manager on our team and all the women hate her. Funny thing is - she really is a good manager as she grew up in the male dominated engineering field and is more of a hard ass than most of the male mangers.

It's the female subordinates who are the problem since they can't handle a woman like her - non-emotional, organizes, and fact driven.

Women have been in the workforce now for years, for the better, and that's not changing. If you don't like it, you and the rest of your 1776 Restoration Movement friends can go find an island somewhere and start your own society.

Men can compartmentalize. Women cannot. Lower performance from one person (for whatever the reason) has a negative impact on all in the team.

Research grant please!

For anyone that has ever worked in corporate and in leadership, this is almost a water is wet study. To be fair, there are bad apples in both genders.

However, when it comes to outright systemic dysfunction at scale then nothing beats a woman in the workplace.

dmart90 said:

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Women have been in the workforce now for years, for the better, and that's not changing. If you don't like it, you and the rest of your 1776 Restoration Movement friends can go find an island somewhere and start your own society.

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This reminds me of that feminist who hired an all female workforce and then her company imploded from the drama and backstabbing to such an extent that all work stopped. She had to shut down her company at that point.

This is why corporations pay women 78 cents on the dollar.

dmart90 said:

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Women have been in the workforce now for years, for the better, and that's not changing. If you don't like it, you and the rest of your 1776 Restoration Movement friends can go find an island somewhere and start your own society.

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I don't think they're arguing against it except in jest but there is value in understanding sources of potential problems and therefore how to deal with them better. It turns out with females, you have to be more careful in how teams are selected and built or you will risk an above normal degree of non-cooperation.

Martin Q. Blank said:

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I guess this explains public schools.

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Yep. My wife's school has more drama in one day that I do as engineer in an entire year. It sounds absolutely miserable.

dmart90 said:

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Women have been in the workforce now for years, for the better, and that's not changing. If you don't like it, you and the rest of your 1776 Restoration Movement friends can go find an island somewhere and start your own society.

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Calm down

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dmart90 said:

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Women have been in the workforce now for years, for the better, and that's not changing. If you don't like it, you and the rest of your 1776 Restoration Movement friends can go find an island somewhere and start your own society.

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This reminds me of that feminist who hired an all female workforce and then her company imploded from the drama and backstabbing to such an extent that all work stopped. She had to shut down her company at that point.

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Lol. Wrong. I hire the most qualified person and person best fit for the job. Gender and color of skin don't enter into the equation.

Is this really a surprise? They needed a study to find this?

This is human behavior that probably goes back to cavemen. I've continued to work with guys that I've cussed out and nearly had fist fights with. Woman shun and backstab Co workers that wear a lipstick or dress they don't like.

Geez, don't get your panties in a wad. No one is saying send them back home.

MouthBQ98 said:

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dmart90 said:

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Women have been in the workforce now for years, for the better, and that's not changing. If you don't like it, you and the rest of your 1776 Restoration Movement friends can go find an island somewhere and start your own society.

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I don't think they're arguing against it except in jest but there is value in understanding sources of potential problems and therefore how to deal with them better. It turns out with females, you have to be more careful in how teams are selected and built or you will risk an above normal degree of non-cooperation.

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In distributions, most males are thing (task) oriented, and most females are people (feelings) oriented. It's just how personally traits tend statistically. They are roughly normal distributions and there is overlap but females are more likely to be concerned about the opinions and feelings of team members while males will tend to be task oriented and care less about team feelings than the thing that is being done. It's quite literally biological tendencies that makes males and females good compliments in large groups but also specialists in certain functional roles.

I myself am typical of this distribution. That's why I do network design, and don't work in HR because it does not interest me at all and I would be bad at it.

FarmerJohn said:

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Men can compartmentalize. Women cannot. Lower performance from one person (for whatever the reason) has a negative impact on all in the team.

Research grant please!

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This. It's the fundamental difference between the sexes.

Men can fight like dogs, then have a beer.

Women tend to never forget a slight and hang on to it forever.

dmart90 said:

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dmart90 said:

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Women have been in the workforce now for years, for the better, and that's not changing. If you don't like it, you and the rest of your 1776 Restoration Movement friends can go find an island somewhere and start your own society.

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This reminds me of that feminist who hired an all female workforce and then her company imploded from the drama and backstabbing to such an extent that all work stopped. She had to shut down her company at that point.

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Lol. Wrong. I hire the most qualified person and person best fit for the job. Gender and color of skin don't enter into the equation.

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I think you just proved his point then

dmart90 said:

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Women have been in the workforce now for years, for the better, and that's not changing. If you don't like it, you and the rest of your 1776 Restoration Movement friends can go find an island somewhere and start your own society.

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Lol, quit being obtuse. This isn't about "Women need to be in the kitchen making me a sammich!" It's simply pointing out the differences between men and women in a work environment and hopefully that leads to finding ways for better outcomes.

Men and women are different no matter how much liberals try to pretend they are not. Both have strengths the other does not and both have weaknesses the other does not. Also if you take 10 men and 10 women you will usually find 2 of the men have characteristics that are more feminine and 2 of the women that are more masculine. The problem is we pretend the exceptions are the rule.

One of the biggest problems we have in society is the idea of quotas or going out of our way to promote or encourage people of a certain gender or race to study something or engage in an activity or be promoted. Simply make the playing field even in terms of qualifications and let the chips fall where they may instead of trying to create an outcome that makes you feel better. In the long run you end up with a much happier and productive society.

The more specific point of this article though is essentially that men are much more capable of putting feelings aside and working with people they dislike. Men may get angry but they get over it quickly and move on. That's extremely rare for women. They are hardwired towards social interaction and feelings, it's very hard for them to overlook a slight and they tend to have a long memory. They also tend to be more judgemental of other women. So there are a lot of challenges in building the most productive team with women if you don't make accommodations for their feelings.

Can we just get rid of the word "gender". What we're talking about here is "sex".

Then entire "gender" concept just foments the whole "identifies as" (i.e. pretends to be).

The traits that make a good hunter or farmer, and thus got passed down by successful men, are different from those which make a successful gatherer or mother.

A man finds a dominance hierarchy (rooted in competence) and climbs it. Distractions and drama get ignored for the benefit of achieving the goal. Working in silence and cooperation with folks you may not like is important.

A woman needs to know where the villages resources are, and figure out how to position herself to get at others' if things fall apart. Alliances, cunning, plotting, assessing what others have, talking - the 'most fit' or 'most adaptable' prevailed.

It shouldn't be surprising that these ancient characteristics influence modern office behavior.

dmart90 said:

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dmart90 said:

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Women have been in the workforce now for years, for the better, and that's not changing. If you don't like it, you and the rest of your 1776 Restoration Movement friends can go find an island somewhere and start your own society.

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This reminds me of that feminist who hired an all female workforce and then her company imploded from the drama and backstabbing to such an extent that all work stopped. She had to shut down her company at that point.

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Lol. Wrong. I hire the most qualified person and person best fit for the job. Gender and color of skin don't enter into the equation.

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As do I. Numbers wise I think I've hired more women than men in my career and that's within a male dominated industry on top of it.

It doesn't change the reality of biology though. The straight up Machiavellian **** I've witnessed by women and been drug into to resolve would leave George RR Martin aghast.

YouBet said:

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dmart90 said:

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dmart90 said:

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Women have been in the workforce now for years, for the better, and that's not changing. If you don't like it, you and the rest of your 1776 Restoration Movement friends can go find an island somewhere and start your own society.

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This reminds me of that feminist who hired an all female workforce and then her company imploded from the drama and backstabbing to such an extent that all work stopped. She had to shut down her company at that point.

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Lol. Wrong. I hire the most qualified person and person best fit for the job. Gender and color of skin don't enter into the equation.

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As do I. Numbers wise I think I've hired more women than men in my career and that's within a male dominated industry on top of it.

It doesn't change the reality of biology though. The straight up Machiavellian **** I've witnessed by women and been drug into to resolve would leave George RR Martin aghast.

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If you think about it you see it play out in the HRC vindictiveness. Bill would never have spent such effort over so long a time in the schemes vs Trump.

I worked for a man that was retired Marine Pilot. He had 10 years of engineering experience after retirement. I asked him why he sat in a cubicle.

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"When you are the boss women cry to you a lot about how someone was mean to them. They come crying to me less when I am in a cubicle in the middle of the office."

This is a 'trap' question, right?

You a cop?

evestor1 said:

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I worked for a man that was retired Marine Pilot. He had 10 years of engineering experience after retirement. I asked him why he sat in a cubicle.

His answer:
"When you are the boss women cry to you a lot about how someone was mean to them. They come crying to me less when I am in a cubicle in the middle of the office."

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Former boss and also partner in the company said women cry easily, and much more drama surrounding them than men. He told me they actively try not to seat them too close to each other because they became less productive. This is a primarily male engineering offices

titan said:

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YouBet said:

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dmart90 said:

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dmart90 said:

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Women have been in the workforce now for years, for the better, and that's not changing. If you don't like it, you and the rest of your 1776 Restoration Movement friends can go find an island somewhere and start your own society.

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This reminds me of that feminist who hired an all female workforce and then her company imploded from the drama and backstabbing to such an extent that all work stopped. She had to shut down her company at that point.

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Lol. Wrong. I hire the most qualified person and person best fit for the job. Gender and color of skin don't enter into the equation.

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As do I. Numbers wise I think I've hired more women than men in my career and that's within a male dominated industry on top of it.

It doesn't change the reality of biology though. The straight up Machiavellian **** I've witnessed by women and been drug into to resolve would leave George RR Martin aghast.

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If you think about it you see it play out in the HRC vindictiveness. Bill would never have spent such effort over so long a time in the schemes vs Trump.

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Ha. Good point. There is no way he would have done that. Not that this is necessarily a good thing either considering our deep state politics, but all you have to do is look at the former Presidents club. All guys who were at each others throats in the trenches and once it was over they are all buddies and hang out. Classic male biology.

Tangent: He was the only one with any sense in her entire campaign and that's because he was a dude from the sane era of politics despite his leanings. Remember him on the sidelines telling her campaign they were going to lose because they were focused on all of the wrong stuff and wrong geographies? She would have been President if she had listened to him.

Yep
"Mean girls club" happens from elementary school to the nursing home.
Crazy stuff.

Men snort, sniff, scratch, establish the pecking order and all good.

I hated the fight over the AC thermostat.

how to put this.

I have noticed that my company's customer service team, all female, takes better care of the good looking sales guys than they do the ugly ones.

No data to back that up but it really looks like that is the case to me.

cecil77 said:

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FarmerJohn said:

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Men can compartmentalize. Women cannot. Lower performance from one person (for whatever the reason) has a negative impact on all in the team.

Research grant please!

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This. It's the fundamental difference between the sexes.

Men can fight like dogs, then have a beer.

Women tend to never forget a slight and hang on to it forever.

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Blanket absolutes never work. I have worked with some men who are the biggest babies you would ever come across and some women who were ice queens. It depends. Hire the best person regardless of race and gender and the team is high performing.

I do agree with the general point and I think it is sports driven when kids are young. Sports teach roles, responsibilities, being a good teammate, when to lead and when to follow, all under a very pronounced hierarchy. The most successful women leaders I have come across, all played sports at the college level. Therefore, they are used to feedback regardless of delivery as a way to improve.

It is for this reason, my daughters are required to play a team sport. Don't care which one, but I don't think they will be equipped to compete and contribute in the work place without it.

dmart90 said:

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Women have been in the workforce now for years, for the better, and that's not changing. If you don't like it, you and the rest of your 1776 Restoration Movement friends can go find an island somewhere and start your own society.

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white knight's make me sick

Henry Higgins nailed it.